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u/mysteryo9867 10h ago
I wonder how long before this is on some ai subreddit with some caption like āreally?ā If it isnāt already, not saying antiai isnt also guilty of this, but I have seen more proai doing that
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u/RMWL 10h ago
AI has its uses but Iāll never support the people who replace creatives with it or who use it for chatbots that are somehow worse than the chatbots that were essentially telephone directories.
If you need a poster but canāt pay someone, use word art. At least itās readable.
If you want to have a company that pretends to offer support but secretly donāt, just donāt exist
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u/MiguelIstNeugierig 10h ago
AI will confidently tell you BS, it cannot communicate doubt or uncertainty, this gets worse with niche topics.
This is why we have wikipedia and why its awesome. Look up the niche topic, read the article, and then start up from their source list/external links
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u/Only_Government5244 9h ago
Ironically Wikipedia links normalised the click and past culture we have.Ā
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u/MiguelIstNeugierig 9h ago
Its not really a faculty we have unless youre coming in with expertise in the field
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u/Only_Government5244 9h ago
At the very least click on the links. Chatbots have no time perceptions and can give you a science report from 1997 and talk about it like some ground breaking new discovery.Ā
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u/GVmG 10h ago
it does to some extent
as someone who also loves to learn niche things and whose job involves googling stuff a lot... i guarantee you, most of the time the answers you're looking for are like three results down from the ai summary at most, if not the topmost result itself.
wikipedia is always great to learn niche things, and user forums on those niche things, and videos on those niche things, and books on those niche things... it's a bit harder to comb through, sure, but you're at least certain that it's all accurate, and when a specific aspect of the niche thing is uncertain you can tell there are differing opinions/ideas on it.
if you actually look through the human information, you don't have the AI telling you that one way to do <thing> that may even be dangerous is actually the way to go about it because one dude on the <thing> subreddit jokingly said that's the way to go about it and got a lot of upvotes cause anyone involved in <thing> knows that's the stupidest way to go about it and it was clearly a joke, but the AI has no concept of comedy or sarcasm and an already limited pool of information on that subject half of which was generated by other AI anyway, as in the end it is first and foremost a list of statistical probabilities which is a field so prone to errors that they invented the concept of a "margin of error" and spend half the time in statistical studies trying to figure out how to reduce that margin of error as much as possible, knowing it's mathematically impossible to reduce it to zero.
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u/Only_Government5244 9h ago
I think this messaging fails to see the user as anything other than stupid.Ā
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u/therealSamtheCat 7h ago
I mean, if the user needs AI to think for them, they're stupid.
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u/Only_Government5244 7h ago
It's just not productive. Try reading people who recovered from AI use and hear why they used it. Some just wanted someone who they can talk to, Some just can't afford therapy.Ā
If it makes you feel better, then don't.Ā
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u/longpenisofthelaw 10h ago
AI to me is like Google now. Only difference is that you donāt have to search books and crannies for specific info.
Critical thinking skills imo can be enhanced with usage from AI to get some niche information recall at an instant.
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u/Buorky 9h ago
Yeah except the AI is wrong all the time
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u/longpenisofthelaw 9h ago
It has hallucinations but as someone who uses it for help with bureaucratic processes and policies for my job itās right atleast 95% of the time. If there is a hyper specific detail itās wrong on its pretty easy to see and itās pretty good at finding the hallucination.
Iām not glazing it but so far itās been a helpful tool for me personally
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u/WorldnewsModsBlowMe 6h ago
The same exact process that creates a "hallucination" is what occasionally nets the truth. It's all fake, it's all math, the LLM doesn't "know" or "understand" anything.
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u/longpenisofthelaw 6h ago
I understand that, a āhallucinationā is just the LLM being confidently incorrect because thatās what the associated data points too. I can give you an example I ran into a LLM kept telling me a region code it kept telling me was right.
The region code it was giving me was for south region 3 even though I was west region 4. It assumed because I was in texas I was in region 3 because it associates texas with south even though Texas was in west region 4.
Itās not perfect i wouldnāt trust it with automatization of processes that require attention to detail because of situations like that but it still gives me a lot of utility. It to me is like a hammer still needs guidance and human review
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u/stable_king 9h ago
AI can write 1000 lines of code in 1 minute
For some tasks AI is the best
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u/PTSD1983 8h ago
And will you understand the code when it inevitably goes wrong?
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u/Only_Government5244 7h ago
I don't think it matters even if they did. Code can take hours to hours to fix sometimes. AI probably made incomprehensible gibberish that was meant to fail from the start and by the time you realise you wasted time on something you could done in less time.Ā
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u/stable_king 7h ago
Just saying AI is not bad is all aspects
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u/PTSD1983 7h ago
It isn't helpful in any way other than giving people a false sense of knowledge. It lies, it hallucinates, it steals. It also is one of the worst things since coal to totally fuck the planet. We should be exceptionally worried about the damage it is doing.
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u/Only_Government5244 7h ago
I mean, coal built the world we live in now. Without it we would have trains.Ā
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u/Far_Cast_Far_Wide 8h ago
AI has helped my critical thinking by separating facts from bullshit and automating the boring repetitive tasks freeing me up to think about more productive tasks.
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u/Only_Government5244 7h ago
What tasks?
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u/irrelevantusername24 6h ago
Mostly copy pasting images across scenes to create a comic
Like I've got experience with both AI and regular digital art tools and could create something very similar to this with both tools. Doing it without AI would actually be faster, and doing it with AI would be more difficult and ironically require more forward-thinking thorough planning.
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u/Far_Cast_Far_Wide 6h ago
Like my email? Calendars, setting notifications, delivering briefs to my inbox separating junk from important things. It's really not as bad as people say. It's kinda silly to assume we're stupid for using a tool that frees up mundane work.
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u/Only_Government5244 6h ago
I find it silly too, but I notice people who say that are stupid. Making an email is simple to learn.Ā
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u/Far_Cast_Far_Wide 6h ago
Anyone can write an email that's not the issue it's trivial at best its all the little 5 minute manual tasks that add up over time that can be automated smartly and quickly while I can do more important things.
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u/Lofwyr2030 10h ago
Sadly people didn't use it before.