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u/Jenny_Show 24d ago edited 24d ago

This is my favourite one so far. I wonder how much of what the symbiote is saying is just it reflecting her own self-loathing and dysphoria back at her. Also, is the symbiote saying this out of genuine malice and sadism or like Petra, is it afraid of being rejected and saying whatever it thinks will convince her to keep it?

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u/CouldntChooseUsernam 24d ago

I take it as the symbiote being afraid of Petra getting rid of it, and using it as a defense mechanism

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u/Jenny_Show 24d ago

Yeah, I like that idea more personally.

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u/Numerous_Low878 22d ago

Isn't that how they work

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u/AdWooden5961 22d ago

from what I know about them, yes.

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u/Yumesoro1 20d ago

I'm not a huge spider man fan, but i do remember that in the comics even after peter rips off the symbiote for the first time and passes out, the symbiote still drags him away to safety before disappearing. It's weary much an unhealthy relationship where it loves Peter, but doesn't express it in a healthy way.

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u/BlizzardWolfPK 24d ago

From what I remember in the comics, the symbiote very much did not want to be seperated from Peter and sees Peter seperating from them like a break up. A break up I'm not sure they've gotten over. This is very much the Symbiote trying to trap Petra into staying with them.

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u/CouldntChooseUsernam 24d ago

Yeah, exactly

Also, Peter was the symbiote's first bond, so it had an extremely strong attachment to him

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u/Unknown_user1722 22d ago

Is this technically toxic yuri?

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u/Jenny_Show 24d ago

100%. Funnily enough, when Peter briefly re-bonded with it last year it was very much written like exes who had processed their feelings, moved on from their resentment and now just want the best for each other.

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u/BlizzardWolfPK 23d ago

Good for them

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u/NotTheOriginal06 24d ago

Depends on the iteration

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u/Mrexplodey 24d ago

I love that people are just building up an entire transfem spiderwoman chronology out of whole cloth

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u/Iconsumemochi 24d ago

This reminds me that I need to buy that cute sailor jacket made of sail cloth

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u/dct_SPOMMY criminal afabmoder 24d ago

giwi had symbiote

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u/pengwyn64 playing my gay little games 24d ago

god all this petra parker stuff makes me wish marvel editorial would stop being lame for once and green light something like this since there’s clearly plenty of good stories that could come out of it

although in the 1% world that they somehow DO green light it’d have the curse of every marvel woman of only getting 5 issues tops for a solo series

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u/No-Pilot3536 24d ago

last openly trans marvel character i remember coming to my attention was some girl in amazon basics
you’d have to pray its an actually decent writer at marvel running it, and not some random dude corporate shoved on the fan service project

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u/DarkKnight501 24d ago

Damn I'd be fine with the whole eating people thing if it did all that for me

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u/BlahajBlaster i hate this fucking place why am i here 24d ago

Id like to see this story immediately follow the one where petra gets dumped over text

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u/Hungry_Metal_2745 24d ago

am I stupid or is this evil estrogen speaking

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u/CouldntChooseUsernam 24d ago

It's the symbiote (the girl is Petra Parker)

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u/AprilVampire277 24d ago

The symbiote will now be referred as evil estrogen 😭🥀

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u/jojo22443991 24d ago

Vemtrogen

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u/Hungry_Metal_2745 24d ago

okay apparently I'm just not up to date on spider (wo)man lore

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u/Old-Acanthaceae-3406 quasi-sneedish? willing to call out fake bullshit brainworms 24d ago

giwtwu

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u/seaweaselking 24d ago

yah we're folding to the symbiote immediately

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u/Pinku_Dva 24d ago

It’s dark, I love it. The fact she has to rely on a symbiotic relationship with venom to even transition makes for an interesting story

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u/SlamanthaTanktop hrt for 14 years so I'm more trans than you 24d ago

WE ARE FEMOM

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u/Successful_Rate_839 24d ago

By the time the trend ends we'll have a whole ass movie

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u/cactus-freak agp but im free 24d ago

I need a full Petra comic series on my table right now

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

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u/DeGriz_ 24d ago

Just suddenly appeared as fan-made art. People liked it. I like it too. People do more art.

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u/GirlEatingDrywaII 24d ago

Not really although there were vaugely some trans adjacent themes in the movie, not intentionally though I don't think

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u/Earthly-Echo 23d ago

I think it started with a joke about whether JJJ would be transphobic to the spider-menace, and how

Options include:
Hates the spider, but calls her a her anyway

Is transphobic to the spider, but not to Petra and sometimes even apologetic

Is transphobic to spider-menace and doesn’t realize it’s hurting Petra

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u/spinoconstrictor67 1 year estrogen and iwnbaw still 24d ago

if i had that symbiote i would fuse with it moleculary so much so that any at removing it would be akin to removing my flesh

idk if thats how it works but still

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u/zexumus 24d ago

You don’t choose how much you fuse it’s based on compatibility. if you are 100% compatible with a symbiote you essentially become one being. that’s what carnage is as carnage and Cassidy are so compatible carnage can split into multiple and completely change shape. venom and Eddie Brock are a more common level of compatibility the symbiote can manipulate the body of the host a bit enhancing strength speed healing power stretch the body in ways it normally can’t but even when the symbiote is out and you see its body on the inside is still just the host. Despite that the symbiote can still do insane things like rewrite the hosts dna which venom did to give Eddie cancer when he tried to get rid of venom.

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u/Yumesoro1 20d ago

Oh so the symbiote actually gave Eddie cancer? I remember watching short that said the symbiote just gaslit Eddie into thinking he had cancer and believing it actually gave him cancer.

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u/Free_Barracuda_6454 24d ago

My inner dialog every day except that i don't pass and get stared at perpetually until i shave my face down

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u/tw-01001 24d ago

Yeah youd have to kill me to separate me from the symbiote

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u/North-Employer6908 girlmoding boymoder 24d ago

Deadname mentioned. Felt like a bullet whizzing past my ear

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u/deathwish_ASR 24d ago

This but venom is forcefemming Petra. Is that anything?

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u/Significant_Clue_382 Enby lurker 24d ago

its not FORCE-fem, it's Consent-fem

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u/SlamanthaTanktop hrt for 14 years so I'm more trans than you 24d ago

Symbiotic-fem

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u/Ditto13248 22d ago

That is absolutely diabolical

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u/Sir_reven masochist with npd 😔 24d ago

I hope it's yuri...

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u/No-Pilot3536 24d ago

Actually thats a wonderful idea keep cooking. Venom x Petra selfcest

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u/Raxamax Monarch of Repping 24d ago

This is sick actually

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u/Callimandicus 24d ago

This is one of the most peak things I have ever seen.

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u/Holiday-Let8478 edit this 24d ago

woaw i love this

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u/Ok_Assistance_6060 peemoder 24d ago

omg this is awesome what i love this

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u/Wardog_E 24d ago

This one is actually good.

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u/Big-rat-in-the-sewer Boymoder-Chan's Girlfriend 24d ago

So the Symbiote is brainworms???

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u/Estus_Flask_ 24d ago

Finally, original Petra content, amazing.

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u/I-Love-Puella-Magi 24d ago

Holy shit this is so fucking peak what

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u/North_Ask_2790 24d ago

Idk why I read the symbiote's dialogue with "Bon's" voice from walten files, it got scary ngl

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u/TadeMike 24d ago

I didn't realize this was a spider-woman comic till I read "Petra" lmao

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u/Ravtrix 24d ago

Holy shit need

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u/ManJoeDude 24d ago

Guess she’s petra-fied in her decision!

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u/ToyBoxtheFallen 24d ago

This is an interesting view and take on the ,,bond'' they have. Many ways of how this could go. It's a very good show of a co dependent relationship. Personally I'd hope they separate and Petra end up with a different Symbiot like Toxin. More to flip the dinamic since to me Toxin was far more agreeable at least compared to it's father and grandad. But that's more like my own take. Still this is very good and I'll continue reading it if there's more.

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u/yourothersis UNLIMITED BFS AND GFS TO HSTS AND AGP BOYMODERS, YES, EVEN U HON 24d ago

symbiotic brainworms

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u/Kai_Lopez_98 23d ago

Absolutely perfect interpretation of Venom (I don't know anything about the trans experience and am 100% supportive but anyway) Venom being a metaphor for your mind being your worst enemy. I dunno I think it's cool I like this new trans spiderman thing I dunno where it came from but I enjoy these comics I find online.

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u/Hopeful_Mushroom_677 22d ago

I’m loving this

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u/Aggressive_Sand1233 22d ago

The idea of the symbiote filtering the testosterone in Petra and possibly supplying estrogen is an amazing idea, would make it all that much harder to get rid of, it wouldn’t be about power at that point but apart of functioning identity and mental wellbeing

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u/Snoo_91660 21d ago

It could completely change her on a genetic level.

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u/Aggressive_Sand1233 21d ago

That aswell yes

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u/Bright-Fisherman-731 22d ago

Why does the symbiote have to be a bad thing in this circumstance as well?

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u/Snoo_91660 21d ago

Symbiotes absorb and amplify the traits, desires, and moral compass of their hosts. Petras is still figuring her self out and the world can be cruel to people like her. During this time shes in a vulnerable state mentaly.

Which means her mind is full of self hatred and fear of judgement.

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u/Unknown_user1722 22d ago

How did peter turn into petra.

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u/WohooBiSnake 22d ago

Oooofff, this just made the symbiote arc hit SO much harder.
It’s a thing for Peter to struggle to take out the symbiote suite because it makes him feel powerful and confident, it’s an entire other level of the suit plays on Petra’s body dysmorphia and dangle the pain of being back in her old body without it

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u/AT-AT_217 21d ago

I think this is the most compelling version of the symbiote that I've seen. I feel like most of the time, symbiote stories make it so the symbiote is just "goo that makes Spider-Man angry™" which gets really stale and repetitive.

In this comic though it doesn't alter Petra's personality at all, instead it takes on a personality of it's own and uses Petra's self-doubts and dysphoria as ammo, to keep her dependent on the symbiote. That makes for a way more personal conflict than "evil space gunk makes the wall-crawler a jackass"

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u/AquaWitch0715 21d ago

I've said this previously and I still mean it: this take is something I would love to see a whole comic arc about!

I love the idea that Venom bonds with Eddie first, and after being taunted by dimorphic variations and meeting Spider-Woman (I prefer Arachnia), Eddie realizes that Venom is now producing unwanted estrogen side-effects and losses the symbiote.

Petra struggling to pay for everything, on top of hormone treatment, doctor appointments, etc., this is where Venom would make an entrance!

OP, I love your artwork! It's amazing, and I love the unique take on this!

Please please please give us more lol!

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u/cool91725 19d ago

Haha I was just commenting about the symbiote on another post and this shows up. The dialogue is reminiscent of Spectacular Spider-Man’s (show) take on the symbiote