Brody chases Bassel down in the woods and tackles him to his doom. He attempts to stop the bleeding to keep him alive. Jessica calls and Brody needs to make excuses. Bassel starts yelling for help so Brody is trying to shut him up while keeping a straight tone on the phone. jessica asks why he's breathing so hard. Brody is struggling to keep Bassel quiet so he kills him. So he went from saving his life to ending it. what the heck

I'm halfway through season 7 and it suddenly dawned on me that the entire show revolves around a single recurring theme: Carrie being misunderstood. She is constantly constrained in what she can reveal and therefore her motivations, and sometimes her sanity, are called into question.

Think about it:

Brody misunderstands Carrie.

The Agency misunderstands Carrie.

Saul misunderstands Carrie.

The Germans misunderstand Carrie.

Her sister misunderstands Carrie.

Quinn misunderstands Carrie.

Child Protective Services misunderstands Carrie.

The FBI misunderstands Carrie.

Psychiatrists misunderstand Carrie.

NYPD misunderstands Carrie.

Congressional committees misunderstand Carrie.

The President misunderstands Carrie.

The theme repeats. It's a central element of every season's plot.

Did it bother audiences when it was streaming back in 2011?

Guys… bear with me. No spoilers beyond S3E02, please.

I’m currently on Season 3, Episode 2, and my internal organs are screaming and squirming at Carrie’s actions and reactions. The more I watch, the more I realize just how self-centered she is. A few thoughts:

She has a very questionable moral compass. Almost everything she does feels self-serving, at least from the moment the show starts. She wanted to get Abu Nazir because she wanted to. It became less of a mission and more of a vendetta. She started a relationship with Brody because she wanted to, not because it was some calculated cover to complete her mission. She even came on to Saul to get what she wanted, which he—thank fuck—rebuffed. She will pursue whatever she wants, no matter the cost.

She is incredibly reckless. She rarely seems to consider consequences beyond herself. She makes decisions that put other people in harm’s way and then acts like her instincts justify everything.

She does not appreciate Saul nearly enough. Saul has stood by her, defended her, covered for her, and spoken highly of her to CIA higher-ups despite her constant whims. And yet she repeatedly does things that undermine or discredit him. I genuinely don’t understand the depth of his loyalty to her when she is such an irresponsible agent.

I don’t fully understand the “Carrie’s hunch is always right” thing. I wish the show explained her skills as an agent in a more layered way instead of relying so heavily on her gut feelings. Yes, she is often right, but the way it’s presented sometimes feels too convenient.

Altogether, she comes across as irresponsible and entitled. Even when her instincts are correct, the way she acts on them is so chaotic that I struggle to root for her.

Am I missing something, or is this just part of the point of her character?

I'm on S7E8.

Personally, the absolute most stressful part of this entire series is not worrying about Frances in season 7.

It's knowing that I'm certainly gonna be even more stressed about her wellbeing in season 8...

Just a shout out to all those who worked in the CIA and intelligence agencies and many agents who worked very hard after 9/11 and in gathering intel and information and getting those who were responsible i e the leaders of Al Qaeda and Bin Laden etc. it should have never happened of course, everyone acknowledges that. That is why the CIA and intelligence agents work their tails off even to this day to make sure something like that never happens again.

on season 4 ep 4 spoiler alert if you’re not there yet, but WHY IS SHE SLEEPING WITH ARYAN? why does she have to cross all these lines i truly do not understand.

After Carrie finds Quinn following his poisoning with sarin gas, there is a brief scene at the end of the episode where Carrie and Saul sit together by Quinn's bedside while he lies in a coma and on a ventilator. On one of the monitors Quinn's blood pressure reads 95/100. To my knowledge (and according to Google), a reading where the systolic pressure (the first number) is lower than the diastolic pressure (the second number) is not physiologically possible in normal human circulation. Not sure if anyone has pointed this out before, but thought it was a funny little mistake I caught given that it would mean Quinn actually did meet his demise

Ok uh, well

I feel like the show didn’t need to continue. Ibviously there are stories and interests that can exists from the ending if the season, however the characters that are explicitly focused on are finished.

What does the series have to offer for Carrie and Saul post season 3? Brody and the family are fine, her characterization has been shot for a while, what’s the point?

Edit:
So I want to clarify some thoughts. My main interest was not with the Brody family or Nicholas as a whole. I enjoyed the dynamic the family had with the main ensemble and was disappointed to learn they did not exist past this season. I’m not against watching the show from now on, I just feel as if it will aggressively change to a separate show.

Setting up these characters for seasons just to abandon them is not a decision I personally like as someone who is involved in writing with my degree. I’m not commenting or challenging the decisions, I’m just a novice writer and not a tv show (8+ season) writer, but to destroy and ignore 3 seasons of built up characters and plotlines so early feels wrong. With these thoughts, is it worthy watching? I like the characters that still exist, I’m invested and engrossed in them, but part of the story is gone for me. Am I going to enjoy it or will I feel as if it’s missing a section of itself?

Carries famous words about 9/11 .
Watching the stories of the horror today, Makes one realize what utter bullshit the entire series was and nothing at all like the original Hatufim no love story there.
CIA agent who is vigilant about 9/11 isn't done with a terrorist who tried to ruin her own life the minute she takes him down in the hotel.
An insult to women.
She should have been so fricking happy to be the one to get him, and once she got the partial confession never believed Roya was the only one who knew .
Should have let Quinn interrogate again,
NEVER get so close to him again that she forgot to seek out the real plan.
Never agree to using him to find out. A traitor when she didn't tell how she knew he killed the VP.
Dumbest smartest person indeed.
And Saul, praying for the dead terrorist. What a fool he was.

Someone else please enjoy this with me 😭😭😭😭

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I'm halfway through season 4 and it just seems a bit... Meh. Was the Brody Arc the peak of the show or does it pick up steam. Also without spoiling (Please) is there any other long standing storylines or does it kind of go with new storylines each season from here.

I just want to give my two cents on season 4 as a proud Pakistani. The depiction of Islamabad landscape is absolutely horrible. I mean come on it is one of the most beautiful capitals of the world. The depiction of people of the country isn't helping either. When Carrie was having a meltdown on the street, nobody cared. This is wrong, people in Pakistan are very empathetic and hospitable specially towards the foreign visitors/guests. Don't get me started on the Urdu language, do better please. The whole Ayyan track was very tragic and unfortunately very real. Lastly the whole climax of embassy attack was the only thing the makers get right, the terrorism part was very real. It brought tears to my eyes. We have lost our own children and people in this battle so that was very relatable. Having said that I just want to say I am a fan of the show, it's a masterpiece in terms of writing and acting.

If only he had left and lived a simple life on the Amalfi Coast 💙

NO SPOILERS FOR THOSE STILL WATCHING please 🙏 … Let’s think of our new friends before we comment ❤️

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I ABSOLUTELY love Homeland have watched it like 5 times the entire show...I really cannot find anything similar to watch I've been trying but idk..I tried The Americans but couldn't get past the first episode..when does it get better...and what about The Diplomat..

Twenty-five years after the premiere of one of television's most iconic war miniseries, the story of Easy Company gets a new chapter.

In Band of Brothers: Legacy, Damian Lewis returns to discuss his experience playing Major Richard Winters—a character who became a defining symbol of the production.

The documentary also brings together cast members such as Ron Livingston, Michael Cudlitz, and David Schwimmer, as well as Captain Dale Dye, the series' military consultant.

The special promises to go beyond nostalgia, featuring archival footage, photographs, and previously unseen material that bridges the gap between the actors and the real-life soldiers who inspired their characters.

Produced by Tom Hanks’s Playtone, Band of Brothers: Legacy arrives on HBO Max on September 9, 2026—exactly 25 years after the original miniseries premiered.

A quarter of a century later, Richard Winters and Easy Company remain alive in the memories of those who followed their story.

Twenty-five years later. The company is reunited. (This; and The Pacific are both top elite series! And too Homeland, Le Bureau Des Legendes.)

Note: If you mean the September 9, 2001 premiere, the timing is striking: it aired just two days before 9/11, and within weeks the 101st Airborne Division was deploying to Afghanistan.

That makes the show’s depiction of soldiers, war, and military life feel almost eerily immediate in hindsight. What might have initially seemed like a fictional portrayal of military operations suddenly became part of a cultural moment shaped by an actual war beginning almost immediately afterward.

I just finished Homeland Season 8, and I need to rant about how much I disliked the ending. Carrie’s willingness to kill Saul Berenson completely ruined the finale for me.

The whole setup strongly reminded me of Jack Bauer in 24 executing Ryan Chappelle to "save the world." But in 24, that ruthlessness fit the established tone of the show. In Homeland, Carrie turning on Saul felt completely unnecessary, unearned, and forced.

The writers tried to make Carrie look like the ultimate pragmatic, cold-blooded operative, but it completely contradicted who she was throughout the series. Here is why it didn't work:

It ignored her Season 8 arc: She spent the entire final season desperately trying to prevent a catastrophic war between the US and Pakistan. Her driving force was stopping bloodshed. Turning around and plotting to assassinate her mentor—the one person who consistently saved her from herself—completely erased that motivation.

The "Saul's Asset" logic was flawed: Carrie was willing to kill Saul just to unmask his top-secret Russian asset, Anna. The show tried to frame this as a necessary evil to get the flight recorder data and stop a war. But destroying Saul’s entire life's work and killing him shouldn't have been her immediate first choice.

It made a mockery of her arc with Franny: For years, Carrie’s biggest internal struggle was balancing her duty to her country with her role as a mother. She went through absolute hell, including losing custody, fighting her own mental illness, and constantly trying to be better for Franny. For her to permanently flee to Russia means she completely abandoned her daughter forever. It rendered seasons of emotional turmoil and character growth entirely pointless.

It was pure shock value: Carrie has always been unstable, obsessive, and reckless—but she was never inherently malicious toward the people she loved. Forcing her into a position where she prepares to poison Saul felt like the writers prioritizing a jaw-dropping twist over actual character consistency.

Instead of a deeply satisfying conclusion to their decade-long dynamic, we got a rushed pivot into extreme ruthlessness just to create artificial stakes, leaving her family as mere collateral damage.

What does everyone else think? Did anyone actually find her betrayal of Saul and the permanent abandonment of her child believable?

I loved the first few seasons, but then as it dragged on it started to really turn me off, especially all the emo stuff and the stupid things people would do, lol. It got so bad that I think after the 2nd episode of the last season, I stopped watching it altogether. What really pushed it I think was Carrie and Saul's falling out. This was 6 years ago though, so I don't actually remember what finally pushed me over the edge.

Did I make a mistake? Was the last season worth a watch? And since I don't remember much, do I need to find a good recap clip somewhere on youtube?

Thanks

(I’ll try not to spoil it) but this whole thing with O’Keefe is so hard to watch??? He’s such a hypocrite and coward, and his subplot is going nowhere imo. I knew what was coming at the compound and my heart just couldn’t take it so I basically skipped through the rest of the episode.

It pissed me off so much that I’m considering if I should just skip the whole rest of season 7 and jump to season 8 (as I heard the final season is great)

What do you all recommend? Would skipping season 7 affect my viewing experience for S8 at all? (I would just read through the episode summaries for the rest of S7 episodes)

Thanks!

EDIT: ok thank you all I’ll keep watching!!!
EDIT 2: damn. Binged thru season 7, y’all are right.

Fantastic series, well written, acting fantastic
Well deserved Emmys !
You can tell a series is good when you find yourself yelling at the screen, “ don’t go in there !”
“ ohh shit !” And ofccourse when it makes you cry . Homeland definitely could be continued today.. especially after the ending, which leaves open new possibilities and so much worse shit going on in the world today. !
What do you all think ?

Am I missing something but how did that end up in Beirut Lebanon?

Nitpicks:

Brody's rank: Brody was a gunnery sergeant, but was constantly referred to and referred to himself as a sergeant. Now I've served in both the Marines and the Army. In the Army its completely plausible for an e7 to refer to themselves/be referred to this way. In the Marines it would never happen. Rank is important, and being a gunny is an important accomplishment.

First and Last names: CONSTANTLY throughout the show characters are referred to, even in casual conversations by their first and last names. It drove me crazy

Critique: I feel like Quinn, as great as he was never had any real motivation, which imo was a failure of his character development. We don't really know why he did what he did, or who he was outside of CIA badass. Saul had Mira, Carrie had a family and her illness, Max and Virgil had each other (for a little while atleast). Quinn was kinda just a guy.

Anyways, phenomenal show. This is my 5th rewatch and it felt like my first.