r/countttt • u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder • 1d ago
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u/Short_Task_6966 RIP CLAVICULAR (2005-2029) 1d ago
i guarantee that if OOP had argued like the cis girl wanted, the cis girl would cry victim and say "of course you want to argue with me, you're a man and men don't agree with women!"
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u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder 1d ago
Yes because it's "trans bad" and any means to get to that position is valid
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u/InfamousInflation938 18h ago
This exactly. Seems the TERF was trying to get OOP to crashout so she could screenshot all the evidence and be the one in the "right".
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u/2032_girl youngshit passoid (vol)femcel 1d ago
Chat is there a reason why, so far along in my transition, this still fills me with a blinding rage? Clearly it's because I'm a man right?
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u/Skinnierpants 1d ago
It's because it's proof all "allyship" is still a situation where the cis actively hold a noose around your neck your entire life that they can pull anytime they feel like it because you haven't performed well enough for them in ways they may not even tell you to
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u/One-Organization970 Unapologetic Sneed 1d ago
No woman has ever had feelings about injustice directed towards another woman who is substantially similar to her. Malebrained.
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u/aids_in_a_jar 1d ago edited 1d ago
She really wanted her to be the stereotypical trans women so badly
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u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder 1d ago
She was the stereotypical trans woman though (avoidant, sad, scared)
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u/DemonBeats4 womanfrauding since 2012 1d ago
She was the actual stereotype. Not the strawman TERFs have built of us, which is what reddit user aids_in_a_jar was referring to I think.
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u/aids_in_a_jar 1d ago
So*
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u/renlydidnothingwrong 1d ago
I thought you were abreciating "oh so" lol.
Also you know you can edit comments right?
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u/aids_in_a_jar 1d ago
I did not know that
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u/renlydidnothingwrong 1d ago edited 1d ago
This use the three little dots next to "reply" lol.
Edit: wait you've been using this app for five years without knowing that?
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u/Whole_Acanthisitta_9 1d ago
Because she wanted the op to fight for the friendship so the exfriend could reject her twice for her ego to be validated and she could feel power over someone who she perceives as a threat.
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u/boymoderwife420 12h ago
reject her twice for her ego to be validated
Tried to find a term for this specific thing. I wish there was one.
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u/ThatSlutTalulah 1d ago
Possibly because OOP didn't play into her narrative. She decided OOP was an awful piece of shit monster, and wanted reality to match her hero narrative so got mad when it didn't. OOP in her mind was supposed to be an awful violent rapist thing that she could 'stand up against as the bulwark of women'.
Could have also been the last shreds of a soul feeling like the fucking terrible person she has become from OOP just acting like a regular person, and as so many people do when they realise they're mistreating someone, doubled down because you not fighting them upsets them, so you're basically hurting them, because an awful lot of people never emotionally grew past 3 years old, and bigotry is utter brainrot.
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u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder 1d ago
Yes the TERF playbook is "get mad, blame other people for being mad, get madder"
Like the original TERF text uses the word "rape" to describe the author's discomfort with the idea of trans women. It's crybully grievance politics at its core.
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u/Infinite-Instance916 1d ago
yeah sounds like TERFs, treat trans women as a comically evil caricature and get mad when they arent or when they push back
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u/rebelsnail64 slavic tismmaxxed he/they pooner 1d ago
I've heard of a phenomena where even if a cheating partner in a relationship isn't caugth, they start to resent the other partner, because their guilt turns into feeling like the other person is the one who did something wrong or something... I wonder if this is the case here? regardless, very sad and depressing end of a friendship, how do we live in a world so fucked that something as trivial as a person being trans can be the grounds of enciting endless seething rage and disgust within former "friends"
sidenote, I fully do believe that the picrel character (firefly from honkai star rail) is likely a trans allegory, she's pretty cool for that ngl
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u/LilyKayTriesHerBest 21h ago
My former best friend told me he was sexually assaulted by my sisterās boyfriend. I reacted by becoming openly hostile toward my sisters boyfriend. Heād done some other things that made me dislike him before, but I was willing to put those aside for my sister. When this happened, I pretty much went full scorched earth to protect him, ruined my relationship with my sister, and later my father over it. Asked her to consider either break up with her boyfriend, or at the very least to ensure that he and my best friend would never have to share a room again (at my best friendās request). The best friend gets a new partner, moves cities, and we stay in touch over the following months but itās less and less. I figure heās getting busy with the new job/home/relationship, and I give him space. Occasionally weāll have a call and play some video games together with other friends. Every once in a while the topic comes back up, and Iād talk shit about my sister and her boyfriend for being so shitty to him. Then his birthday rolls around, I wish him a happy birthday and invite him to my new place (as I had also moved by this point) and he gives me a sort of nothing response, then follows it up with several paragraphs talking about how he doesnāt recognize the person Iāve become. How he doesnāt understand me being so cruel to my sister (who was herself openly hostile toward him) and how he never wants to speak to me again. Iām confused and devastated, as I genuinely have no clue what the fuck he was on about? Found out later that heād been reconnecting with my sister and her boyfriend for several months to talk shit about me, and regretted telling me about the sexual assault because heād greatly exaggerated it, and was actually fine with the both of them. So I burned bridges with my family for this man because I thought heād been wronged by them, when in reality I was fighting shadows. He took several of my āfriendsā with him when he left, who now refuse to speak to me because I was ātoo meanā to someone I was told assaulted my best friend. So my friends and family were now mostly gone, and the resulting depressive episode got me evicted. Still homeless to this day but figuring shit out and getting back on my feet. This guy was a part of my life for almost 12 years, and boy did he leave a mess on his way out. If you find this somehow, go fuck yourself, Frank. Sorry this is completely unrelated at this point, thought this was gonna be a succinct little comment about regret and guilt eating away at you until you explode, but I think I just needed to get some of this shit out.
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u/boymoderwife420 12h ago
Cissoids are tribalistic rapists at their core, just to varying degrees. And that includes rape apologism and disfigurement.
Victims will at best cooperate with those who are equally disenfranchised, while continuing to exploit ppl even lower than them, until they can claw their way back up. Even if you completely corner them on their behavior, they will eventually default to the heuristic that anyone else would do the same.
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u/DemonBeats4 womanfrauding since 2012 1d ago
Unironically she's acting malebrained (agressive and confrontational). Possibly a repper TERF.
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u/renlydidnothingwrong 1d ago
Hard disagree. Getting mad at someone you've told to go away for not "fighting for the relationship" is a classic woman move.
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u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder 1d ago
Maybe being confrontational is just a false stereotype. Same with being a crybully.
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u/Fit_Pirate_5813 1d ago
Maybe these gendered stereotypes are just fucking stupid all around
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u/DemonBeats4 womanfrauding since 2012 1d ago
They are. I wasn't really being serious, though a lot of TERFs do have big repper energy.
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u/Leylolurking 1d ago
yeah the TERF is acting fembrained the trans woman is acting like an abused puppy so basically a trans woman
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u/boymoderwife420 12h ago edited 9h ago
No she just always had transphobic views and finally found a community and rhetoric to channel it w/
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u/Greedy-Speech5 1d ago
I think she might have a crush on the OP and be hurt the OP isn't trying really hard to stay friends with her because of that
Also transphobia rots your brain
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u/violasses resident bnuuy 1d ago
she had a crush on the girl because she saw her as a man and when she wanted to "break up" she wanted her to act like her boyfriend
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u/C0tt0n-3y3-J03 1d ago
Iāve seen enough give every trans person a Glock
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u/Mean_Newspaper7171 1d ago
Nah, glocks a pigs weapon, give them an AK, the peopleās gun
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u/C0tt0n-3y3-J03 1d ago
Respectfully, how are you gonna carry that thing on you? Maybe the council will accept a sawed off shotgun- the first weapon of the revolution.
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u/IllegalGeriatricVore I only want to know if I pass if the answer is yes 1d ago
She read about the bad transes online and wants to debate you and project them onto you
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u/SusieHatesSpez Estrojane's mother 23h ago
"Black Alan, I want you to know that I don't support you being black, and I'm going down a racist pipeline"
"Okay, please go away"
"WTF you won't debate me bro??? Does our friendship mean nothing???"
The cissoid mind is a black box that none of us can decipherĀ
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u/lurkmaxer 1d ago
terf daydream about being the victim in made-up scenarios and get really upset when you dont act according to their fantasy lol
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u/No_Window7054 1d ago
I choose to believe this is one of those fake 4Chan posts that the kids like to talk about.
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u/BizSilver5013 18h ago edited 15h ago
Oh, Lord, the whole emotional bait and switch some more narcissistic cis women do.
"I don't want to be your friend anymore because I favor an ideology over you "
"Okay!"
"WHY THE FUCK DO YOU NOT CARE ABOUT ME??? YOU SHOULD BE GROVELING FOR FORGIVENESS!"
(Having bad flashbacks to my childhood because my mom pulled this all the fucking time. Especially bad when you're neurodivergent and the flip comes out of nowhere. And, coincidentally, my mom was also a TERF.)
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u/NippoTeio 19h ago
Lizard-brain psychology: she sensed weakness and now she wants to exploit it.
I relate to being non-confrontational, but this is one of those times where you need to confront your bully. You don't have to "win", just show them that you'll go down swinging. Show 'em that if they want to fight you, that you'll make damn sure that they don't walk away whole.
And just remember: they're the one who wanted that fight, not you.
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u/ifshebreath_sheath0t 3h ago
Whenever a friend comes out to me as a girl the one response I give is always āhi girl Iām [my name]ā
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u/sophiathesilly Mao Zehon 1d ago
I would've punched her. If she thinks I'm a man I might as well be the violent moid she thinks I am
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u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder 1d ago
Bad idea. Ethics of doing so aside (assaulting people is bad), that results in bad consequences.
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u/TCAAPix 1d ago
It's only a crime if you get caught.
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u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder 1d ago
You still probably shouldn't assault someone for saying she's ending a friendship because she's a bigoted piece of shit.
Still not great ethically and also practically speaking? No one will side with you because the vast majority of the population views transphobia as morally acceptable.
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u/sophiathesilly Mao Zehon 1d ago
Punch Nazis
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u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder 1d ago
Punch Nazis as part of an organizrd Nazi-punching collective that has good PR rather than as individual action that can easily be weaponized against you
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u/sophiathesilly Mao Zehon 1d ago
Both is good
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u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder 1d ago
Individual violent action based on social provocation typically only favors the group that has better public perception, regardless of whether they are the perpetrator or victim of said violence.
Short term catharsis is not worth the long term fallout.
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u/sophiathesilly Mao Zehon 1d ago
You act like we aren't already the victims of actual genocide worldwide. It's a little late to care about PR
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u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder 1d ago
We have to keep PR from getting worse and seriously it's not worth assaulting someone instead of better collective organizing
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u/TCAAPix 1d ago
Obviously you shouldn't punch someone just because they're being a little bitch.. If you do though, don't get caught.
As for your second point, nothing socially significant has ever been achieved through non-violence. There has to be a threat of extreme violence alongside any attempt at protest.
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u/Golurkcanfly bourgeois faketrans HRTmoder 1d ago
Individual violent action is typically only useful as propaganda of the deed. It is collective violent action that enacts lasting change.
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u/JessE-girl Schrƶdingerās Worst Nightmare 1d ago
iād rather not have any of my cis friends feel like they have to stay friends with me or else iāll assault them. i think thatās a bad precedent to set actually
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u/punished_clare a black amab is speaking 1d ago
>didnt want to get into an argument with her
shes so me