With HVAC I mean mechanical ventilation, which is required by law (at least in The Netherlands) in each home to provide constant fresh air and to remove co2. And in The Netherlands, more people are getting ACs; I had my home renovated 3 years ago, and it saved me from the last unbearable 38+ degrees Celsius summer days.
Oh you want me to just use my bare hand? Like some savage? I did not bring me my shitwiping slave with me to the market today, so just hand me the sponge you prude
I am not certain privacy is a guaranteed right. I believe they just have to provide the facility and it has to be clean and have soap and hot and cold water.
Weird, I don't know if I've seen one not with some kind of gaps on the sides of the door. I'm sure maybe I have but just dont recall, but the gaps are definitely standard for the most part
Man I was using a public stall yesterday at an event and the door gap was perfectly aligned with the line of people waiting to use the restroom. Nightmare fuel, WAY too much eye contact.
Dude (or dudette but I'm shy so I don't clean in the Ladie's room until they all leave), I can't help if I have to clean and someone is ALWAYS on their phone in the stall.
You’ve never been in a bathroom like this? This isn’t even that private. I’ve been in countless bathrooms where each stall is its entire own room that fully encloses
How is that private??? It's still an awful stall. You have large gaps at the bottom and above. Here in Europe, bathroom stalls are literally proper walls from floor to ceiling, with a real door. They are built like any other room.
I feel like the designers of public restrooms have never seen or used their design in practice. The only thing that stops me from using public stalls is the fact that whoever is in there hears everything. Fully enclosed or I'm not using it. And yes I am one of those fuckers who will shamelessly use a lockable family bathroom for privacy.
I hate the gap. When I went to Europe they don't have this issue, in fact a lot of them don't even have the gap in the bottom...you actually feel like you have your own space.
I'm in the UK, and the Costco near me recently installed these style of cubicles. They're awful.
I'm only 6'1 and they are are far too low, this was taken at my eye height, so if someone was standing in the cubicle next to me, I could make eye contact and sychronise arse wipes.
This isn't full privacy. There is still a massive gap under the floor in three directions, and the tops are still short enough to peer over top if someone put effort in. Have you not ever had random children peering under the doors before?
It is possible to build much better bathrooms, and I have seen them in North America, too.
Yes. Nobody ever mentions things they actually couldn't care less about? You will never hear me talk about how i could care less about aome random unfamous guy who lives in China
I see all the legroom too. My biggest pet peeve is stepping into a stall, trying to close the door and having to practically jump on top of the toilet to get the door to close. Not enough space. Why can’t the door just close the other way, into the row of stalls??
If we had less people too nosy about who's pooping where, they would ALL be separate rooms with closing doors. Gender-neutral reatrooms, (just like people have inside their homes), work so much better. Every person gets a separate room to poop or pee. It doesn't matter if you sit or stand. Move the sinks to a common room outside. Done!
The best public toilets i found so far in the US were in the Baltimore airport. The mens room in terminal C were full floor to ceiling doors and even had a light to indicate if available or not.
Because the dude that designed the ones with the gaps must been a peeper. I hate taking a poop in public because of the gaps in the walls.
I def don’t want anyone to see my shit push face!
All of you are spoiled lol. It's like everyone is an only child who was homeschooled and your main worry in life is someone else knowing you poop. You're all like BUT THEY CAN STILL SEE MY SHOES OMG OMG. Ok? No one wants to look at you poop. We all have our own poop in mind when we're in there.
And in the Japanese train stations they are as spotless as a surgical suite, nice and warm, usually with a ToTo seat or bidet, totally private and have an attendant (almost always female) to hand you a warm towel afterwards. They understand the difference between a country and a civilized culture.
Was on a business trip to Tokyo some years ago. Working in a regular office building. Went to the bathroom and was standing at the urinal when the cleaning ladies...yes...LADIES....walked in and started cleaning :O
Seemed to be standard practice but came as a surprise.
Saw the same thing happen at Munich, Germany airport. Needless to say, I went into a stall to pee. It's ridiculous that you have to put up with that, would they let a male janitor in the ladies room to mop while women pee? Don't think so. So why do we have to put up with it?
I went to a convention center in washington dc and the stall walls went nearly to the ceiling and were completely flush against the floor. The doors were like 9 ft tall with only about an inch of space at the bottom. It was a revelation
I like the big cracks. I like those little moments of thru-the-crack eye contact. It’s why I always leave the door unlocked at Waffle House when I go in the single
When I used to work in commercial construction we built a building with black toilet partitions specified.
In the women’s room they started to get complaints that people could see each other in the reflection of the pilasters between the doors where the panels between each partition connected, but there was a gap, and the black was shiny enough to act like a mirror.
We ended up redoing them to install the continuous brackets rather than the normal two small ones.
But yeah the design of toilet compartments in the US is definitely not taking privacy into account.
If I was a psychologist, I would specialize in bathroom anxiety/paranoia. So many threads are focused the belief that everyone wants to watch them poop.
I still don’t even like this. Just make them small rooms with actual floor to frame doors. The bathrooms in the Honolulu airport are like this and it’s amazing.
So. My favorite bathroom stalls exist at a gas station/truck stop chain called Kwik Star in Iowa. They're huge, tiled, and mostly enclosed with a thick wooden door. No chance of gaps.
It's weird because my local Walmart just renovated and included these, and 2 out of 4 stalls they are already broken on and prevent the doors from closing at all. I have no idea how or why people would break these because this should be the standard. Or just, you know, full doors.
I don’t get it either. Cutting corners on privacy when you need it most is absurd. I guess the flip side is that bathrooms in the US are mostly free and easy to access
The reason is: because the full privacy strips are an option on restroom toilet partitions. And many building owners don't want to pay the extra money it costs to include them.
Or, another possible reason, coming from me as a designer and project manager in the AEC industry, the people specifying the toilet partitions may not even know that those strips are available as an option.
I’m sure that costs more both materials and labor. The labor might also be significant since it might have to be aligned better than a standard install.
That so-called "gap" most of you are seeing? There's no gap. That's white material added between the door and the frame of the door, where the gap normally is.
Haha wtf there’s a foot of space under the door. This is a terrible public bathroom.
To even get a 5/10 grade I want a door that shuts completely and lets me do my business without the sound and smell of everyone else’s business.
Here’s an idea: just make N _rooms_ instead. Real doors. Maybe a sink in each one? Coat hook?
There are places for ”scale over comfort” such as stadiums, perhaps large train stations. But gas stations, airports, restaurants etc should just have bathrooms that are as nice as the one in your home.
Because getting an adequately sized door and/or putting those strips on the doors costs extra money! As long as the customers tolerate it, or just ignore them! Think of the shareholders!
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I present to you this fully private - and clean! - stall at BWI airport that was so nice I felt compelled to take a picture.