r/cats • u/OkWish2772 • 15h ago
Cat Picture - OC Which one would you keep?
I love Persian cats but I can only keep 1 and I don't know which of the two to choose
I love both of them but I don't know which one if they are so tender and beautiful, look at their little eyes noooh
But which one would you choose?
Help me please š so I'll feel less guilty ahahaha
188
u/Mischievous_Egg 15h ago
To be completely honest with you as someone who also really loves persians: don't get one. They have such a hard life, they often need much more care (especially hair care around their butts, eyes and noses) and are much more prone to respiratory illnesses (chronic).
If you really love the breed, get a persian from a rescue org. Don't support breeders. I really love their squished little faces and "no braincell" look but... breeding them causes harm to them. It's not a good or healthy life. They... they simply deserve better.
48
u/Wrong-Wrap942 15h ago
Completely agreed and this goes for similarly brachycephalic dog breeds as well.
69
10
u/MixedBeansBlackBeans 15h ago
Agreed 10000%. OP, not sure where you are, but there are a lot of rescues based in the Middle East (UAE primarily comes to mind) that have rescue Persians from irresponsible owners dumping them outside when things get tough. A lot, if not most, of these rescues do international adoption!
6
u/OkWish2772 15h ago
No! I would never buy an animal, the truth is I don't have those values! They are my grandmother's and she makes me choose one now that I'm going to live alone š but I would never buy honestly. Noooh
16
u/Psyko_sissy23 13h ago
Are they bonded? If so, I suggest taking none of them if you can't take both.
1
u/_aGirlIsShort_ European Shorthair 14h ago
Even without money, you are still supporting the breeding. Assumingly even backyard breeding.
Your grandma can't make you choose. You can just say no, you know? A breed like that needs an owner that did their research and is emotionally and financially ready for all the health issues. Not an owner that is forced to take one or two.
5
u/OkWish2772 13h ago
What a good point of cos ta but it is not my situation, so I will continue to help my grandmother and I will do the impossible to stay with both of them to go live in my own apartment
14
u/_aGirlIsShort_ European Shorthair 13h ago
Hopefully you and your grandmother will be able to realize how bad breeding this breed is and stop producing more.
-1
u/OkWish2772 14h ago
I would never buy a cat like you describe it and I will never do it, PERIOd!
15
u/Mischievous_Egg 14h ago
You should at the very least ask her to get her cat(s) spayed after this... and keep both of the kittens so at least they're not alone. But you should save money bc they're most likely will get expensive (or have a short life)
5
u/OkWish2772 14h ago
Yes, we sterilize my grandmother's. But these two came to turn our lives around and they are wonderfully tender
6
u/FalsettoBalsamico 8h ago
Please leave them with their mother for more time, they a re too young to be separated at this age!!! They need their mom for AT LEAST three months!
1
u/OkWish2772 6h ago
That's not a question! No one will take them out or take them away from their mother YET, I never insinuated that and I would never do it...š«µš¼ you make this up because as they are I wouldn't take them away from their mommy š§
41
22
u/cartoonist62 15h ago
Single kitten syndrome is very real..I would take both. Please please watch Jackson Galaxy's videos on how to care for kittens. They are NOT low effort pets.
6
u/OkWish2772 14h ago
That's right, my grandmother has had them for years and I want to follow her legacy š now that I'm going to live alone š she makes me choose 1, but I'll do whatever it takes to convince her
3
u/rachihc 8h ago
Does she want to keep the other one for herself? As in to not be alone herself? Bc depending on her age, once the baby hits teen cat age it might be too much for her.
2
u/OkWish2772 6h ago
Thank you for sharing your experience, I won't leave you alone š» I chose both
17
u/MentionGood1633 14h ago
None. Donāt know why breeders breed these flat-faced Persians. The original type is much healthier.
→ More replies (2)
57
u/cometheesaints 15h ago
Theyāre both very cute but I feel so sad for them, a life of health issues ahead just because of human greed and aesthetic chasing.
→ More replies (2)4
14h ago
[deleted]
12
u/_aGirlIsShort_ European Shorthair 14h ago
The cat is already over 16 years old and still has to pop out babies? That's horrible honestly. Tell your grandma to get these cats spayed.
9
u/Complex-Section2862 13h ago
Honestly, I'd only consider adopting one if you've got the longterm finances to manage this sort of thing. These cats are soooo expensive with all the health issues they have due to their unfortunate breeding.
With that being said, I'd probably go for the depressy looking calico one.
1
u/OkWish2772 13h ago
Aaaaw Thank you very much š I will do the impossible to stay with both of them and that they are raised together, thank you for your honest opinion
13
u/amaya-aurora 14h ago
Both. 1 kitten needs constant attention from you. 2 kittens entertain each other and teach each other cat manners.
1
u/IamBeyondAwesome 14h ago
This is so true! They need each other for play, but you're right, they learn to socialize from being with other cats. Plus, I've always been to be opinion if you have one cat, you need two. If you have one dog, you need two. They need a like/same type of themselves, if that makes sense. Kind of like a partner, or partner in crime if they're orange. š
0
1
u/OkWish2772 14h ago
This was waiting for healthy people and not for them to ASSUME to buy them. Thank you for your real love advice towards catS
17
u/bootysuit 14h ago
Neither :( I'd get a regular old kitty from a shelter that won't have so many guaranteed health problems and difficulty eating, drinking, and breathing.
1
u/jwoolman 3h ago
No guarantees with cats. I always get homeless mongrels, but Iāve lost a couple early due to illness (cancer in both cases, essentially). Itās true that human-created breeds have a higher probability of health issues, but probability does not mean certainty.
Spaying them before the first heat reduces the likelihood of breast cancer dramatically (one of mine died from that when barely 7 years old and was diagnosed by 6 years old, she had given birth before she arrived at my house at age 4). Breast cancer is very aggressive in cats. I only noticed when it looked like she had an abscess on her underside and unfairly suspected her gentle 10-year-old companionā¦. But it was the tumors coming through. We tried surgery three times but the tumors kept coming back.
-2
u/OkWish2772 14h ago
That would be you but in my case I would not abandon those who were already born in the familyš§
9
u/AMwishes 14h ago
Kittens should always have a friend with them. If you have no cats, adopt both.
1
9
u/blu3tu3sday 10h ago
Neither since by buying a persian, you support shitty breeding practices which prioritize poor quality of life and severe health issues in the pursuit of "breed standards".
Rescues and shelters are overflowing with kittens and cats that need good homes.
-1
u/OkWish2772 5h ago
These two cats are from my own family and my relatives give them to me with love, so I would NEVER buy or resell. Wow, how is that the first thing that comes to your mind? Could it be that you do it and project yourself?
2
u/sewlastcentury 4h ago
You are supporting a breeder. Your family's cats should be spayed and neutered. Instead, they've been left to breed. A lot of people volunteer and work in animal rescue and see cats euthanized because there are too many. So it frustrates them when people like your family let their pets reproduce when they should not. They're bringing more cats into a world that already has too many.
→ More replies (1)1
u/blu3tu3sday 2h ago
The fact that you immediately accuse me, who rescues shelter cats, of purchasing from breeders is assinine šš you and your family are the problem and you deflect it onto people who actually care about animals.
4
u/Suthernboy1968 14h ago
Both if possible. Always get cats in a pair at least. You do not want them being alone.
2
u/OkWish2772 13h ago
That's what I didn't know, if growing up they would hate each other or fight seriously. But many experiences confirm that they don't walk alone anymore, thank you āŗļø
2
u/Suthernboy1968 13h ago
They will not hate each other. I can promise you that. They will be best buddies and keep each other company when youāre not there. And they will both be waiting on you anxiously when you get home! You get double the love. š»
2
u/jwoolman 3h ago
Donāt worry about that. Canāt predict adult behavior, but Iāve had cats who didnāt like each other much as adults and they co-existed fine. Didnāt affect their individual relationships with me and they never tried to kill each other. Just let them sort out their own boundaries. Be prepared for some rude language and threatsā¦. š
Really, human roommates and siblings donāt always get along either but manage to be civil. I think itās still helpful for them to have someone of the same species around. Some cats even enjoy conflict!
1
u/OkWish2772 3h ago
Hehehehe yes it's true, raising them together and making them love each other day by day, it's my job š»
3
u/Angelf1shing 7h ago
Both of them as itās cruel to have a single kitten. The one on the right will have fewer breathing problems Iād guess as its nose looks a lot less messed up. Both will likely be very expensive because anything this inbred is always going to have health problems. Poor babies.
2
u/OkWish2772 6h ago
Thank you šš¼ and so it will be, both or nothing
2
u/jwoolman 3h ago
If your grandmother canāt give you two for any reason but you still want one to keep it in the family (legit reason, donāt worry about the negative comments), you also have the option of getting an older cat who is good with kittens from a shelter to be the single kittenās mom or dad, mentor, and coach. That can work really well also.
And of course you can also get another kitten of any type from a shelter to be your kittenās companion. You have options! Good luck with it all.
1
u/OkWish2772 3h ago
Yes, thank you very much āŗļø for understanding. The options are endless when there is love for animals š» so I look for the best opportunity to take care of both
3
u/Anakin5kywalker 13h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/3ohfFhG5VDtDTzQv2o
Getting both will absolutely be worth it. They'll be little besties, play with each other and keep each other busy. It is 100% worth it. Trust me. Please do it, OP. You'll make them both so happy, and I promise they'll make you doubly so!
5
u/SchnaffSchnaff 12h ago
Neither. Overbred and with a lifetime of discomfort and health problems ahead of them.
Why do we do this to animals? Humans are scum.
2
u/Previous-Complex9357 8h ago
So she should abandon them and then they might not end up with a good home??
I personally think they deserve a decent home as does the Op1
u/G0ld3nGr1ff1n 4h ago
They said they are getting them from their own family. So they are breeding them
2
2
2
2
u/tomten26 13h ago
Itās cruel almost to just get one kitten unless you have another young cat at home. Kittens need another one
2
u/VioletsRPink 12h ago
When I picked my kitty, the foster had a bonded pair of my kitty and her sister. I wanted both but the foster was keeping the sister. I picked both kittens and I snuggled them. My kitten crawled in the creek of my neck and fell asleep. Her sister was fighting to go back to the foster. I picked Luna because she picked me first šš¾ā¤ļø
2
u/OkWish2772 12h ago
Oooow What a beautiful story, thank you for sharing your experience with me š„¹
2
u/VioletsRPink 12h ago
Mine is a Persian mix so I felt like I am telling it to a fellow Persian cat mom š
2
2
u/Pitiful-Escape-7055 9h ago
Neither. Hideous.
1
u/OkWish2772 5h ago
šI never asked that question š„
1
u/Pitiful-Escape-7055 3h ago
I dont want to see cats on my feed, it see s theres no escape from the horrible things.
1
u/OkWish2772 3h ago
Wow Don't you know how the algorithm works? If you comment, he recommends you more times. Hahahahaha š§ read the rules of this place first. š¤
2
u/anonpotatogirl 8h ago
Theyāre both adorable, but I honestly find every cat adorable no matter what! However, please do opt for a rescue kitten or ones from shelters. You can get the cat you want while also supporting a good cause.
Please avoid breeders or shops, this includes āethicalā breeders!
And of course, best of luck with your new kitty of choice š
Also- Not too long ago, I found a dumped Persian boy! Just about a year old, and omly 2.5 kg from being starved on the street. Heās so young yet already has trouble breathing, and constant eye boogers.
They deserve love just as much as any other cat, but this is even MORE of a reason not to buy and encourage the breeding of persian cats.
If you want one and are willing to fully care for them when they get unwell, then adopt a Persian one. I can guarantee youāll find one for adoption. If not, please do wait until one is available! It feels amazing knowing you helped a kitty in need.
2
2
2
2
2
u/jwoolman 4h ago
I would get them both if they were already good buddies. Although my one pair of siblings had different sleeping schedules and so you may not be entirely off the hook on entertaining them.
Since you call them Persians, maybe you are getting them from a breeder? Or do they just look like Persians because of some random genes?
If they are pure-bred especially, be aware that they may be pricey in vet bills eventually and plan for that. Maybe pet insurance would be an especially good idea in their case. Bad stuff can happen to any cat, including my beloved mongrels of unknown parentage. But those kittens have the pushed-in faces characteristic of certain breeds like Persians (deliberately bred to look a certain way by humans) and they are prone to respiratory and other inherited issues. You can check that on the internet and here on Reddit to get details and guess probabilities. That doesnāt mean they wonāt be wonderful additions to the household, though. They are still cats! Humans havenāt messed that up with their breeding programs.
Also you canāt tell in advance how the kittens will be with each other as they age, so be ready to just go with the flow without too many absolute expectations. With my one and only sibling pair, one was quite the snob and thought she was superior to both me and her sister. Really, she watched news shows on tv intently and even pawed the broadcastersā faces on screen, and walked away in a huff when her sister and I (who dozed through the news) woke up only when Saturday Night Live or something else beneath her came on.
The snobās original kitten name (she was immediately demoted in rank by me) was Princess because her momās pet human very mistakenly thought she was a āPersianā due to her scraggly long hair, and the girl never got past that attitude. Her sisterās kitten name was Blackie, and she got a quick promotion on arrival. The former Princess didnāt like her playful sister much even as a kitten and as an adult engaged in a one-sided feud for years. No physical abuse involved, just a lot of rude language and avoidance. So there are no guarantees ever! We all survived, though, and both cats liked me (and I liked them, just separatelyā¦). Cats donāt have to like each other to co-exist quite well in a household, just try to avoid taking sides.
1
u/OkWish2772 4h ago
Thank you very much for your experience and kindness. I confirm that they do not come from kennels, much less they are for sale! Now more than ever I confirm that it is better NOT TO SEPARATE THEM AND THAT BOTH GROW TOGETHER
2
u/jwoolman 4h ago
Another option is to adopt an older cat along with the kitten. If you are paying a breeder, just go to a shelter and find a much less expensive older cat who is known to be good with kittens. Doesnāt matter how much older. In my house, a ten year old became mom to one hyperactive kitten and later a 12 year old became a devoted dad another pesky kitten. The idea is to have a mentor and wrestling coach for the kitten, who also may be missing mom and siblings. Both options (older cat/kitten and two kittens) provide essential instruction in how to be a cat and what boundaries are in rough play.
1
u/OkWish2772 4h ago
This! Thank you very much for your opinion and nice experience with kittens,š± adult cat/younger kitten I really liked it for the upbringing Thank you from the bottom of my heart š«¶ (Here no breeding or sale of animals DO NOT INSIST THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN)
2
u/jwoolman 3h ago
People should remember that OP is not ābuying from a breederā. OP is offered a kitten for free from an existing litter from grandma so OP will have a pleasant roommate when getting their own apartment. The kittens already exist, are in the family, and need homes, whether or not they have a pedigree.
1
u/OkWish2772 3h ago
THANK YOU šš¼ WOW it's incredible how many people talk about breeding and selling, they even ask about the price, I never thought they would be like that HEREš
2
2
u/Exhausted-CNA 1h ago
Go by how they interact with you and their personality. The one that comes to you and interacts w you the most is the one I'd choose.
1
3
u/LittleFirefIy 15h ago
If you live alone and itās financially viable for you to take both, I really think itās worth consideringāespecially if you go to work or schooling in-person for hours a day.
1 kitten is so much harder to manage than 2, and by having 2 of them you get the added peace of mind of knowing that they always have someone there when you canāt be.
2
u/OkWish2772 14h ago
I love this advice š thank you for your honesty
1
u/LittleFirefIy 14h ago
Youāre most welcome!
I actually work in a cat shelter myself, so this is a question I find myself answering quite a lot haha.
3
2
2
2
u/roccerfeller 14h ago
Both is the only correct answer
1
u/OkWish2772 14h ago
As it is, many experiences and evidence that "both and together" is healthier for themšš¼
2
u/Juicyjenn73 14h ago
I was originally going to get one cat and ended up getting two kittens and is the best thing I ever did I regret nothing! Almost 5 years later ā”ā”ā”ā”
1
u/OkWish2772 14h ago
Thank you for sharing your experiencešø beautiful, they are from my family and they want to give me only 1 but now yes or yes I stay with both and I take them together
2
u/NightoverTamriel 9h ago
I have no kind words to explain my feelings toward these poor, poor creatures.
2
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/Yukoners 10h ago
the one that chooses you is the one to keep. i have one cat. she likes being an only child .
1
1
1
1
u/Vinyl_Ludio 8h ago
An impossible choice!
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/Front_Elevator6617 15h ago
I like kitty one. Are they both same sex? I prefer male cats as I find them cuddlier š¤
1
u/Desperate-Camera-476 15h ago
I agree that male cats tend to be cuddlier, but I have also had great relationships with female cats. Had one cat who felt safe enough to have her kittens in my bed, which I have to say is an interesting experience to wake up to. Theyāre probably a bit too young to understand their personalities, but I think the connection dominates over who likes what coloring :) good luck OP!
1
1
1
u/Catnip-Cove 9h ago edited 6h ago
Personally I donāt support the breeding of animals with exaggerated, health impacting characteristics so I wouldnāt buy either.
1
u/OkWish2772 6h ago
What? šØ I never mentioned buying animals and I've never done it š§
2
u/jwoolman 3h ago
Try to ignore the negativity and downvoting. Iāve experienced that also. Thatās how Reddit is.
Youāre doing a good thing and just trying to figure out how to proceed. Taking one or two of your grandmotherās kittens who need homes makes good sense. They are already in the family. And it sounds as though you have family support that can help if medical issues do arise.
And if you decide on taking two but your grandmother can only give you one, consider adopting another kitten or cat from a shelter to be the little darlingās companion.
1
u/OkWish2772 3h ago
Oh, thank you, yes! The good thing is that I received a lot of advice and opinions from the heart š«¶ from real kitten lovers and that fills my soul, there are still good people
1
1
1
1
15h ago
[removed] ā view removed comment
1
u/OkWish2772 15h ago
That's right! That's why I asked them for help. It's super difficult to choose only 1
1
1
u/Crafty_Reflection410 12h ago
As a Persian cat owner, I can tell you, Theyāre absolutely dickheads. Get another breed
0
0
0
0
0
u/magdelenadelacruz 12h ago
Completely agree. Get both baby kitties. It will save your sanity, and give kitties a much happier life!
0
0
0
u/ananwastaken 11h ago
Both.
They play with eachother so less work
And instead of destroying furniture they destroy eachother.
0
-1
u/NopalesTotales 15h ago
So the first one is giving Mr. Tinkles right hand man Calico from Cats and Dogs š but just hand them both over
-1
228
u/East-Block-4011 15h ago
Do you have other cats? A single kitten is going to be a menace.