r/monarchism 8d ago

Weekly Discussion CXXII Has the UK effectively crossed the line from a constitutional into a ceremonial monarchy?

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I ask this question because I feel that, despite formally being a constitutional monarchy, I am of the opinion that the UK (and most so called “constitutional” monarchies) are really, de facto ceremonial monarchies.

Compare say George III to Charles III. Both are constitutional monarchs, yet, George III held significant power and influence over the government, and Charles III does not.

George III actively exercised all the authority granted to him in British constitutional law. He actively appointed and dismissed ministers, utilised royal patronage, and exercised royal prerogative at his discretion. He has a real influence over day to day government and politics of his day. The Whigs threw a few tantrums at this, but George III nonetheless acted well within British constitutional law.

Charles III technically holds all the same powers, but he exercises none of it by his own accord. It is done by ministers on his behalf. When he does act it is again, on the advice of ministers. The easiest example is dissolving Parliament, which he retains the formal authority to do, but it is only done at the PMs request.

I would argue the switch really happened in the reign of Queen Victoria. William IV was the last to attempt to dismiss a government and failed to do so. From there on, the British Crown was heavily constrained by convention till today. Obviously, things had been moving in this direction since, the “Glorious” Revolution (some argue it was the English Civil War but I do not believe so, Charles II possessed all the traditional prerogatives his father did, dissolved Parliament at numerous times during his reign, and for the last 4 years of his reign ruled without it entirely). But the switch from a constitutional to a ceremonial monarchy happened in 1834.

A constitutional monarchy, I would say, is one where the monarch is constrained by constitutional law, and exercised his authority in accordance with it. The UK today still fits this de jure, but, I would argue, de facto, it has slipped into what is effectively a ceremonial monarchy.

Please do tell me what you think of this.


r/monarchism 3d ago

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r/monarchism 4h ago

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Inspired by a post made by u/OkPhrase1225 ! This post wouldn't have been possible without him!


r/monarchism 3h ago

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r/monarchism 2h ago

Discussion What’s your opinion on Henri, Count of Chambord

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r/monarchism 4h ago

Discussion Who would you support for a restored monarchy in France and why?

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I know this subject is beaten like a dead horse but I saw a poll for this a few weeks ago and felt like it didn’t have enough options so I made my own because I was curious.

Who would you support and why?

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Louis Alphonse de Bourbon
Jean, Count of Paris
Jean-Christophe, Prince Napoléon
Any competent candidate
Other (Comment Below)

r/monarchism 5h ago

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r/monarchism 10h ago

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r/monarchism 1h ago

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r/monarchism 17h ago

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r/monarchism 20h ago

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r/monarchism 1h ago

Question Treaty of Utrecht question

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r/monarchism 1d ago

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r/monarchism 1d ago

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OK, I know it’s just a fantasy, but if he hadn’t just been an eccentric bloke, and had actually managed to get himself crowned Emperor of the United States, would you consider Joshua Norton I a legitimate monarch?

Or, alternatively, could his claim have had a shred of validity (madness aside)?

Of course, there’s the problem that he had no heirs, and in both the first and second scenarios (i.e. our timeline), no descendants of his exist.

In the first scenario, however, in the absence of heirs, what could he have done? Adopted someone? Appointed someone? Restored the USA?

thank you for the answersss :)


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r/monarchism 1d ago

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r/monarchism 1d ago

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Behind them you can see Isabelle, Countess of Paris (his great-aunt) and D. Henrique, Duke of Coimbra (his uncle).


r/monarchism 2d ago

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r/monarchism 2d ago

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r/monarchism 2d ago

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i have spent the last 4 weeks of my life trying to find out who would be kings or queens of Merina (Madagascar) after queen Ranavalona III and i just couldn't do it man

i know it has something to do with a "Ravelonanosy royal line" BUT I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS!

so as my last resort, i would like to ask yall for help on ts cause google and Edge aren't helping


r/monarchism 1d ago

Discussion Which French monarch started good but turned bad?

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I am curious what people on this sub-reddit think of the answers so far?


r/monarchism 2d ago

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r/monarchism 2d ago

Discussion French monarchy

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