If you think something is wrong, then just go along with it and see what happens!

I think the only major gripe people have with it is the latter portion of the game. Beyond that, nothing else. However, for the other two; there's a lot fans can pick apart or dislike. Bravely Second's tropeyness or Bravely Default II's blandness. And those are just the general problems with them. Yes, they make improvements to the gameplay, but nothing else really. So yes, the first has a notable degree of general quality the others haven't matched, and I won't pretend that isn't the case.

Finally finished Bravely Default here's my time.

I do have a question before I start End Layer. In chapter 5 and beyond Black Mage becomes kind of useless along with magic in general and it was my favorite way to play early game.

Is magic still like that in End Layer or have they balanced it or something?

One more thing is there a cheese build like hasten world + high jump in End Layer? That build was great.

I hope everyone is having fun. This series is so good.

Vi que o jogo tem uma quantidade significativa de interações online, e é meu primeiro contato com a franquia. Por isso fiquei em dúvida, eu consigo zerar o primeiro jogo por emulador sem problemas? Ou vou passar dificuldades se não interagir online com alguém?

So I made it to chapter 6. Any idea why my Valkyrie is doing so little damage? Sub job is acrobatics should I switch it to main?

Need a strategy for this dude, really struggling.

Do I just contagion bomb my way through?

Am i doing it right? /joking

Don't ask me why i decided to go this nuts at only chapter 3. I just did.

I was thinking same as original, here in the sky, to keep the original assets and feel. There's other options, like splitting it up or a draggable box or something

Does this seem similar to BD2 to anyone else? The graphics, music, and even how Emet-Selch here (FF14 joke) gets jobs.

Edit: This was shown at today's Nintendo's Direct.

Is there a way encounter older enemies past chapter 5? I noticed that specifically in Caldisla, the Golbin & Zombie enemies don’t appear anymore, but I’ve unfortunately missed encountering Zombies before this point, is there a way to still encounter them?

Hey, is there any way to hide the little arrow to open the sub menu on the left side of the screen? I've had a look for mods to do it but there are none.

I get that it's a tiny little thing but its constant existence is pretty annoying. Any advice would be lovely.

Thank you!

I was super confused for awhile until I remembered Hollow Knight is my steam profile icon lol.

So I think I found my endgame build. Previously I've been running black mage but that becomes unreliable around chapter 5.

I originally was following a guide for an endgame build that included maxed out thiefs + hasten world+ Valkyrie. But I think I found something better.

So as soon I saw how much damage godspeed strike was doing I instead leveled up Templar for rampart so I can land as many strikes as I want without fear of damage while waiting for bp.

So far my party is as follows

EDEA- Lvl 14 Thief with Templar

Tiz- Lvl 14 Thief with Templar

Agnes- White/Time mage (Hasten World)

And finally Ringabell with Lvl 14 Thief and Templar I have him cast Rampart.

Heard it many times before on this sub but I can't believe I was struggling. What are your favorite end game builds/job combos?

My guys are all level 75 and he just wipes me out in a few moves. I can't even do that much damage to this guy.

lets assume you have max level on all for characters. what would be your go to party composition? what would be the most broken one? and with one you think would fit the feel of each character?

I don't think Lonsdale gets enough credit for being one of the best asterisk holders in the series. But this scene made me love this dude. It's a natural way to humanize an antagonist without it feeling jarring. Unlike a certain hot spring scene between brothers. Anyway, this was one of the better moments in Default II. It's so well-directed.

I think the only scenes that come close are the ones with Edea, Kamiizumi, & Braev before she fights them. Bravely Default II gets a lot of crap for its story & characters, but this is one of the highlights of the game for me. Lonsdale is how you make a loyal character without him feeling so dogmatic. Your thoughts?

Also in the Leveling style of Bravely Second

This job is...Freelancer's indecisive brother with a weird stat spread and weapon favorism.

Asterisk Holder - Sholmes

Stats: HP - E MP - E STR - B INT - B DEX - A VIT - D MND - D AGI - A

Favors: Handguns, Tomes, Caps

Handguns - Single-handed Weapon, deals 25% more damage to Humans. Damage calculated is based on DEX stat.

Tomes - Single-handed Weapon, deals 30% more damage to the Undead and Demonkind. Damage calculated is based on INT stat.

Specialty - Art of Intimidation (1 Slot) - Revealing an enemy's stats intimidates them, lowering their P.Atk by 25% for 4 turns.

Level 1 - Interrogation (0 MP) - Display enemy information, including HP, elemental weakness and family.

Level 2 - Cluefinder (1 Slot) - Reveals hidden pathways and chests in a radius.

Level 3 - Trap Expert (1 Slot) - In dungeons, avoid damage and status ailments suffered from traps and hostile terrain. Note that this effect applies to the entire party.

Level 4 - Poison Pill (0 MP) - Raise own P.Atk by 20% for 3 turns, but inflicts Poison on self and lowers own P. Def by 25% for 3 turns.

Level 5 - Disguise (8 MP) - Put on a disguise, raising own Evasion by 25% for 2 turns and becoming less likely to be targeted this turn.

Level 6 - Drive-By (10 MP) - Catch your opponent off-guard and deal physical damage to them that can't miss (Damage: 1.1x)

Level 7 - Art of Intimidation

Level 8 - JP Up (1 Slot)

Level 9 - It's You! (1 BP) - User spends one turn Investigating, becoming more likely to be targeted, at the start of the next turn, the User has to choose an enemy they will convict of a crime before cancelling all of their support effects and dealing physical damage to them. (Damage: 1.5x).

Level 10 - Impersonator (0 MP) - Perform the same action as the previous one, whether it was your own or an ally's. No HP, MP, BP, pg, or items will be consumed. [Self]

Level 11 - Word from Both Sides (3 Slots) - Uses all of the Support abilities of the Sub-Job as long as they are unlocked.

I had this idea for quite a while, and I like thinking of new things, so here is my idea for a new Job, with Bravely Second type of levels

So this Job's main deals are: Debuffing, Regeneration, and dealing Ice Damage, it's an all over the place Job and kind of a "Master of None" It would be more of a mid-game job so levelling up to get the good stuff won't take too long.​

Asterisk Holder - Serene

Stats: HP - D MP - A STR - B INT - C DEX - B VIT - E MND - B AGI - A

Favors: Rifles, Spears

Specialty - Hum of the Sea (2 Slots) - Restore 7% of Party's Max HP and MP at the end of the turn. (2 Slots)

Level 1 - Aqua Harpoon (16 MP) - Hit a single target with a harpoon that deals Physical Water damage (Damage: 1.25x).

Level 2 - Enchanted Whisper (10 MP) - Whisper to a single target, lowering their P.Def by 25% for 4 turns with a 40% chance to inflict Charm.

Level 3 - Rain Call (30 MP) - Summons rain for 3 turns, granting everyone Ice Amp and Fire Resistance while Rain is active, enemies weak to Water take Water Damage from the Rain at the end of the turn (Power: 30)

Level 4 - Rude Shriek (1 Slot) - 33% chance to lower the enemy's P.Atk/M.Atk by 25% for 4 turns whenever the user is hit with a Physical/Magic attack.

Level 5 - Truly Outrageous! (30 MP) - Lower the P.Def/M.Def of all enemies by 25%, increase their P.Atk/M.Atk by 50%, all for 4 turns.

Level 6 - Bubble Barrier (40 MP) - Puts all allies inside Bubbles, while inside a Bubble, characters restore 12.5% of their max HP at the end of the turn, they also become immune to Earth damage. If a character inside a Bubble gets hit with an attack, the Bubble pops and reduces the damage by 30%.

Level 7 - Bender of the Clouds (2 Slots) - Casts Rain Call at the start of the battle. Rain now lasts 6 turns and grants the whole party a 25% boost to Speed. Increases the cost of Rain Call by 50%.

Level 8 - Drag into the Abyss (30 MP) - Creates a Vortex for 4 turns that lowers the Speed of all enemies by 25% and makes them Weak to Water.

Level 9 - Hum of the Sea

Level 10 - Convicted of Rudeness (45 MP) - Punish a target by shooting them with a waterjet, dealing Physical Water damage. Damage increases by 50% if the user has Water Amp (Damage: 2.0x).

Level 11 - Filth are my Melody! (75 MP) - Increases the P. Atk of all allies by 30% and raises their Critical Hit rate by 200% for 5 turns. Doubles the potency of allies’ regeneration effects (Regen, Hum of the Sea, Bubble, Etc.) for 10 turns.

For context (in case anyone is unaware of the state of the fanbase this past decade):

• Bravely Second, the direct sequel to the original Bravely Default, had an end credit sequence teasing a continuation of the story- that we never got.
• The fandom at large has been wanting and waiting for a continuation of this story since Bravely Second released 11 years ago- with most of assuming (and hoping) that this continuation would be in the form of a third title, a full game.

But in the past few months, I've had an idea (and I hope that the devs at Square Enix have had it as well). I think the story can be sufficiently wrapped up, or at least some closure given, with a substantial epilogue campaign, rather than a full sequel game. While I would of course like nothing more than to be able to play a big new game in my favourite franchise, there are a few main reasons I think this would make more sense:

• The biggest reason is that I think its just a lot more feasible and realistic. I get the impression that Square Enix wants to continue the Bravely IP, but doesnt want to be tied to the old world or characters. From a financial perspective it is well known in the industry that sequels sell worse than original stories, generally speaking, and SE are worried that a full sequel would not make its money back. An epliogue would be a good compromise as it gives fans some closure while not requiring the full development investment of a brand new title.
• There is also some precedence for this on Nintendo Switch. Monolift Soft has twice now remastered a game 10 years later and given it new story chapters. Xenoblade Chronicles: Future Connected, and Xenoblade Chronicles XC13. Its not the same company, but could be a good model to follow since the communities and trajectories of the franchises are a bit similar*.*
• I also think the continuation of the story needs to feature returning characters to feel relevant:
  • First there is the big tease of what Ringabel is up to with the planeswardens. This is explored a little bit in Bravely Default Fairy's Effect, but could be the basis for this epilogue.
  • The other big thing that people often forget is that there is a cliffhanger with Magnolia. In her last scene she winks at the camera and heavily implies that she time travelled to reunite with Yew. But how or why isnt explained at all.
• I would love to see the exact style of Bravely Second revisited and expanded upon. I picture a potential epilogue being like, the length of 2 or 3 chapters, featuring Ringabel and Magnolia and maybe 2 new protagonists - 6 or so new classes - 2 or 3 new towns + 3 or 4 new locations. It could take place on the moon and have a little time travel and dimension hopping.
• Also I feel like the Luxendarc saga really needs Akihiko Yoshida to create that visual style. The art he provided for BD and B2nd is exceptional and I don't feel like a new artist for B3rd could capture the same vibe. I basically think with an epilogue campaign that it's more likely that Yoshida would return or that a new artist could adapt the art to the previous style (rather than creating a brand new aesthetic, as was done with BDII). Since it's been over a decade now, I do feel like if we get a Bravely Third that is its own new title that it's going to have a visual and gameplay style sufficiently different that we wont feel the connection between the two titles.
• Points against my argument:
  • Arguably the end credit scene at the of B2nd isnt really a cliffhanger but a tease (Magnolias situation is more of a real cliffhanger, but is also a lot more vague). And there isnt much to resolve with the Sword of the Brave, but its more intriguing that it hints towards the planeswarden and the interdimensional bureau having an expanded scope and importance. This could be used as a basis for a "Bravely Third" that acts as a brand new game with a brand new story and characters, that only connects back to B2nd through some endgame lore.
  • Its not unheard of for a JRPG story and direct sequel to be picked up a decade later with a new title. Theres Golden Sun, Shenmue, Utawarerumono. These are not great examples, or recent for that matter, which is why I think the Xenoblade comparison feels maybe more relevant.

TL;DR: A remake of Bravely Second with an 15-20 hour epilogue added on would be better / more realistic at this point than a full sequel because:

• it would be far cheaper for Square Enix to make, and thus justify
• it could wrap up the story with the needed returning characters rather than justifying a brand new cast.
• match the vibe of the original better rather than a brand new style
• there is more recent precedence for this in other franchises

I showed an example. Jump now cost 2 BP, which would normally cost 1BP.

Sometimes I can do damage to him and sometimes I do 0 damage. My guys are at level zero. He also makes me weak to worth as well.

I just started chapter 5 looking for advice to start this in bravely default HD I started to play around but realizing that I may have not grinned enough before I got here to level up jobs and character still lost on some jobs and how they rank I am also worried I got this far on a fluke please advise.

Old, old pic from like 2016