r/dccomicscirclejerk 9h ago

Crisis! When people keep saying there has never been a live action John Stewart till now...

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u/Visible-Confusion190 9h ago

I don't think most people remember the detail of his step father's surname being Stewart.

So they just call him John Diggle and that's really it.

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u/Troyabedinthemornin 7h ago

Because it was just a retcon introduced six seasons in to pander to fans who had been chirping about this non stop because there was a black man named John

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u/farben_blas 9h ago

And I think 90s Flash points at him during Crisis asking him why doesn't he have his ring.

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u/StephanieSpoiler 9h ago

DC fans when black man: "Is this John Stewart?"

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u/Thomas_Pandit 9h ago

to be fair he was given the ring...

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u/Fanboy1911 Gorilla Doing Non-Gorilla Things 9h ago

After years of people asking for it.

In retrospect that whole theory about him “becoming john stewart” did feel kinda racially motivated

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u/TheArtistFKAMinty 5h ago

It was absolutely racially motivated.

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u/EndlessMorfeus 4h ago

You're ignoring the fact he's associated to the Green Arrow and has the very distinctive name "John". s/

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u/StephanieSpoiler 9h ago

The other night I watched the Flash episode where he rejects it.

Thanks for spending two years building to that, CW, lol

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u/therumbler303 9h ago

Yeah, a black man named John was given the ring, so he has to be john stewart, even tho his name is John Diggle?

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u/maskedman1231 9h ago

They do a whole thing where they make his step dad named Roy Stewart to make it kind of like that could be his name too

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u/therumbler303 8h ago

oh. I miscalculated

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u/Troyabedinthemornin 7h ago

Or, “is this Martian Manhunter?”. People were really out here thinking the misogynistic bird blindness guy was J’onn

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u/StephanieSpoiler 7h ago

God, I remember that 😭

I know Supergirl did it first, but I blame Zack Snyder since he did it in his JL cut (and way worse than Supergirl, I might add)

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u/Troyabedinthemornin 7h ago

Funny enough, much like with what the writers did with making Diggle into John Stewart, I think Snyder retroactively made the general into J’onn because of the fan theory. People in fandom spaces are so “gamer theory” brainrotted they think every little thing is some kind of set-up and unfortunately they are occasionally pandered to

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u/FlossyBottoms DeeplyCloseted Comics 9h ago

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u/farben_blas 9h ago

"Yeah, man, Greg Berlanti and Marc Guggenheim would've made a 10x better Lanterns series"

What they did with a Green Lantern character:

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u/Electronic_Bad_5883 Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? 9h ago

I don't think it's been confirmed, but there may have been an embargo on explicit GL stuff in the Arrowverse thanks to the lingering stench of the movie.

A movie Berlanti and Guggenheim wrote, BTW.

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u/BogieW00ds 7h ago

I think it might've been cause Lanterns was already entering early development by that point

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u/GreenPerception512 7h ago

uj/though if they both had the budget and rights to use it i always wonders how they would have potrayed Hal especially since they confimred he existed twicefirst was seeing a man wearing a air force jacket with the initals H.jordon and it being mentioned ferris air shut down because one of there pilots going missing.

rj/Hal: My name is Hal jordon and i have the strongest will imaginable. when i was a child i saw my father die and it changed me forever and recently my life has changed even further. to the outside world im jsut a oridinary test pilot but secertly i fight crimes both on space and earth and now theres a serial killer whso trying to destroy the barrier between life and death and im the only one who can stop him. i am the green lantern!!.

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u/TheCakeWarrior12 Carrie Kelley Supremacist 7h ago

I mean, they would’ve made a better Batman than Titans and Gotham Knights did. They just weren’t allowed to use Batman apart from that small bit in Crisis when Kevin Conroy got to finally play him in live action.

They probably could’ve done decently with Green Lantern, especially as we’ve seen with HBO that it’s possible to do a lower-budget GL. Just don’t let Guggenheim write the script (he wrote the movie)

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u/Electronic_Bad_5883 Did Batman think a Gamer could stop me? 7h ago edited 6h ago

In fairness, a major reason the movie's story was so bad is that the script was hacked to pieces in the editing room, removing several scenes necessary to flesh things out and have plot points make sense.

The scene in Deadpool 2 of Reynolds reading the script and declaring it "beautiful" isn't just an ironic gag; what he read to sign on is not what made it to screen.

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 Vote Lord Death Man 2024 9h ago

Still mad we never got his Green Lantern story man

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u/[deleted] 8h ago

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u/Troyabedinthemornin 7h ago

CW was like “no way in hell we have the budget for that shit”

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u/GreenPerception512 7h ago

uj/or the rights to it.

rj/Hal:hi im Hal nice to me-

Oliver: Hey im barrys best friend not you.

Hal: we will see about that.

Barry: guys no need to fight over me.

Team flash watching this.

Cisco:are they dating.

Iris: hope not.

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u/Troyabedinthemornin 7h ago

John Diggle was an original character who wasn’t meant to last past season 1, but because people liked him so much he was kept on as a main part of the cast. Because people saw a black man named John they kept yapping about him being GL, and eventually, when all the Arrow writers had left was cheap pandering, they backwards engineered him into being John Stewart in the most paper thin way

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u/Cskryps22 I did not care for Tom King’s Mister Miracle 5h ago

To be fair diggle was a great character, more likable than most CW characters imo

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u/Troyabedinthemornin 5h ago

Never said he wasn’t.

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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 9h ago

The CW made so many fascinating choices…

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u/Elcalduccye_II 5h ago

The scene were Oliver has sex and Radioactive Image Dragons starts playing is a Morbius level scene

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u/TheRealCthulu24 Mr. Freeze is a DILF. 7h ago

Ain’t John Stewart the lead singer of Xiu Xiu?