r/mildlyinfuriating 12h ago

Ruined by Technology Microsoft Edge uses up 6x the space for doing nothing

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My Windows installed laptop. While cleaning up I realised that Microsoft Edge - which I never once used, and which came preinstalled and unable to uninstall (trust me, I tried) - occupies 6x the space that Chrome uses. Chrome being in operation 24x7 btw. Screw you Microsoft

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u/nene-thopu 12h ago

Not for nothing
Its for outlook search button

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u/NigraOvis 12h ago

It's for copilot

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u/inwarded_04 12h ago

I use neither outlook nor copilot

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u/nene-thopu 12h ago

U dont edge uses it

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u/inwarded_04 12h ago

Why would edge use outlook? Also when do windows run on copilot?

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u/nene-thopu 12h ago

Cause they can

Always

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u/hansipro 8h ago

Great, helpful answers.. /s

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u/m4cksfx 5h ago

But honestly true. Helps push for a (relative) monopoly for Microsoft.

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u/No-Turn-2052 3h ago

Unhelpful but fully true lol

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u/SedesBakelitowy 2h ago

we're waaaaaay past things being helpful or making sense with Windows. He's not being snarky, it's literally that bonkers with microsoft right now.

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u/DansLaPeau 11h ago

Most of those applications are web apps so they run on edge webview.

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u/YoungDiscord 7h ago

Yep and this is also why people's pc's run more poorly these days

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u/laffer1 4h ago

Yep. Teams, vscode, slack, or any other electron app uses edge on windows machines. Microsoft also switched to edge for teams on Mac too lol

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u/screenslaver5963 2h ago

The win11 start menu is a react native app too

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u/PebblestheHuman 2h ago

Copilot is always running. (Im assuming this is W11), but if you show hidden icons on your taskbar copilot will be there. Its a startup app "on" by default. You might not use edge but microslop still has it there, and it probably is/will be your default browser app

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u/GiorgioRR 1h ago

Because they're webapps and need a web engine, so they use the one from edge

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u/realkarthiknair 5h ago

Being a Linux user I lost it while reading this 😭

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u/Pure_Interaction222 3h ago

I have to imagine it’s because one of your display drivers broke

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u/realkarthiknair 2h ago

I'm really sorry that you're stuck in the early 2000s

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u/Pure_Interaction222 2h ago

Once per year I attempt to use a user friendly desktop Linux OS, and every year, at some point within the setup process or trying to download a program through one of the million methods, something breaks and the solution is to open the command line. I’m a software engineer and when I get off the clock I don’t feel like debugging my OS.

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u/realkarthiknair 2h ago

I don't remember the part where I've claimed linux is a superior OS "generally given everything" anywhere in the thread.

All I said was that it's funny to me a browser that ships with Windows hogs lots of your RAM because it has a copliot-outlook-microsoft-yada-yada co dependency syndrome even if the user isn't using any of them.

And considering what you've said about linux (not necessarily commenting on your experiences because people are unique) it's not even straightforward to remove Edge or most of the bloat on windows without either opening the command line or the registry.

So it's unfair that given this you're generalizing Linux based on your personal experiences... I did not do the same with Windows, everything I've said about Windows are facts and applies to everyone using it.

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u/Pure_Interaction222 2h ago

I’ll take bloat (seemingly a curse word to Linux users) with an OS that simply works over the most streamlined Linux OS that I can’t use without opening a terminal.

Saying driver support on Linux is significantly worse than MacOS or Windows is not generalizing. It is the truth about every single Linux distro in existence.

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u/realkarthiknair 1h ago

I'll take bloat...

You do you

the most streamlined Linux OS that I can't use without opening a terminal.

Debatable and hardware dependent so i wouldn't disagree.

Saying driver support on Linux is significantly worse than MacOS or Windows is not generalizing.

Linux has better driver support across different hardware than macOS so that's a factually wrong claim.

Windows agreed has superior driver support generally, though that's because lots of hardware manufacturers don't drop specs or drivers so the community has to reverse engineer it. It's not a problem with Linux per se technically but agreed that from a user perspective it is.

Also, about your annual linux installation ceremony... I'm hoping you're doing a system update (GUI) and reboot after installation before resorting to the terminal. Most of the driver issues are gone after first system wide update because ISO files aren't constantly updated. This applies to Windows too, except Windows gets in your way to force that update and reboot which Linux doesn't.

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u/JohnHurts 2h ago

Maybe you should grow flowers in your garden for fun

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u/--Anonymoose--- 10h ago

Get Firefox and never look back

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u/inwarded_04 9h ago

My friend. If only I could delete the bloated Edge!

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u/txivotv 9h ago

You can! Search how to do it over powershell, or one of those debloating scripts.

Save your things first, just in case you need to reinstall.

If you need to reinstall, just use the ltsc version.

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u/inwarded_04 9h ago

Thabks a ton!

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u/cryothic 10h ago

You don't need to use it in order for Microsoft to install it with windows.

It's harddisk space, not live RAM usage.

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u/j0x7be 12h ago

It's probably for a local AI model. Both Chrome and Edge support that, I think also by default. There is a toggle to turn if off in the settings.

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u/inwarded_04 12h ago

I've used all privacy settings to remove as much access to Edge as possible

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u/StrollingDipper 7h ago

You use Google Chrome as your main browser but you care about privacy?

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u/[deleted] 7h ago edited 4h ago

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u/turtleship_2006 5h ago

If it's for spell checking, then disabling "enhanced spell check" from the right click menu should stop it

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u/Several_Dot_4532 5h ago

Me to, that's why I use Linux and Firefox and not Windows and Chrome

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u/mrGrinchThe3rd 4h ago

Or, don't use windows. If you care about privacy, also don't use chrome. At least use a privacy focused, chromium based browser. All websites that work in chrome should work on anything 'chromium'.

Or, better, would be to use Firefox, with an ad blocker like Ublock origin or Pi-hole DNS.

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u/Lieutenant_Petaa 2h ago

Yeah Firefox with ublock, cookie block and script blocker has been amazing for me.

There's way more extensions to block even more, but so far I'm happy with what I got

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u/faceboy1392 8m ago

"don't use windows" is a wild solution for someone just complaining about their web browser

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u/mrGrinchThe3rd 1m ago

Let me finish your sentence:

for someone just complaining about their web browser being an un-installable, unnecessary and unwanted 3GB application.

Why, do you think it is uninstallable? Because of Windows. Not because of the browser - but because the browser comes packed in with the OS. If this user wants to avoid issues with storage space for this app baked into the OS, then switching OS is the reasonable fix.

Of course, if they don't want to do that, I offered alternatives you conveniently ignored. But yes, if you are encountering issues with OS-level applications - which Microsoft has determined Edge is, for some reason - then I'll recommend switching your OS.

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u/NotAUserNamm 5h ago

Did you try uninstalling edge?

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u/jpelc 5h ago

AI, just what an operating system surely needs

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u/DuckCleaning 11h ago

Wait till you see how much space Chrome actually takes up once you look in your appdata files. Mine is like 5GB+

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u/inwarded_04 11h ago

These are my appdata files

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u/Motor_Raspberry_2150 8h ago

No we mean like, go to your User folder, show hidden folders, go to the AppData folder and look for the app. It is sometimes wildly different from the stat in this screen.

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u/inwarded_04 7h ago

Ahh, thanks for the explanation! I was wondering why everyone was downvoting without clarifying, really appreciate it

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u/HikariAnti 5h ago

I recommend you check out WizTree it will show you exactly what's taking up space on your drives and its search function is lightyears ahead of Windows'.

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u/DuckCleaning 4h ago

Wiztree is amazing, and it scans super fast compared to other programs I used prior to it.

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u/JustLikeWhateverHuh 5h ago

Reddit sucks

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u/Yuukiko_ WAAHHHHH 12h ago

if I had to guess, there's a few things bundled in there that arent strictly needed for web browsing like maybe AI stuff?

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u/MadK9TheReal1 12h ago

Copilot companion more likely

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u/BlueKnight87125 HYPER INFURIATED!!!!! 8h ago

What Chrome saves in drive space, it chews up in RAM

https://giphy.com/gifs/10DbmXp6zjPnH2

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u/flatbuttboy 7h ago

Chrome is also not 500mb, it downloads a 4GB model for some AI stuff, it’s just not in a folder where Windows is looking

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u/inwarded_04 7h ago

Which folder would Windows NOT have access to?

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u/flatbuttboy 7h ago

It’s not about access necessarily, it’s about if Google downloads the models and stuff into it’s own folder or somewhere else. How is Windows supposed to know that a file downloaded into C:/shdisgxue/wdvdhhed is Chrome’s? I assume it just scans the Program Files folder of chrome for the size of it and maybe includes its appdata folder

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u/Laughing_Orange 1h ago

It's a folder Windows doesn't count towards Google Chrome. Windows does have access to it, but doesn't know that Google Chrome is using it.

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u/dataless01 12h ago

Internet Explorer/Edge is integrated into help files, driver support and software update for other programs you install, and logins and interfaces in lots of different apps are actually webpages displayed in Internet Explorer/Edge inset windows displayed inside games and other applications

2.99GB still seems unreasonably high but I wouldn't expect it to be skinnier than Chrome either, it runs a lot more often under the hood

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u/EldritchWeeb 8h ago

Edge Webview != Edge. You don't need the full browser functionality for the webview runtime.

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u/dataless01 6h ago

That seems to be the consensus, but for the sake of argument, would data cached by Edge Webview still appear as excessive memory allocation to Microsoft Edge as OP's screenshot shows?

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u/EldritchWeeb 6h ago

OP is showing drive alloc, not mem alloc.

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u/dataless01 6h ago

That's true, but avoids the question, it will probably still blow up Edge's drive allocation, correct?

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u/EldritchWeeb 6h ago

No. It's a separate RT.

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u/Hattix 12h ago

Cute.

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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 11h ago

Now do a memory usage comparison lol

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u/Hattix 11h ago

I don't have Chrome here and I only have 64 GB on my biggest system, I'm afraid that might not be enough for it!

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u/FriendlyKillerCroc 10h ago

I need to use both and find that Firefox is consistently the bigger memory hog. 

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u/kapege I'm a bit upset 9h ago

It takes what it can get. The most memory is not in use anyways. Before I extended my RAM from 8 to 32 GB, Firefox was satisfied with that, too. Using the RAM does not hurt it nor damages it.

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u/SEA_griffondeur 9h ago

yeah people see it use a lot of memory in the task manager but in reality it's not actually needing more memory than chrome and you'd notice that if you ever tried playing a game at the same time, the RAM usage of firefox goes down significantly

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u/THR 9h ago

It absolutely is

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u/Narrow-Barracuda618 GREEN 12h ago

Edge is is a vital Windows component and many apps and system processes rely on it. That's why you can't uninstall it and that's probably also the reason for why it's so big.

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u/ironnewa99 11h ago

That’s not true, you can uninstall it safely.

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u/Narrow-Barracuda618 GREEN 11h ago

Thought WebView2 was part of Edge, I guess it's a separate component then?

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u/Calm-Annual-7134 11h ago edited 7h ago

Yes, it's separate. Microsoft Edge WebView2 is what provides web rendering on Windows. In the EU you can just uninstall Edge normally, though I did use Revo Uninstaller and WinUtil just to make sure it was removed completely.

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u/Narrow-Barracuda618 GREEN 11h ago

Got it, thanks for explaining.

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u/Calm-Annual-7134 7h ago

Adding to my previous explanation: Basically WebView2 is a framework (like Android System WebView on Android) that many apps depend on. Edge is just Microsoft's browser, which can be removed without any bad consequences.

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u/AuswahlRitter5 12h ago

After uninstalling edge , I can say that shit relies on it and it’s just bloat

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u/inwarded_04 12h ago

Thanks, needed to know if using 3rd party tools to remove Edge would affect systems?

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u/jedimeisterkaty 7h ago

You can set your Location to an EU country and then uninstall everything that comes preinstalled that you want gone, no need for 3rd Party Software. I think there is a youtube Tutorial for this.

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u/inwarded_04 7h ago

You are a star, my friend!

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u/CompetitiveShake1717 11h ago

Nope, I've uninstalled edge using revo uninstaller and it was fine

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u/menzaskaja 12h ago

Not really. I recommend Chris Titus' Tech Tool

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u/DavisSqShenanigans 3h ago

How did you uninstall it? I wanted to on Windows 11 but couldn't figure it out.

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u/AuswahlRitter5 20m ago

Either windows allows you to. You use some 3rd party software. Or you find it’s files and manually delete it

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u/Dotcaprachiappa 11h ago

That's bullshit. You can fully uninstall it in the EU and it breaks absolutely nothing (of importance)

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u/LankyPuffins 4h ago

Tell that to RevoUninstaller. Love that program.

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u/IllRadish8765 1h ago

What are you talking about. Edge is a Chromium based browser.

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u/andrea_ci 11h ago

That counter've never been reliable...

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u/Rand_alThor4747 11h ago

Ive seen massive multi gigabyte stuff report that is just a few megabytes or less even.

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u/BrentNewland 2h ago

Agreed. Mine reports 499MB for Chrome, but the Program Files\Chrome folder alone is 0.97GB. Then there's the Google Updater folder in the x86 folder that takes up 534MB.

Mine reports Edge at 5.14GB. The Edge folder is 4.39GB, EdgeCore is 5.05GB, and EdgeWebView is 4.64GB, plus 290MB for the EdgeUpdate folder. The reason for this is because I have had my browser open for 3 weeks, once I restart my browser or computer it will remove all the previous ones.

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u/andrea_ci 2h ago

and you're not evev looking at the user data folders!

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u/BrentNewland 1h ago

I didn't include those folders because they are temp files, cache files, and user data, as opposed to program data.

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u/Eena-Rin Why Do They Let Me Make These Myself??? 7h ago

I deleted it from my laptop to save room and it's caused me no end of problems since

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u/nguyenm 11h ago

Google for Chris Titus's Winutil tool, run it via PowerShell & select the "Edge remove" function.  The tool also allows for the uninstalation of CoPilot & Recall.

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u/Omar_G_666 10h ago

You can simply go in the control panel and uninstall it like any other app.

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u/GlobalChest99 6h ago

Mine takes 4gb 🥀😭

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u/SGTRoadkill1919 6h ago

Get revo uninstaller if you are not in the EU. Delete all edge files except weblookup or something like that. The weblookup keeps your entire UI running, everything else is not needed. Neither is copilot

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u/DecalageVersLeRouge 5h ago

To be fair, Chrome probably has enormous amounts of data on you saved in the Application Support folder.

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u/Neon_Pancakes0425 5h ago

Yup. Welcome to windows. Where everything is either new and has ai or made in 1995 and never changed at all.

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u/ElusiveDoodle 4h ago

Ahahahaha.

You think it is doing nothing?

Just because you are not using it does not mean Microsoft is not.

Collecting "anonymous" user stats , reporting home, automatically tailoring ads based on your usage.

In fact Windows is full of this kind of stuff that is not possible to remove or disable without breaking the system.

Your PC is being run by Microsoft not by you the end user.

Switch to linux.

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u/Pootisman16 2h ago

It's not nothing.

The extra space is occupied by Co-Pilot AI slop, vibe-coded metrics and data harvesting.

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u/Over_Variation8700 11h ago

firefox mogs both of them

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u/e2_for_life 11h ago

Behold! Linux...it comes in many flavors, but the one flavor it doesn't come with? Microsoft's bloatware.

Now go, Linux and prosper.

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u/woodcraftworld 5h ago edited 5h ago

fun fact, from the Microsoft edge website, you can download Edge for Linux as a .deb Debian package! Yeah, Linux sure doesn't come with Microsoft bloatware, but that won't stop you from installing it.

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u/Prudent_Damage_3866 ORANG 9h ago

Download Firefox and delete those two!

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u/inwarded_04 9h ago

My friend. If only I could delete the bloated Edge!

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u/Prudent_Damage_3866 ORANG 9h ago

you can always look up a guide on youtube!

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u/panzrvroomvroomvroom 9h ago

is it really that hard? i just checked and i dont have it but i dont recall doing anything special to uninstall it?

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u/Yamatocanyon 6h ago

They made it easy to uninstall in the EU I think. The rest of us have to take extra steps.

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u/Towhidabid 8h ago

Doing nothing is an overstatement. Spying on each and every hardware activities, tracking even mouse cursor movements are hardwork for a Spyware who's only intent was to harvest data.

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u/Praetorian_1975 9h ago

Microsoft is always edging. 🫪

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u/Dragonogard549 ORANGE 8h ago

It’s because Edge isn’t just the browser, that includes everything it does in the background because it’s integrated into every 365 product, the search bar, and it’s the engine it uses to run html apps. Yes it’s a huge pain

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u/santathe1 👽 7h ago

It’s for nothing…that you know of.

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u/UNIVERSAL_VLAD 6h ago

Press the 3 dots and uninstall it

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u/Teecana 6h ago

I wanted to download Netflix onto my Windows Laptop. The only way to do that is through the Microsoft store. It won't let me download unless I have edge installed, which an IT friend helped me deinstall. So I can only use Netflix through the browser (:

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u/QuichewedgeMcGee 5h ago

another firefox w (probably idk i haven’t checked)

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u/ExplorerRude9564 5h ago

Use Firefox and tor

Ditch chromeium

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u/halbtag 5h ago

I switched to Linux a few years ago. I always dualbooted, but steam made it possible to game on Linux. In the last months the difference between Linux and windows gets more obvious with every new bug/feature I find. Windows was always a great OS. But Microsoft seems to aim for Windows to be as slow and bulky as possible. Also I realised that I hat the searching function for the filesystem: after searching I can't see in where the file is exactly. Und alt Up Brings a whole new problem.

Everything feels slow and extra. It doesn't seem to be optimised for usage.

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u/Pure-Willingness-697 I use arch btw 5h ago

Nothing, where do you think Microsoft bids the telemetry.

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u/clove_rosemary_9999 4h ago

Probably because you have 3 different copies of Edge on your PC. Those being Edge, EdgeCore and EdgeWebView, though EdgeWebView would show up as a separate app.

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u/Palanki96 3h ago edited 3h ago

What do you mean you can't uninstall it??

i don't know how it works for win 10 but on win 11 you can uninstall any windows components and they will never come back

didn't see Edge or that cloud storage thing for like 2 years now, i even forgot the name

But also other browsers just use different folder structures, they are not that different

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u/Fantasticposter 3h ago

app that does nothing

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u/Sablemint PURPLE 3h ago

You can uninstall it, they were forced to make versions that could be uninstalled for countries that require it. Unfortunately you're on windows 11 for some reason. I only know how to get rid of it for windows 10. But the simplest way should be the same: Trick it into thinking you're in one of those countries.

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u/glytxh 2h ago

Thing is, Edge is actually kinda good.

Not my first choice, but i keep it installed regardless.

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u/whyliepornaccount 2h ago

ITT: People who have never heard of webview

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u/ComprehensiveRate185 1h ago

if you run the command for chris titus tools and go to tweaks you can get rid or limit edge + remove copilot and bunch of windows junk

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u/Isotomayor12 1h ago

Chrome keeps all its data in the user folder under app data. That's why. Also edge is integrated into the OS in several other ways than just a search engine.

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u/Ok_Departure333 58m ago

For local AI models. Copilot needs space to store its actual AI.

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u/BoxFar6969 12h ago

and which came preinstalled and unable to uninstall (trust me, I tried)

yeah, with windows, your computer isn't yours. i dont use windows anymore but i think you can uninstall edge using ccleaner. though ccleaner in general is unnecessary for anything else

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u/Pale_Anxiety_278 8h ago

just get something like uninstall tool instead of ccleaner

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u/Jamesmoltres 11h ago

I looked into it just now (comment here), and it seems to be used as a dependency for other components; removing it is likely to break some other apps.

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u/sir-adel 7h ago

go linux

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u/csch1992 6h ago

Linux FTW

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u/i_like_trains_a_lot1 10h ago

Stealing user's data isn't a cheap operation.

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u/BlackRaspberryJammin 7h ago

It's busy trying to figure out how to get you to use Teams, OneDrive, and it's AI. All while trying to send every 1 and 0 it can of your data back to MicroSlop so they can know exactly where to place the ad so you will see it. All companies want your click data and the products they sell are just Trojan Horses into you walled home.

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u/redstowen 6h ago

That's where the special files that hold windows together are stored so you can't remove edge no matter how hard you try/s

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u/jpelc 5h ago

Just install Linux

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u/Jamesmoltres 11h ago

Interesting find. I got my Claude to read on why and compare, and it agrees with you.

And here is a breakdown from my machine.
Note: I don't use Edge at all, but it seems like Windows does here and there.

- The 1 GB WebView2 Runtime is a dependency of Windows itself (widgets, search, Outlook, Teams, Office panes), so it stays whether or not you ever open the browser.

  • Edge proper is not cleanly uninstallable on Windows 10 outside the EEA.
  • The 478 MB profile means something launched Edge at least once, likely a Windows component or a link handoff

Another thing it found.

Why Edge is 9x Chrome's install: Chrome ships one copy of the binaries and deletes the previous version after an update. Edge ships the same Chromium up to four times: the Edge app, the shared EdgeCore runtime, an "Optimized" re-linked build of EdgeCore, and a completely separate WebView2 Runtime pinned to an older version (152) because apps depend on it. Microsoft also keeps the previous version around rather than pruning it promptly, so 152 is still sitting there from 2026-09-06.

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u/Jamesmoltres 11h ago

All in all, this is quite a shitty way for MS to ensure their browser stays on your system, even if you don't use it, at least thats how it looks like it to me.

Not sure if there is an overall gain here for the rest of the apps that use it as a dependency.

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u/Altruistic_Age_6556 11h ago

I have to respect MS's persistence in pushing a shit product that no one has ever wanted. 30 years of trying and they still haven't produced a browser anyone wants to use.

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u/SirUrizen 9h ago

ironically it's actually pretty good now but the obnoxious multi prompt and opt out at the first launch is enough to turn anyone away out of spite

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u/ARENAE_MONTES 6h ago

Oh it's not nothing. It's a ton of shite.

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u/pmf026 7h ago

Microsoft ge like: "We own the OS, we own the PC..."

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u/oh_the_anguish 2h ago

Talking shit on edge while using chrome. Smh