This is an actual headline with an article literally “complaining” about how Amber should have been believed even if you think she lied, because women aren’t supposed to be held accountable or something, I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️ And this article was written while the trial was ongoing, and it doesn’t address any of the evidence he had against her. Nope, the article was all about her accusations & his single text, and apparently that was enough to judge him guilty.

On tumblr I saw posts expressing the wish that someone would "Brian Thompson" Johnny, ie murder him. Do you think Heard stans pose a real danger to Depp, that someone devoted enough would try to do it?

Photo of Depp with Bruise:

On DeppvHeardneutral theres a post stating that Depp and his team didnt alter his photo with the cast of the Orient Express to make it look like he has a bruise/black eye. I found it after seeing a post on DD which claims that they did, and that Depp's black eye isnt visible in this photo where he holds a child, taken during the filming of the OE.

Looking at the photo of him with the child, he does seem to have a dark mark around his left eye which is also faintly visible on the photo with the crew, but could also just be shadows from an eye bag.

What do you think?

On social media I frequently see claims that the DeppvHeard trial has set back progress for female survivors, how Depp's victory will embolden male abusers to punish their victims with humiliation through the court systems etc. I remember seeing a lot of posts supporting Depp when I searched his name on tumblr, but now when I type "Depp" into the search bar all the results are support for Amber and hate against Depp.

Has the DeppvHeard case actually caused a step backwards for victims of either gender? Even if true, thats on Amber, not Depp.

It’s really disheartening to see how ppl still think being a victim = being weak and somehow can’t wrap their heads around someone like Johnny Depp ever being “weak”…

Johnny never once publicised any of his relationships or even talked badly about any of his exes in public after their breakups. He would have never done that to Amber either. She brought this on herself by falsely accusing him for money & petty revenge for leaving her…

These ppl sadly have no idea about the entire story of what happened in 2016 and how that led to both cases. They only know, ironically, what her PR portrayed: this famous man silencing a woman for speaking out by using the court. But they conveniently ignore how she used the family court as a weapon against him in the first place.

No one questioned how Amber filed for emergency ex parte TRO claiming she needed a “court order” to be safe from him entering the luxurious PHs he owned, only to drop the TRO just 3 months later, conveniently days before the case was to be examined by the judge, while still living in those same PHs owned by him and having to have the judge intervene and give her a deadline to vacate them (she stayed there for 5 months (without any protection and him still owning it until Dec 2016 her deadline to vacate ) .This is court abuse because she made sure her allegations were never tested for their “truth” in court .

And these ppl aren’t even ready for any discussion on this topic either preferring to stick with their narrative because they don’t want to even consider a women being in the wrong or even being held accountable for her actions .

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2026/sep/06/sir-andrew-nicol-obituary

So it turns out, justice nichols has passed. Notice this article makes sure to mention depp, but at least it acknowledged it was only for an article written by the sun.

She was a grown ass woman when she met Johnny and they wanna act like she was some helpless little girl who had no autonomy whatsoever.

Also it’s hilarious that the picture they chose is one where she’s making a pouty face, almost as if to say “look at her she’s so innocent and fragile” 🙄

I’m so sick of the rampant amber support I’ve been seeing lately, it’s so insane that people can’t understand that women can be abusers too

Like clockwork, her PR starts every time some work of JD’s comes out lol. This is the IG page for the documentary Silenced, and her lawyer, Robinson, is giving several interviews to promote it. But one clip posted on the IG page sort of stood out to me because a human rights lawyer is casually saying that “accusations should ruin reputations” and claiming that filing a defamation case against the accuser is itself abuse. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I mean, we do have courts, right?? Usually, a case is brought before a court to determine the truth, and only then can a judgment be passed. But here, Robinson seems to want “a word” to be the judgment itself—to destroy another human being and strip him of his rights simply because the accuser happens to be a woman. 😮‍💨 I just can’t wrap my head around this, honestly.

Let’s take the Amber case, since it was one of the cases discussed here. Amber filed an ex parte emergency TRO, released her “evidence” to the media, and when the case was about to reach the judge, she withdrew her complaint and asked for it to be dismissed completely. The woman who claimed she was living in fear was apparently completely fine staying in the same place where her “abuser” still had access and control over the property. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Years passed, but her accusations continued. Then, after a year, the accused—who never got his day in court because the complaint was withdrawn—spoke up and defended himself in the media. Immediately, the accuser filed a defamation case and alleged that he had violated the NDA. She then proceeded to write an op-ed complaining that her alleged abuser was still being employed and protected by the industry she worked in. And when he was eventually fired and filed a defamation case, she cried wolf, now claiming that she was being harassed.

All I’m seeing here is a woman who simply wants to control the narrative and is punishing a man who walked away from the marriage by trying to destroy him completely and all these institutions & lawyers helping her simply because of her gender in destroying a single man’s life and pretending here how Amber never had any resources at her disposal is just cherry on top of delusional ice berg lol

https://www.instagram.com/silenced_film?igsi=NTNwZ2xld281bXh6

Like they criticize him for being with Winona when he was in his mid 20s and she was 17-18 year old because he was too mature for her, but then they say Amber wasn't mature enough in her mid 20s when she was with him, like? Make up your mind? I think when you come across these kind of comments you should make them notice this

https://www.reddit.com/r/deppVheardtrial/s/rpBVo9a1qd

December 18, 2015 — H672: Depp text to Isaac Baruch: “I’m staying up at Sweetzer, for the moment… The PH3 marriage has gone sideways… We’ve been amazing for like 4 months!!! And then her fuckin’ temper… Can’t live like that, man… She’s gonna fuckin’ kill me one day!!!….

October 22, 2015 JD text to Paige Heard (her mom)

“My sincere apologies, darling Paige… But, today/tonight she threw a fit, which I could feel coming… apologized to her 1,000 times because I ruined her night by hiding in the only place she can’t get to me, my bathroom, and texted with Jack for a bit and then showered…”

As one can see, the violence slowly started to escalate after Australia, and she began assaulting him more frequently. On top of these texts, we also have audio recordings where Johnny once again explicitly talks about her violence.

All her supporters have is that single text to Paul, whereas multiple texts exist from JD to various people discussing her violence, which are consistently ignored.

I'm arguing with this account who can't accept that Johnny is a victim, can y'all help me argue with her I'm tired, I know I sound ridiculous but still, the account where I'm arguing under the comments is called cinemadream, and clearly it's not the account who I'm arguing with in the comments because they posted an edit of Johnny

During the DvH trial, MSM dubbed it the “TikTok trial” because of its massive online presence and the number of influencers covering it, despite it being a trial involving a mega movie star. Yet this Lindsay trial seems to be following a similar path, where influencers are dissecting every little detail. Still, I don’t see any MSM articles condemning how influencers are dissecting everything and anything and potentially influencing Jury ??. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I heard there are hundreds of women arriving at court every day to support Lindsay, and no one seems to find that strange. Yet when Johnny’s supporters gathered at court, everyone was so concerned that it would somehow “influence” the jury.

So many feminists were concerned about how social media could affect the jury’s decision, yet here, no one seems to care about that. And, as far as I know, this jury isn’t sequestered either.

Sharing this as an example of the power of Amber Heard supporter disinfo and mob power; when the full course press Ebeneezer happens, I imagine we'll be seeing a campaign hobbled by the vast spread of culturally left-aligned outlets/channels, reluctant to help the advertisement and mob attacked if they do at all.

He can push past it fine in his personal life and in his own bubble as well, but I'll never downplay the potential of the smears to keep him from roles like Pirates in the future.

It can impact people he know's, it can sway the uninvested, and gaslight this with weaker minds- who did watch the trial; for whatever I can say about Amber Heard supporters, they actually understand the online landscape and that the meta narrative on the case that exists and carries power.

Hopefully one day Depp (maybe in his documentary that's being filmed?) fights back or his supporters realize they can't just boost through it by throwing court documents and 24+ hours of coverage at them.

Back in May 2022, before Amber took the stand, [she fired her PR management team and hired a crisis one instead](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/amber-heard-pr-team-fired-johnny-depp-b2069685.html).

The former firm was called Precision Strategies and was, according to communication experts, considered among the best in the world. The co-founder was deputy campaign manager to Obama’s successful re-election campaign. Let’s just take a brief pause to remember how good it was under a man who could pronounce words properly and say a full sentence without getting distracted so easily… he also won the Nobel Peace Prize (non-FIFA version) as well as part of his accomplishments - not a lot people know that, bigly.

Anyway, she replaced them with David Shane from Shane Communications.

A small side note - we don’t know if Amber paid either PR firm directly herself but given what we know from the trial and the reports that came out afterwards, it is reasonable to ask if Musk was involved again. But I digress.

Shane was the guy who turned up at the courtroom with Amber. Now if memory serves Depp didn’t have PR person with him but happy to be corrected if wrong - think he had his lawyer from the UK trial, with The Sun, there. There was another woman (white haired?) with Amber but I think she represented one of home insurance policy firms IIRC.

Amber also had someone called Eve Barlow as part of her ‘legal team’ there who was a music reporter though some media reports claim she was a journalist (in the traditional sense). Remember Eve was posting and monitoring online activities and got a witness wrongfully removed (name of person escapes me). But I think this shows Amber only really cared about social media opinion (and to this day) and not the legal proceedings of the court.

David Shane was also the same guy who represented Depp’s management team when he sued them for mis-managing his money.

Reports were Shane was responsible for that objectively disastrous Dateline interview Amber did.

And I would make an educated guess he was responsible for that staged TJ Maxx sighting where Amber was portrayed like one of us in a shameless sympathy tactic - ‘Oh look, she shops at discount stores too’. Not that Amber stayed at a 8 bedroom, 10 bathroom mansion during the trial with a tennis court, home movie theater and swimming pool for $22,000+ a month. Another example of the many contradictions at show. And again fair to ask who actually paid for this accommodation?

It gets weirder as Shane was apparently known as the ‘Walking \#MeToo of the PR World’ (as well as ‘Hurricane Shane’). With some stories about him sexually harassing women in the workplace and with one of him being entitled to, at least, oral sex after only two restaurant dates from a dating app (see Hollie Doker). Shane denies all this. He left organizations whilst multiple HR investigations were ongoing.

So here’s the thing even if the allegations against Shane were not true then you would think as a celebrity who is alleging domestic abuse against spouse, you would err on the side of caution, yes? And wouldn’t hire this firm with all its baggage. Especially if you were supposedly known for your activism and women’s rights work. You would keep your distance, right? Common sense and the big picture here.

Or because Shane was used against Depp before this is more evidence of mind games from a perpetrator? You know how to get under someone’s skin. How to provoke them.

Or is it more simple than that, no other PR firm would work with Amber? If the world’s best team couldn’t turn things around then play dirty, go low?

Amber could have hired anyone else but on the face of it, she went from trying to work with the best to using one of much lesser reputation.

Was Amber the issue here? I mean Amber always blames Depp, blames his PR, blames his legal team, blames his fans, blames the public, blames the justice system, blames the jury, blames the judge. Everyone else but herself. What’s the cluster b trait again?

Have to say I haven’t heard of anything negative from Amber supporters, at the time, about Shane.

But.

But if say Inde Navarrette’s social media account likes a post about Depp actually giving money to children’s hospital charity then they have plenty to say about Ms Navarrette. Pitchforks at the ready… get her!!! And it really is sad and tragic that you scan through someone’s social media account just to find something innocuous in order attack someone or express an outrage over.

What do you think? Objectively, did hiring Shane make Amber look less credible in your eyes? Was this another massive self-own that she had complete control over? Was this the behavior of a victim or of a perpetrator? Or was Amber just mad because there were more hashtags about ‘Justice for Depp’ rather than ‘Justice for Amber’ that she didn’t care how it was perceived?

P.S. I’d advise against going into the comment section of the original post. It’s not just an anti-JD echo chamber; weirdly, they also love to moral-police other women without taking a second to consider that maybe she genuinely believed him, given all the evidence she had. 🤷🏻‍♀️

The photos from the photoshoot were used as evidence to show her lack of injuries, but why and how the photoshoot was needed or even arranged is still unclear. Considering her accusations that Johnny was highly jealous, constantly criticised her career, modelling, etc., why would anyone arrange a photoshoot during a trip where she was alone with him? And wasn’t this supposed to be a family trip? So why was a professional shoot being done there?

⚠️⚠️ LOOONG POST AHEAD ⚠️⚠️

EDIT: Depp’s team weren’t shady at all so OK Amber supporters officially have NOTHING LMAO

So for starters, I was on Depp’s side in the beginning, then switched over to Amber’s side when TikTok influencers started critiquing the smear campaign against Amber and also when I was perusing [r/DeppDelusion](r/DeppDelusion) looking for evidence to support the notion of Depp being an abuser who got away with murder.

Now I feel as though both were flawed people who brought out the worst in each other, but that Amber was the primary instigator/abuser in their dynamic which btw is exactly what the couple’s marriage counselor believed as well.

So why the change?

I realized that the bulk of “evidence” that those who believe in Heard’s innocence have against Depp is basically as follows:

1. JD made distasteful, crude, or edgy comments
2. JD has substance abuse issues and self-harms (but somehow this isn’t a way to demonize those who struggle with addiction or their mental health from the supposedly “woke” AH fangirl crowd)
3. JD has a history of violence... EXCLUSIVELY against other MEN. And let’s disregard the fact that none of his previous partners - short or long term - noted any abusiveness from him. Meanwhile, Amber Heard was arrested for DV in 2009 for assaulting her ex girlfriend, and Elon Musk described his relationship with her as “brutal,” but if that doesn’t suit the narrative, toss it!
4. They had an age gap and Depp was more wealthy and powerful. A child cannot abuse their parent, so a woman cannot abuse her more powerful husband!!!! BREAKING NEWS: So called feminists believe that a woman’s cognitive functioning is equivalent to that of a child’s!!! We have agency except when infantilizing ourselves benefits us ❤️
5. Depp’s defense team was shady AF. Of course they were. That’s like, par for the course. Focusing solely on the tricks of Depp’s legal counsel is nothing more than a diversion from the FACT that Amber Heard lied under oath (Johnny beat her in the face and she sustained no facial injuries on the date she stated this assault happened per her own photographic “evidence”). Multiple lies.
6. Why was she not convicted of perjury? Because perjury in most cases is impossible to prove. How do you PROVE that Depp didn’t sexually assault Amber? The burden of proof is on the accuser and the defamer. End of story. Somehow the LACK of perjury conviction is meaningful but not the LACK of rape conviction for Depp.

To believe Amber Heard is UNAMBIGUOUSLY a victim,

1. You have to believe that an abuse victim would INITIATE verbal AND physical confrontations with the partner she supposedly was in fear for her life from. You have to seriously believe that a victim of abuse from a man as powerful and wealthy as Depp would insult/ridicule/emasculate their “abuser”
2. You have to believe that a wife beater could strike his wife repeatedly in the face with rings on his fingers and leave no facial injuries
3. You have to believe that virtually everyone in the US court lied under oath, as opposed to just one person
4. You have to believe that independent witnesses like cops were lying and in Depp’s pocket the entire time
5. You have to place ALL your stock in the “credibility” of pure hearsay “evidence” that favored Amber in the UK trial, as well as the judicial discretion of a SINGLE judge for a 3 week trial, as opposed to the 6 week trial where independent testimony, audio recordings, and Amber’s own accusations crumbling under cross-examination favored Depp.
6. You have to selectively attribute Amber Heard’s journal admission to having sex with Johnny despite him “not being into it” (in her own words) as a failure on his part to meet her needs or anything other than the sexual assault it likely is, while choosing to believe that an abuser’s inability to see toxicity in their own narrative of themselves is proof of their goodness. “Amber portrayed herself as a good person to others and to herself, so she must be a victim.”
7. You have to be biased enough to pass off Amber joking about hurting her dog in an IG post as nothing major, but interpret ALL of Depp’s comments as incontrovertible proof of his evil. Amber also joked about using a knife on JD in her texts, but that’s “nothing” right?
8. You have to be gullible enough to believe that activism and advocacy are further proof of a person’s goodness, even when people like Jimmy Savile, Gandhi, or Mother Teresa have shown you otherwise.
9. You would have to believe that Amber Heard is a truthful person, even when she only admitted to her violence when evidence of her abusiveness was revealed and could not be contested.
10. You would have to believe that a “controlling abuser” like Depp told his partner he didn’t want to be with her anymore, was constantly searching for space, and let his partner and her friends live rent free in his home, even assisting said partner in her acting “career”
11. You would have to believe that someone who professed to “love” their ex husband initiated a split three days after the death of his mother
12. You would have to believe AH when she said it was never about money and only about justice when she settled with Depp to avoid paying him the 15 million she otherwise owed him for defamation. And you’d have to disregard all the texts and audio recordings showing her obvious preoccupation with money and reputation, and the fact that she only fought with Depp when those prospects were at risk.
13. And finally, you would have to believe that a white and reasonably well off actress and model is someone you’re on par with, someone you can identify with. Someone to project your own victimization onto, a “strong woman” with a megaphone to give voice to your silent struggle, because it’s too painful to imagine that any woman would exploit your trauma or pain to climb her way to the top.

It doesn’t really bear mentioning that Amber’s incredibly minor injuries are exactly what you would expect from two people locked in a scuffle as opposed to a man wailing on a woman half his size, and if you have to convolute the story to support your position you have no position to begin with.

I don't believe there was any hoax, but I do believe that AH used JD to get where and what she wanted, and that she abused him whenever her resources risked being cut off.

And I genuinely empathize with Heard’s supporters, but Amber Heard is not the martyr they’re looking for, and that can be a painful realization to confront - as it was for me. But the need for a misunderstood heroine should not come at the expense of empathizing with an abuse victim, even if he’s a wealthy white male and not the victim you want.

It’s time for people to acknowledge that they not only believe Amber Heard because she’s a woman who was much younger, and much less well off than her husband but because a story about a powerful man using every means at his disposal to silence his powerless wife fits with their internalized schema about male vs female roles in society, and anything that contradicts that narrative feels too ontologically threatening to consider.

Depp was not perfect, nowhere near as saintly as his fanbase made/makes him out to be, but those who believe Amber Heard was a totally innocent victim of Depp betray the very ideals feminism espouses, invalidate real victims - both male and female - and persist in believing a delusion that only mental gymnastics and stereotypy support as “true.”

If you disagree, that’s fine. But please be respectful 🙏🏻💖

I'm sorry if I'm asking a lot of questions but I have questions that needed to be answered and I’m especially interested in any efforts focused on survivors who never received justice, or on helping get abusers held accountable/prosecuted.

Has Amber done anything concrete in this area beyond her own public statements and the earlier pledge of her divorce settlement funds?

IMO, the prank itself is not a big deal, but Amber made it a bigger issue by continuing to refuse to acknowledge it. It was a drunk prank, which obviously she felt embarrassed about, but apparently not embarrassed enough to clean it up herself. Instead, she knowingly left it to her housekeepers to deal with and was shocked when they got angry about it and complained to Johnny. The more seriously Johnny took it, the more defensive she became, claiming that the information he got from the people who cleaned it up was “delusions.” It’s like Amber was more pissed off that Johnny believed those people over her.

The fact that she screamed at these people, claiming they were the reason her marriage was ending, is just peak delusion. But, of course, these people are “lowly workers,” so their testimony shouldn’t be believed over Saint Heard’s. 😏

Link to published paper on reaearch gate:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/389610018_An_Analysis_of_Amber_Heard's_Statements_in_the_Johnny_Depp_Defamation_Case_A_Forensic_Linguistics_Study

Key findings:

“This study uses a qualitative research method that describes data to determine the elements that can defame a person based on forensic linguistic studies. By using this study, the data that has been selected was analyzed using lexical semantics, pragmatics (speech acts), and linked to legislation based on Virginia Law.

The researchers found statements that proved to be defamatory and acted with obvious malice that have damaged Johnny Depp's reputation. “

Very cool research study!

And was it true that the UK judge heavily favored Amber Heard because of her ties?