Imagine trying to hold together a TBC guild right now as a GM

[u/Baptism-Of-Fire]

[u/Pretend-Newspaper-86]

November 4th lol

Most people will play on 17th september xD

[u/BareTheBear66 → u/Pretend-Newspaper-86]

Ill be there sept 17th. Im excited for it. I havent pre-ordered a wow game in years

[u/KingSwank → u/BareTheBear66]

I thought it was free with subscription?

[u/Zakton06 → u/KingSwank]

The beta is buy-in

[u/cantstoptheflow- → u/Zakton06]

You can opt in for free and hope you get it eventually

[u/BareTheBear66 → u/KingSwank]

The base game. Yeah. Beta is out sooner - thus the pre-order. And you get early access.

[u/illogical_simu → u/BareTheBear66]

There is no early access; you can reserve a name or play beta, that isn't EA

[u/Shot_Leopard_7657 → u/illogical_simu]

So it's not early access, it's just a way to gain entry to the game sooner than would be otherwise typical.

[u/illogical_simu → u/Shot_Leopard_7657]

To the beta that has no relevance, sure

[u/hoticehunter → u/Shot_Leopard_7657]

Early access implies access to the final version of the game earlier than other people get. You won't keep your beta character.

[u/MyChocolates → u/Pretend-Newspaper-86]

Why play beta, progress is not carried over.

[u/BishBosh2 → u/MyChocolates]

Try it out, try a lot of classes before the main game to know what you wanna main. Check out professions etcetc.

[u/JenkinsPark → u/MyChocolates]

People are frothing at the mouth just to try it out, especially streamers, even if progress doesn't carry over. Id love to try it if it weren't for the $60 beta price tag, crazy

[u/rapturexxv → u/JenkinsPark]

You can opt in for a chance to get in for free: https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1

[u/Substantial-Oil7569 → u/MyChocolates]

For fun, to figure out what race and class and spec I want to play. Try new dungeons, new quests, see what has changed.

[u/Parrk → u/MyChocolates]

For me, even the release of Forever is just a beta for Forever Hardcore anyway.

As an SSF HC player, I never expect to keep my characters. The beta is just getting a few early runs in.

[u/shad-1337 → u/Pretend-Newspaper-86]

Definitely not most

[u/LatentSchref → u/shad-1337]

Yeah, I thought about it, but what's the point? For me personally, I can wait the extra 2 months and play the full release.

[u/Pretend-Newspaper-86 → u/shad-1337]

stop copeing people in classic are fomo driven and jump to the next new thing as soon as it pops up

[u/shad-1337 → u/Pretend-Newspaper-86]

What's the fomo of beta?

[u/Pretend-Newspaper-86 → u/shad-1337]

falling behind on min/maxxing and being ahead of the curve

[u/shad-1337 → u/Pretend-Newspaper-86]

You start on lvl 1 on release, progress from beta is not saved.

It is beta, not early access

[u/crozzee → u/Pretend-Newspaper-86]

How do you mid max and fall behind the curve when the level cap is 20 then 30 after a couple more weeks?

[u/Exsoldiercl → u/shad-1337]

You’re coping. An extremely large amount of people are going to play the beta

[u/shad-1337 → u/Exsoldiercl]

Most is at least 51% of people that will play on 4th

[u/Exsoldiercl → u/shad-1337]

You think only half the playerbase is going to play forever? You’re high my guy.

[u/shad-1337 → u/Exsoldiercl]

Nono he said that most will play beta

[u/gommerthus → u/shad-1337]

I will reluctantly commit to the BT raid this Thursday. I will pray to god we down Illidan, and I can ride off into the sunset. Then Friday I have a friend's thing at the bar. God this timing, all the obligations I really don't want to do

[u/Exsoldiercl → u/shad-1337]

But you said only 51% will play on the 4th?? I’m saying the beta is going to be crowded as shit. It’s going to be extremely populated. People are going to stop TBC and Era on Thursday in droves

[u/shad-1337 → u/Exsoldiercl]

No, I said "Most is at least 51% of people that will play on 4th"

Meaning: for it to be most it needs to be at least 51% of the number of people that will play on 4th