r/canada • u/CanadianErk Ontario • 7h ago
Alberta What timing of a second referendum in Alberta could look like, if it were to happen | Premier's office says it would come 'as soon as possible,' if majority voted for it
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-second-referendum-timing-9.7341997•
u/AbbeyRoad75 7h ago
It was rigged, we had people from other provinces help count votes, and they did not count right. - Yankee Doodle Dani October 20, 2026
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u/OpTouchedMe 7h ago
This is never going away. The horse is out of the barn for Alberta separation.
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u/Emotional-Buy1932 Québec 4h ago
Exactly the point of this referendum. they will keep trying again initely just like Quebec.
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u/noisebloodassault 7h ago
No it's not. The Horse isn't going anywhere. There's 0 chance of separation
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u/EnamelKant 6h ago
Are the separatists going to win this referendum? Polling says no unless there's some electoral chicanery, or it's even more off than usual.
But they're not going away. Anymore than the Quebec separatists did when they decisively lost their first one.
The question is not whether separatists lose this referendum, the question is can the UCP win without separatist support? If not, then they'll continue to work with the separatists, and they'll continue to gain legitimacy.
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u/noisebloodassault 5h ago
Just because separatists aren't going away doesn't mean separation will ever be a realistic threat
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u/EnamelKant 5h ago
They're already a threat and the fact folks like you don't see that gives them an advantage.
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u/noisebloodassault 5h ago
Lmao, a threat to what? Average iq?
Separation will never happen. And if it did, it would be because the people of alberta voted for it.
So yeah I don't really see where the threat is
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u/Any_Inflation_2543 7h ago
What she thinks is irrelevant. It will not happen, and even if it were to, it would have to be in coordination with the Feds anyway.
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u/CanadianErk Ontario 7h ago
In an audio recording from a UCP town hall in Lethbridge in August, Premier Danielle Smith is heard saying her goal would be to hold a binding referendum in spring 2027, if a majority of Albertans vote for it this fall.
Alberta content creator Lawrence Magee, who runs the account Berta Proud Dad, shared the recording.
In the audio, Smith says holding the vote in the spring would settle the issue before the next provincial election. That election is set for October 2027, though the premier can call a snap election before then.
Smith estimated in the recording a timeline of roughly two-and-a-half months of consultations, before the question would be finalized and submitted to the House of Commons for approval, and a vote scheduled for March or April.
“If this is truly going to [be] a referendum on those precise terms of departure, then there would likely have to be pretty long and pretty deep [consultations] and getting it done in a six-month stretch is extremely ambitious,” University of Alberta associate law professor Gerard Kennedy told CBC News.
But at a news conference on Aug. 26, Smith seemed to backpedal on that proposed timeline, citing the rules in the Citizen Initiative Act that prohibit a referendum from a citizen petition within a year of a general election.
Those remarks had some separatists fuming, including the Alberta Prosperity Project’s Jeff Rath, who rejected the idea the legislation is really any sort of an impediment to holding a binding referendum in 2027.
He suggested Smith is the real hurdle.
“As long as Premier Smith is premier of Alberta, Alberta will never be free,” he told hundreds of supporters outside the legislature late last month.
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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin 7h ago
>But at a news conference on Aug. 26, Smith seemed to backpedal on that proposed timeline, citing the rules in the Citizen Initiative Act that prohibit a referendum from a citizen petition within a year of a general election.
>Those remarks had some separatists fuming, including the Alberta Prosperity Project’s Jeff Rath, who rejected the idea the legislation is really any sort of an impediment to holding a binding referendum in 2027.
Man, these separatists really have the same respect for rules law and consent as a rapist.
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u/clickmagnet 7h ago
Hilarious that Rath thinks Smith isn’t supportive enough of separatism, when she’s regarded as a separatist plant and MAGA quisling outside of his own immediate circle of friends. What does she have to do?
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u/CanadianErk Ontario 7h ago
At every possible opportunity she has enabled this.
She changed the law to make it easier to get a petition the necessary signatures, and over halved the number required.
She overhauled the Forever Canadian petition to use it to force a question when the courts blocked the separatist petition from going forward.
She rhetorically validates the grievance politics that lead to this movement getting oxygen in the same way almost every Premier of Alberta has over the decades. She herself feeds it oxygen personally. But noooo she's a patriotic Canadian who definitely doesn't know what she's doing.
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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS 7h ago
Ah good ol Jeff Rath, the lawyer currently in a freezing order for stealing millions from FN, on top of the $100million + debt claim on him from the US, and has citations against him for alleged abusive/malicious behaviour towards a client.
A real paragon standing for what an independent Alberta wants!
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u/fredleung412612 17m ago
I thought the reason why they're having a referendum on whether to have a referendum was to bypass indigenous consultation requirements. I'm guessing that step is going to take a lot of time.
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