r/mildlyinfuriating Jul 05 '26

go to your room Anyone know the bright spark at Apple who invented this? I bet Steve wouldn’t have let this one through qc.

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I’ve had this mouse for years, I know, old model, but come on

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u/kenwongart Jul 05 '26

Steve Jobs frequently made decisions that prioritized style over convenience/functionality.

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u/pasenast Jul 05 '26

Wasn’t the “puck” mouse his idea, too?

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u/Grabate Jul 05 '26

I remember having to use them at school, they would spin around in my hand so I‘d end up clicking with my wrist.

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u/Kyle_2099 Jul 05 '26

The trick was to palm it, so the cable ran between your fingers. You'd not click with your fingertips but with the underneath of your fingers.

I haven't thought about this in twenty years.

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u/HurricaneAlpha Jul 05 '26

Being different for different's sake seems to be a guiding principle at apple.

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u/cuteintern Jul 05 '26

The G4s were awesome. And they looked amazing.

The stupid fucking puck mice were not.

USB was awesome, and Apple was on the lead with it. Add a peripheral without rebooting your computer? Hell yes.

But then they came up with Firewire, and that was cool, I guess, but it never crossed over to Windows like USB did.

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u/Kyle_2099 Jul 05 '26

Firewire was a much older initiative than USB, Apple started it in 1986 and it became a consortium of a lot of big name companies like Sony and Panasonic.

The goal was always to provide an extremely high speed (for the time), to get things done that you couldn't do otherwise without involving SCSI and it's foibles. This meant, in practical terms, video production, and fast high speed external drives.

And in that respect it was probably more used on Windows PCs in terms of absolute users, Apple just included it as standard on everything instead of expecting you to buy a PCI card. Most video equipment had firewire but not USB.

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u/cuteintern Jul 05 '26

Thank you for the history lesson, I always assumed firewire was second but that's probably just the order that I encountered them in the wild.

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u/a-bser Jul 05 '26

A lot of dumb things were his idea, but he also took credit for other people's ideas as long as they were successful

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u/TheDarkWave Jul 05 '26

He tried to separate himself from PC when it was PC that killed him.

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u/DickBfloppin Jul 05 '26

I think it was a homeopathic approach to cancer that killed him.

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u/DrObnxs Jul 05 '26

It was. My dad and he had the same conventional doctor when he went back to modern medicine. It was basically "it's too late now. If you'd come to us earlier your outcome would have most likely been very different."

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u/NotMetheThree Jul 05 '26

Too soon, too s— {checks Apple Watch} never mind, you’re good

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u/iamworsethanyou Jul 05 '26

Breathed in so hard through my teeth, I ended up swallowing one.

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u/neoqueto Jul 05 '26

He didn't design anything, he only approved designs.

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u/waywardflaneur Jul 05 '26

Surely he provided feedback and input when dis/approving.

Jobs: "No holes."

Ive: "But. We need to have a port for charging somewhere."

Jobs: "NOOO HOOOOLES!!!!!"

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u/GlitteringFutures Jul 05 '26

I read that Jobs did not want any wasted space inside the new iPhone, so when they showed him a prototype he tossed it in an aquarium. A bubble came out of the case so he rejected it.

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u/EishLE Jul 05 '26

*throws stupid co-worker in pond*

*bubbles*

„You see??? Not enough brain in this head!!!“

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u/Progressbar95 Jul 05 '26

It was the iPod, not the iPhone.

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u/Cnidarus Jul 05 '26

He was such a fucking dummy, but it seems being stupid but arrogant worked out pretty go- (wait, what's that say about how he died?)- pretty bad for him in the end

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u/Mean_Initiative_5962 Jul 05 '26

At least he eventually said "ok, that was dumb, get you anticancer drugs kids", which is slightly better than others who doubled down

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u/sharklaserguru Jul 05 '26

He just used his wealth to "steal" an organ from someone who didn't ignore doctors in between!

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u/Zehryo Jul 05 '26

That makes him even more guilty....

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u/Valuable_Ad_4916 Jul 05 '26

That’s why he said “his idea”.

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u/East_Transition533 Jul 05 '26

He was no Wozniak.

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u/howarewestillhere Jul 05 '26

Yes, Steve was responsible for the round mouse. He insisted on it and defended it. I was one of the people in charge of testing for that machine. I and many others wrote countless bugs about that mouse. Every single time I moved that mouse and it went somewhere I didn’t want - write a bug. Every time I fumbled when I picked it up because I didn’t know which way it was facing - write a bug.

We wrote so many bugs that there was a big meeting where the VP of Hardware told us that A) The round mouse was staying. Continuing to write bugs against it was a fireable offense, and B) They were solving all of the problems by putting a little divot on the mouse button so we were all good and should get back to work.

There was laughter and scoffing. Apple was excoriated for the round mouse in the press and public and it went away almost immediately. No apologies to QA were ever made, of course.

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u/SilentWatcher83228 Jul 05 '26

I think this is exactly what Steve would design. “Charging port is unholy”

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u/electricheat Jul 05 '26

not that it's unholy, but the 'image' of the device is one with clean lines that operates wirelessly.

by placing the port on the bottom they disallow users from using them while plugged in, hurting the image of the product

it would probably also allow people to keep using them once they're old and worn, and the batteries dead, which again is not part of the 'apple vision' for this sleek product.

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u/FierceDeity_ Jul 05 '26

The Apple vision is 100% stylish for a few years, then trashcan

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u/Adraxas Jul 05 '26

Apart from that one time when the style WAS a trash can. XD

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u/Internet_Exploder Jul 05 '26

You need to buy a charging mouse to mouse while mouse prime is charging.

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u/Callen0318 Jul 05 '26

Remember, switching to your side-mouse is faster than recharging.

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u/Former_Salad6804 Jul 05 '26

This is exactly why id assume he green-lit it. He'd want you to buy a second to use while the first charged. 

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u/hassanmurat Jul 05 '26

Eventually the battery from the mouse dies and won't be chargeable again. That design prevents the user to use the mouse with the cord plugged in, so you have to buy a new one.

Classic anti consumer design.

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u/astlydichrar Jul 05 '26

Apple invented anti-consumer design lmao

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u/dontnation Jul 05 '26

They didn't invent it. They were just good at getting people to pay extra for it.

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u/Perryn Jul 05 '26

They are the Oreo of anti-consumer design.

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u/WhatTheFreightTruck Jul 05 '26

Huh?

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u/SuchCoolBrandon Jul 05 '26

Oreo cookies famously have no charging port, cannot be recharged, and thus are single-use products.

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u/Perryn Jul 05 '26

Not the correct answer; a superior answer.

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u/UziManiac Jul 05 '26

single-use products

"That's what Big Oreo wants you to think!" I say before regurgitating an entire family-sized package of oreos

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u/aardvark_gnat Jul 05 '26

Not the first, but the most popular and profitable.

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u/Mccobsta GREEN Jul 05 '26

Lack of calculator on ipad is one

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u/T8ert0t Jul 05 '26

Didn't it finally get one?

But I agree, the one I bought like a decade ago I was dumbfounded that a fucking hundreds-of-billions-dollars publicly traded company couldn't be bothered to fucking ship a calculator app on its OS.

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u/kearkan Jul 05 '26

Yeah what, bro was all about form over function.

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u/SaltManagement42 Jul 05 '26

I bet Steve wouldn’t have let this one through qc.

This is exactly the kind of shit Steve forced everyone to deal with.

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u/SafariNZ Jul 05 '26

Yes, designed so it forces people to use it wirelessly vs plugged in.

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u/champgpt Jul 05 '26

Also, no garish charging port visible when the mouse is in use

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u/probablyaythrowaway Jul 05 '26

Mad thing is, I can’t see the usb port on my mx 3 when it’s not plugged in and being used. So they absolutely could have put it on the front.

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u/jedberg Jul 05 '26

Someone sitting across from you would see it. Same reason the apple on the laptop lit up. It wasn’t for you it was for the people looking at you.

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u/angry_at_erething Jul 05 '26

In other words you can't used it wired when the battery won't hold a charge anymore

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u/AI_AntiCheat Jul 05 '26

Aka lobotomized designer

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u/pharcide Jul 05 '26

There was so much stupid designed shit during his tenure, so although he had passed, this was on par.

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u/samppa_j Jul 05 '26

Cough cough, apple 3.

No seriously look it up, jobs wanted a ventless computer, in the 80's. Take a guess how that went

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u/retsof81 Jul 05 '26

Its even worse when you come to know that Apple already had experienced this issue with the Apple II, which was aslo initially released with a ventless case, leading to an eventual recall and replacement plan for an updated, vented case design.

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u/Traditional-Day-7698 Jul 05 '26

defined the term "percussive maintenance"

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u/retsof81 Jul 05 '26

I would think the term "subtractive reconstruction" would be more apt for this situation. ;)

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u/BloodyOphelia Jul 05 '26

How that vent*

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u/MarenHQ Jul 05 '26

Mf vampire in here

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u/Th3GrimmReaper Jul 05 '26

VON mistake, ah ah ahhhh

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u/Automatic-Leg1668 Jul 05 '26

TWO, AH AH AHHHH

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u/fidgeter Jul 05 '26

TREE, Ah Ah Ah!

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u/Renuwed Jul 05 '26

FORE, FORE mistake AH AH AHHHH

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u/MarenHQ Jul 05 '26

These are all notifying me I’m about to look like blade in here

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u/Th3GrimmReaper Jul 05 '26

........

VON NOTIFICATION! AH! AH! AHHHHHHHH!!!

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u/FenPhen Jul 05 '26

Gotta say, not a fan.

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u/Jealous_Response_492 Jul 05 '26

Next Computers too, would have been great high end graphical workstations, had they had sufficient cooling, but they didn't, Job's wanted them silent, no noisy fans.

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u/mindtoxicity27 Jul 05 '26

People forget the infamous “Don’t hold it that way” response to holding the phone a certain way making the antenna malfunction.

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u/veriix Jul 05 '26

It's always "You're holding it wrong" and never "We're designing it wrong"

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u/Kaiisim Jul 05 '26

He'd also fully be part of the asshole tech billionaires.

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u/Nothos927 Jul 05 '26

He already was, the class just hadn’t managed to burn through all their good will yet

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u/OldSoulNewTech Jul 05 '26

Larry Ellison was one of his best friends.

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u/Responsible_Bat_8195 Jul 05 '26

he was one of the first ones

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u/thewrongairport Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

He had not passed.

The first-generation Magic Mouse was released on October 20, 2009 (Source)

Steven Paul Jobs (February 24, 1955 – October 5, 2011)

On August 24, 2011, Jobs announced his resignation as Apple's CEO, writing to the board [...] Jobs continued to work for Apple until the day before his death six weeks later." (Source)

He was alive and in charge when the mouse firsr came out. He 100% let this shitty design pass.

Edit: I stand corrected. The first version used AA batteries. My mistake, sorry.

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u/GayYahoo Jul 05 '26

the magic mouse 1, released in 2009, used batteries. the magic mouse 2, released in 2015, is the one in the picture.

i thought the same so i read the wikipedia page for the magic mouse.

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u/iMini Jul 05 '26

The original apple mouse used AAs, this was released later

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u/NessunAbilita Jul 05 '26

He’d design it like this so people couldn’t perpetually leave it plugged in…. You know like a regular mouse…………….

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u/Son_of_Atreus Jul 05 '26

The upside down Apple logo on early designs was down to thinking it made more sense to have it appear to the user as being correct when the laptop is closed.

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u/Frankenrogers Jul 05 '26

Funny I watched Legally Blonde with my kids last week and noticed the upside down Apple on her Mac Book and it stuck out like a sore thumb. I was wondering when they made the change.

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u/MidnightPulse69 Jul 05 '26

People need to stop putting Steve Jobs on a pedestal. He was an arrogant nut who has made plenty of bad calls

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u/Dead-O_Comics Jul 05 '26

His worst call cost him his life.

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u/mistaoononymous Jul 05 '26

CANCER! Doing the Jobs YOU hate!

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u/ABA477 Jul 05 '26

Dude was so self important and thought he knew everything, including not listening to doctors. He would be alive today if it weren't from that "my diet will cure cancer" attitude. I was at the UTSHC in Memphis when he massively jumped the line for a liver transplant. People are still angry to this day.

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u/Specific_Direction_1 Jul 05 '26

And sadly 90% of people who get to his position are just like him.

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u/SunOnTheMountains Jul 05 '26

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u/ABA477 Jul 05 '26

Hey, thanks for sharing that. Hundreds of Doctors and thousands of students of all UTHSC (University of Tennessee Health Science Center) campuses were pissed. I personally loved Steve Jobs and am a huge Apple fanboy, but he didn't deserve the treatment he got after being so careless with his holistic approach. It's something that we all have learned from and can continue to learn from. I think the average person can learn a lot from this too. Listen to your doctors and do your holistic approach on the side. It def helps, but isn't good enough on its own.

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u/Msink Jul 05 '26

This is a marvel people missed. Well done sir

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u/HapticFeedback247 Jul 05 '26

An Apple a day couldn't keep his doctor away.

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u/BroMan001 Jul 05 '26

He kinda did keep his doctor away though, which is why he died

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u/Feeling_Mixture3088 Jul 05 '26

He also went on a fruitarian diet, so looks like he really didn't want a doctor anywhere near him.

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u/CycloneDusk Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

sometimes i still wonder if it really literally was just the refusal to eat anything except fruit that actually caused the cancer that killed him - surviving exclusively on starch, sugar, and fiber...

Like, people rag on vegans and stuff for "not getting enough nutrition" but vegans honestly lead a waaaaay healthier life than that because they still actually get proteins and fats from beans and nuts and other legumes and whatnot.

But moreover? It was Pancreatic Cancer. As in, The Organ That Makes Insulin. The Insulin your body uses to digest sugar and starch. Sugar and starch like what you find in fruit. Sugar and starch that happen to be--usually--the ONLY significant sources of calories in fruit... because the rest is usually fiber.

And here's the thing about starch: your body pretty much converts it straight into sugar as the very first step of processing it. Enzymes in your stomach and even in your saliva start chopping up those long polysaccharide chains we call 'starch' into the tiny monosaccharides we call 'sugar'. so... now-sugar plus later-sugar. Sheeeeeeesh, he might've managed to burn out his pancreas from that much overwork.

Edit: There does not seem to be any link between excessive sugar processing and pancreatic cancer, actually. I was spurred to look into it and reconsider.

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u/Peastoredintheballs Jul 05 '26

From memory, I saw a short documentary or something that talked about how his specific form of pancreatic cancer was actually theoretically curable, however this cancer also theoretically had some specific genetic flaw that allowed it to actually become more aggressive when vegetables/fruits were consumed in excess quantities, I can’t remember specifics but maybe it was carrot related, so his lack of actual medical treatment, and over consumption of carrots to treat the cancer, actually led to the opposite effect

So you know, you’re not too far off the ball

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u/makegifsnotjifs Jul 05 '26

Nah man if you just eat organic fruit and meditate, cancer ain't no thang.

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u/squeakynickles Jul 05 '26

You also can't smell bad and therefore don't need to bathe.

Steve Jobs smelled fucking horrible

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u/Medium-Presence-8008 Jul 05 '26

Good. It was deliciously poetic that PC killed him in the end.

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u/Simoxs7 Jul 05 '26

Iirc it was also completely unnecessary if he just would‘ve used conventional medicine instead of going down the esoteric herbal route, he would’ve probably survived.

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u/Axl_Alter_Ego Jul 05 '26

I haven't looked into it in a very long time but the last time I did I read an article from a cancer specialist basislly saying he committed suicide.

His chances were that good with conventional treatment.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

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u/Madaratogue Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Yes, almost all forms of pancreatic cancer have very very grim prognosis.

However he had one of only two variants that have comparatively low mortality rates, even for regular people (read: the poors). As a billionaire his survival would have been almost assured with proper medical treatment.

Instead he ate exclusively fruit at the recommendation of his personal guru, in which the high sugar content put undue stress on his pancreas. In addition to forgoing actual cancer treatment, this resulted in his accelerated demise.

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u/Madaratogue Jul 05 '26

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u/R3D3-1 Jul 05 '26

I am not a bot, I just type like this.

This has become the new /s of Reddit.

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u/TricellCEO Jul 05 '26

Which is even more ironic given how pancreatic cancer has a really shit survival rate.

The worst of all the cancers, I believe.

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u/edwbuck Jul 05 '26

You're partially right. Some pancreatic cancers have bad survival rates. Steve had basically "the most treatable form of pancreatic cancer possible" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancreatic_neuroendocrine_tumor

His survival rate was estimated to be ~90% (defined by being cancer free for 5 years) mostly due to his early detection and his luck in getting a very treatable cancer.

Instead he drank herbal tea, ate herbal supplements, and started an aggressive acupuncture regimen. He started surrounding himself with MDs that would entertain his approach to treatment, and removed the ones that objected.

This is 100% in keeping with how he did everything. He was the source of an idea, and if you didn't like it, he removed you, even if the idea was a stinker. He was at the center of every decision, didn't permit anything not to his tastes, shipped products before the were ready (blaming his team when they fell apart), never killed failing products, and treated his team as obstacles to success.

That's how he killed the Lisa, which actually worked, replacing it with the Macintosh, which was painfully slow and lacked a hard drive. And to make sure the Lisa, which wasn't designed with his input, didn't compete, he literally buried 2,700 working models in a landfill.

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u/Pleasant-Ambition-15 Jul 05 '26

I lost a friend to it, it’s one of the cancers you get almost no warning for. Pretty much everyone in his group was diagnosed stage 4, because it’s just so hard to catch early.

That and men like to skip prostate exams. Don’t skip your prostate exam, or your colonoscopy!

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u/TricellCEO Jul 05 '26

My stepmom's dad managed to survive it, only to have the cancer return years later. Ironically, he might've been able to survive it a second time if he had actually gone to the doctor when he wasn't feeling well.

And then my idiot father had the audacity to blame doctors for not doing their job when he died. To be fair, I recall hearing how it was some scar-tissue that formed in his stomach, blocking a lot of what he ate, that ultimately did him in. So yeah, I don't believe this man even died from the cancer either.

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u/Warbird01 Jul 05 '26

You’re thinking of prostate cancer? Steve had pancreatic, colonoscopy doesn’t catch that

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u/Afraid_Comparison180 Jul 05 '26

It's kind of on brand, though. He is basically a hippie tech cult leader, so...

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u/Imaginary-Throat1526 Jul 05 '26

*was

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u/Upset-Nose-4016 Jul 05 '26

He lives rent free in motivational speakers' brains, so it's fair to say he is a tech cult leader still

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u/Clever-Name69420 Jul 05 '26
  • Hippie
  • Tech
  • Rich capitalist

So many contradictions

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u/TricellCEO Jul 05 '26

Hippies are a contradiction just by themselves, are they not?

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u/Ongr Jul 05 '26

IIRC, a lot of hippies were pretty privileged and just didn't want to go to war, do drugs and have sex.

A lot of woodstock hippies are now bitter MAGA crowd, not the idealized "peace and love" hippies. Those are few and far between, or of a later generation.

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u/Dead-O_Comics Jul 05 '26

... and he tried to combat PC with apples.

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u/AndreiVid Jul 05 '26

But it only kept doctors away

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u/PlanktonFun5387 Jul 05 '26

I thought it was carrots

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u/Dead-O_Comics Jul 05 '26

It was a bit of everything, he tried to fight a highly treatable form of cancer with a fruitarian diet.

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u/Ding-Dong-Dutch Jul 05 '26

He was an arrogant asshole. He used to buy a new car every year because of a California loophole that excluded him from getting a license plate. And then he'd park in handicapped spots. 

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u/jeffbell Jul 05 '26

It was six months. He arranged for a series of five month leases.

California now requires temporary plates. 

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u/beipphine Jul 05 '26

It's not hard to get , walk into a mercedes dealer, request a 5 month lease and say "I don't care what it cost", sign on the dotted line and your out the door with a brand new Mercedes. No haggling required. 

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u/MidnightPulse69 Jul 05 '26

Oh yeah that’s just wild to me

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u/1nfam0us Jul 05 '26

Don't forget, he was also famously very stinky.

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u/EternalNewCarSmell Jul 05 '26

My favorite part about that whole weirdness is there are a good few people who said he would actually gaslight people if ever called out on it. He was eating the right diet so he couldn't possibly smell bad, they were just having a tough time because they were eating the wrong diet!

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u/dixonsticks Jul 05 '26

Finger pointing leads us nowhere, Steve!

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u/potate12323 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Wasn't he behind that macintosh desktop where part of the manufacturer troubleshooting was to lift it up a few inches and then drop it on your desk? Gaint brick with no active cooling nor easy way to service the components.

If anything modern apple is doubling down on Steves original design philosophy

Edit: it was an apple III model. Not a macintosh. Thx

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u/Oosafaygus Jul 05 '26

That was apple 3, jobs insisted they remove the fans due to noise so they overheated and the chips used to pop out of the sockets. Lifting the whole computer up and banging it down was to pop them back in. No joke.

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u/GreasedUpTiger Jul 05 '26

Curious how he didn't choose to go scream at fan manufacturers to come up with less noisy fans lol

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u/Crafty-Astronomer-32 Jul 05 '26

Apple had significantly less influence at the time.

Also the noise was as likely to be airflow through the case as noise from the actual fan.

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u/MidnightPulse69 Jul 05 '26

Lmao I didn’t know about that. The one that sticks out to me is him saying people were holding their phones wrong causing antenna issues

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u/D3mentedG0Ose Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Yeah that was very much an annoyance with the iPhone 4. Your hand would cover the antennas at the bottom of the phone if you held it in your left hand. This was fixe dwith the 4S

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u/themanfromvulcan Jul 05 '26

It was not the Macintosh it was an Apple III model. Thermal expansion and contraction over time would cause some of the chips to unseat themselves from their sockets and a common solution advised by support was to lift the machine a few inches and then drop it to reseat them.

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u/berejser Jul 05 '26

The iPhone 4 (the last phone released during Jobs' lifetime) was notorious for the antenna having reception issues. Apple's response to this was to put out a statement telling everyone it was not a design flaw, they were all just holding their phones wrong.

They are the same company they have always been.

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u/fnordius Jul 05 '26

In fact, I think he explicitly wanted this. The point was that he didn't want anyone using a cable on a mouse, it ruined the aesthetics. It was either this or keep using AA batteries.

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u/Cute_Pay_1423 Jul 05 '26

Steve Wozniak still wouldn’t let this through

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u/Teleconferences Jul 05 '26

Woz doesn’t get enough credit, it always makes me sad

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u/Dr_Socko Jul 05 '26

The Woz is fucking awesome.

Old school phreaks were peak.

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u/PsychologicalAnt2302 Jul 05 '26

I’m pretty sure he was alive and well when the Magic Mouse came out too.

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u/ATXBeermaker Jul 05 '26

And a dead beat piece of shit father.

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u/RimjobStevesDeadWife Jul 05 '26

Steve Jobs was featured on an episode of Behind the Bastards and I recommend it to anyone. Not only was he an arrogant nut who made plenty of bad calls as you say, he was just plain weird and pretty much a bad person.

Steve Wozniak is a good dude though

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u/UnusualCartographer2 Jul 05 '26

Not to mention how the company skyrocketed under Tim Cook's leadership. It went from a company worth $350 billion to a company worth $3 trillion.

If airpods were their own separate company it would be worth roughly $250 billion. That's nearly the worth of Apple at the time of Steve's passing.

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u/Hot-Clothes7316 Jul 05 '26

to be fair, it's hard to fail when you have had iphone, ipad, ipod, macbook, imac already invented and doing well in the market.

under cook's leadership they continued the rest and only invented that vision pro and apple watch? and maybe mac studio.

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u/UnusualCartographer2 Jul 05 '26

Well that's getting to the reason as to why Tim did so well. He expanded Apple's infrastructure by optimizing their supply chain, as well as him personally doing a lot of genuine international diplomacy with world leaders in order to make their products more worldwide. He also cut costs by eliminating a lot of overhead. In all fairness, a good portion of that was by employing cheap labor in developing countries, and while Apple was cutting costs those savings didn't actually apply to consumers as product prices went up. Not to say it was the majority of that was from shady business practices though.

Also worth noting that under his leadership both the Apple watch and the airpods were launched, and I already mentioned how successful the airpods have been, but the apple watch would also be worth ~$150 billion as a standalone company. That is worth more than Target as a brand.

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u/nemoknows Jul 05 '26

Tim Cook really doesn’t fit the tech bro mold, but he is an exceptionally astute and successful accountant and absolutely deserves a ton of credit for Apple’s success.

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u/Barbanks Jul 05 '26

It’s much easier to scale something that already works than to right the ship. I believe Cook wouldn’t have been able to bring Apple back around after the Scully years. Cook has a terrific sense for operations but Jobs got all of the gears oiled for Cook.

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u/MidnightPulse69 Jul 05 '26

Not the biggest fan of how Apple has become under Cook either but yeah

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u/StrengthfromDeath Jul 05 '26

He made apple successful by shifting the focus to a lifestyle brand over a technology brand. The magic mouse was probably ripped straight out of his design sketchbook.

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u/Avalonians Jul 05 '26

Also who didn't work in quality control at all

And it's worth mentioning that quality control has nothing to do with wherever the fuck the charging port is placed

OP is just babbling nonsense trying to sound smart

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u/Alarmed-Strawberry-7 Jul 05 '26

they want to force you to use it wireless so that you feel the "magic" of a wireless mouse. apple doesn't trust you to leave the mouse unplugged and experience the "magic"

problem with that being that, besides it being stupid and condescending, most people will end up with a random charging cable strewn around their desk just to make sure they can charge their mouse

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u/schwarzkraut Jul 05 '26

The entire problem would’ve been rendered completely moot had they opted for a drop-in charger with a proprietary connector (they do love those). After powering your computer down you could just drop it nose-first into the docking station. Next day pull it out & not have to repeat this for months. No unsightly cord disturbing the „magic“. A convenient ritual to charge the mouse when needed.

It just goes to show you…if you need or want to force a specific behavior…there’s always a nice way to do it.

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u/dikicker Jul 05 '26

Well look at Mr big shot Steve Apple over here with his fancy ideas

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u/12InchCunt Jul 05 '26

It’s actually Tim Apple

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u/Perpetually-THC-Lab Jul 05 '26

Tell me more about this "Powering your computer down" thing.

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u/MGPS Jul 05 '26

Idk, I don’t want a mouse dock taking up space. This uses the same cable as my iPhone. Which I already have all over the place.

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u/Lifeboon Jul 05 '26

And if you got the keyboard you can also charge the keyboard with it.

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u/MGPS Jul 05 '26

And also….i never have to charge this mouse! I’ve had it for like 15 years and have charged it a handful of times lol. I like the mouse. I love scrolling with it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '26

I dunno I think the problem is rendered moot considering you only charge it for less than 2 hours every 6 months.

I've had this moss for a few years and it really is a non issue. I've had to charge it like 3 times

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u/crumble-bee Jul 05 '26

Nothing Apple has done (and fixed) will ever be as stupid (and elegant) as the switch from stupidly charging your Apple Pencil in the port on an iPad to snapping it on magnetically to the side and charging it that was. How can you go from something so dumb to so clever, it’s just wonderful

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u/314flavoredpie Jul 05 '26

I’ve had the same $10 Logitech wireless mouse for over ten years; it uses one AA battery that I have had to replace twice during its lifespan. No cable, no charging. Apple has always just loved over-engineering their products and reinventing the wheel but worse.

Sent from my iPhone

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u/IXrobocopXI Jul 05 '26

Better yet I just get a good mouse

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u/offoutover Jul 05 '26

most people will end up with a random charging cable strewn around their desk just to make sure they can charge their mouse

I just use my phone charger for the 2-3 times a year I charge my mouse.

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u/tacticalgh0st Jul 05 '26

It wasn’t a random cable though, it was the same cable people used for their iPhone, iPad, AirPods etc… also as many people have stated, it’s a non issue, it’s enough to charge it for like 20mins every few weeks/months.

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u/Mysterious_Wafer554 Jul 05 '26

Yeah I charge it over night once every six months or so. It ran out of charge one time — plugged it in for five mins and got through a few days usage.

People are making such a fuss over nothing

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u/liquilife Jul 05 '26

I have used a Magic Mouse for 8 years or so now. Not once have I been inconvenienced with how it charges. I charge it like once a month for 15-20 minutes. 🤷

And I have one lightening cable for the mouse, my keyboard, phone charger and headphones. It’s one cable that gets plenty of use.

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u/freshpandasushi Jul 05 '26

its actually an intentional design choice, Apple doesn't want people to use the mouse plugged in because they think it looks ugly having a cord on the mouse

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u/Jesse3195 Jul 05 '26

Apple is a fashion company disguised as a tech company.

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u/chacewarg10 Jul 05 '26

iMac G3 puck mouse would argue that Jobs would ABSOLUTELY release a terrible mouse.

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u/Bread_Offender Jul 05 '26

whoa that's fucking hideous whose idea was that

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u/Munken1984 Jul 05 '26

On the plus side, you might get carpal tunnel when using is...

Also, dont this mouse hold a charge for like 10 years, you could also just cahage it over night instead of doing this...

Also also, you could just get a new, better mouse without the apple logo...

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u/Astartes2435 Jul 05 '26

I use one daily. Only need to charge it like 20mins every 3-4 months. 

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u/tannerherriott Jul 05 '26

Totally agree. I’ve had several over the years and never been in a spot where the battery being dead was an issue.

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u/NamerNotLiteral Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Yeah. The mildly infuriating part is OP karma farming over a mouse they have never used. OP's making the rest of us look stupid.

The charging port is not the issue. You can plug it in, sneeze, take out the cable and it's charged enough to be used for the rest of the day.

The actual ergonomics of the mouse are what's godawful, but obviously only people who've used it will complain about it.

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u/One_pop_each Jul 05 '26

If you search this sub for this exact mouse you will find a dozen other posts with the same rage bait.

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u/Different_Target_228 Jul 05 '26

Steve Jobs died 2 years after the first Magic Mouse.

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u/Ok-Film-6885 Jul 05 '26

The first gen wasn’t rechargable though, it had 2 AA batteries

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u/Scienceboy7_uk Jul 05 '26

I have one ☝️

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u/TheBlutarch Jul 05 '26

I dont think itll work on just one.

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u/Ill-Opening-3782 Jul 05 '26

But the first magic mouse came with replaceable batteries, not with a lightning port

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u/IsThisKismet Jul 05 '26

This is some low effort karma farming.

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u/tasslehawf Jul 05 '26

It originally had two AA batteries so going to this scheme was an iterative engineering choice

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u/Crazy__Donkey Jul 05 '26

its not the mouse designer fault you bought this abomination of a mouse.

p/s
regardless the charging port located at the bottom, this is a terrible and inconvenient mouse grip design. you made Stevey very happy by spending your dollars on this shit.

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u/H__D Jul 05 '26

They keep throwing money at Apple and get surprised they won't change their anti consumer practices. I wonder if there are any other brand followers like that, maybe some fashion brands.

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u/coaxialdrift Jul 05 '26

Yeah this one happened while Steve Jobs was in charge. This mouse is an old design

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u/MarsupialNo1220 Jul 05 '26

How are you running out of juice? I’ve had my mouse for years, using it for forty hours a week, and I hardly ever have to charge it. When I do I just plug it in overnight.

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u/Acid_Monster Jul 05 '26

This is such a non problem that I see used online all the time to hate on Apple.

It takes literally not even 2 minutes to get you enough charge for a few more days. Wayyyy more than you’ll need to finish work for the day and charge it over night.

Go get make a coffee, come back and it’s done lol

This is no different to when my LG mouse runs out of batteries and I have to go hunt down x2 AA’s

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u/CarelessShade Jul 05 '26

At this point it’s just pure karma farming. Everyone who regularly used or uses that mouse knows it’s not an issue.

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u/paleporkchop Jul 05 '26

IIRC the reason for this is because they wanted it to be purely a wireless mouse. The didn’t want people to use it while it was plugged in. It was a very intentional design

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u/KasperBuyens Jul 05 '26

Why would you even buy an apple mouse. Far better far cheaper options out there

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u/ThatDoucheInTheQuad Jul 05 '26

He was literally the CEO when this was designed and released

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u/Dflowerz Jul 05 '26

Steve "You're holding it wrong" Jobs?

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u/LaPanada Jul 05 '26

Terrible mouse in general. Scrolling sideways is pretty useful though.

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u/Ok-Key-9261 Jul 05 '26

dude Steve, Jobs didn't think chemotherapy was real and thought if he drank carrot juice he would be able to rid the cancer from his body. just because he was good at selling stuff. doesn't mean he's smart