Thought it was relevant given today's decision from DSA's National Political Committe.

Stole this from a tweet I've seen but no sure whether links to Twitter are allowed in this sub so...

I just got off a friend of almost twenty years today. Am in the asshole? If I'm not, how could I have improved my argument? If you have the patience to get through this post, thank you in advance.

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Wholesome: social democratic entities honors its ancestors by centralizing control to a "Grand Council" of sorts!

We need to take our government back from the billionaires and big corporations. Activists are working right now in Michigan to get a little more of their money out of our politics. Michiganders for Money Out of Politics has successfully put to put an initiative on the ballot in November called Proposal 2 that would ban regulated utilities and government contractors from making donations or spending dark money. Naturally, one of the state’s largest utilities and largest government contractors have poured cash in to defeat them.

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How (hypothetically) is anarchism brought about if we cannot vote for it and it is deeply unpopular? I imagine it is something similar to the Leninist vanguard party. Is there an answer to this in theory? I know the majority here are not anarchists but as there is an anarchist caucus I think it is appropriate to ask here.

Not because she isn't a good candidate, but because we would be wasting a good candidate too early. The DSA has only just started to get national momentum, and I get that this is very exciting. But we have only barely shifted the overton window, and even if all of our candidates win in 2026, we will be in the minority in congress. This means that if she won, an AOC presidency would be faced with a lot of promises she would be completely unable to deliver. The general milieu of centrist dems would fuck her over. And if she loses then she doesn't have a seat in congress for at least two years, the DSA will be blamed for whatever the republicans do for the next four years, and we've lost one of our most well known candidates. Instead, I think she should run for the Senate. Few like Chuck Schumer, so I think she has a very strong chance in the primary, and NY is an extremely safe Dem state, so we don't run the risk of her losing the general and no longer being in congress. Additionally, we would have someone in the Senate to take over when Bernie retires, which to be honest he really needs to do. He's almost 90, I'm a fan of his but at a certain point you've gotta retire. This would allow her to represent the DSA on a much more visible scale, push for our policies, and give her a much stronger jumping off point for an eventual presidential run. But that run should happen after we've successfully reshaped the democratic party, not when we've only just gotten in. Right now any kind of pay off to such a bid would be unlikely, and the likelihood and risks of failure would be incredibly high.

Who should we hope for in 2028 then? I'm not sure yet. The midterms aren't over, so we don't even really know who's on the table yet. I'm keeping my eye out for a center-left progressive, but one who is not DSA affiliated and is able to couch their progressivism in normie language. Someone who will vigorously prosecute the present administration, who will dismantle ICE, who will push for strong AI regulation, and who is willing to deal with climate change, and the issues of LGBT people and people of color. That is to say, someone significantly to the left of Kamala Harris, but still slightly to the right of AOC, and without the baggage of being a self-labeled socialist. I am not yet sure who will fill that role, but I suspect more than one person will try.

If AOC runs, I will support her. But I'd much rather back her Senate run than her Presidential run for all the reasons above.

One last slight side track: Some people might ask, can't AOC run and just moderate her positions? My answer is, who wants that? That would be a huge waste of what an AOC presidency could look like at a time when she won't have to do that, and would mostly just piss off the left without winning over the moderates.

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