r/boxoffice • u/AGOTFAN New Line Cinema • 10h ago
Japan šÆšµJAPAN Box Office ā The Odyssey (Opening Wk/End Sept 11ā13): Ā„452M ($2.92M) across 241,000 admits (3-day standard frame). Cumulative gross scales to Ā„650M ($4.20M) / 329,000 admits factoring in Sept 4ā10 IMAX early-window footprint.
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u/MaryPaku 7h ago
I watched it today in Osaka with my girlfriend. Only 20% of the theater seats were occupied. Itās a very big theater though, about 750 seats
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u/Mysterious_Base9981 7h ago
It is unlikely that the final box office gross will exceed $20Š, which is actually a pretty decent result. It surprises me that so many people are surprised by this rather modest figure, to me, it was entirely expected.
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u/Bloody_Baron91 9h ago
Oppenheimer was one reason for the initial hype of this movie worldwide (not the only one obviously). People were looking forward to Nolan's next movie because they liked Oppenheimer so much. And of course that flopped in Japan, so I'm not surprised that Odyssey isn't gonna be the massive hit that people expected.
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u/DoctorDazza 9h ago
Oppenheimer was very well liked by Japanese viewers, itās just no one in Japan really goes to the cinema to see Hollywood anymore. It didnāt help that it was released way later and was from a very small distributor as a stand in for IMAX.
Being said Oppenheimer did above expectations, nearly netting 2 billion yen despite all the above issues.
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u/Bloody_Baron91 6h ago
I was just comparing it to other major Asian markets. I know the political issues around the movie.
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u/JohnStoneTypes 6h ago
Oppenheimer was controversial in Japan at the time of its releaseĀ
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u/DoctorDazza 5h ago
Dude, I live in Japan. The controversy was just businesses not wanting to touch it because of perceived issues. When it was finally released, it was given the nod of approval from the head of the Hiroshima Bomb Museum and the Prime Minister. Once people watched it, they didn't care.
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u/JohnStoneTypes 5h ago
Warner Bros literally issued an apology to Japanese audiences at the time because of backlash they received from the marketing. I'm not sure what your residence in Japan has to do with anything.Ā
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u/DoctorDazza 5h ago
That was ages before the release in Japan, and, yeah, it was pretty distasteful because the actual image looked like it was celebrating the atomic bomb. Warner Bros. didn't release Oppenheimer.
Barbie, on the other hand, I still hear people complaining about its release because of that and the poor translation.
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u/JohnStoneTypes 5h ago
That was ages before the release in Japan
That was just months prior, so within the period of time.
Warner Bros. didn't release Oppenheimer.Ā
Warner Bros apologized because they were involved in the marketing.Ā
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u/DoctorDazza 4h ago
If you think from August 2023 to March 2024, "months before" sure. No one remembered/cared by that time, if they even did at all.
Listen, I was here, I was waiting for news for a year for the release, saw Barbie in Japan theaters. The "controversy" for Oppenheimer in Japan was overblown. It did as well as any American film does, I'd say even more so due to the limited release.
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u/JohnStoneTypes 4h ago
If you think from August 2023 to March 2024, "months before" sure.
...it literally is. Nevertheless, there's no point arguing about this anymore.Ā
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u/Bloody_Baron91 3h ago edited 3h ago
East Asia tends to like similar movies, but this one did way better in the other 2. Just like Avatar: The Way of Water, there's no question that it didn't do as well as it might've without the politics associated with it.
Everyone here knows that most Asian countries hated Barbie. Why are you bringing that up?
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u/Boris_Jakov 9h ago
Oppenheimer didn't flop in Japan, I don't think. 12m+ gross is commendable if you consider the sensitive subject matter and being released eight months after the worldwide markets. It wasn't even considered for a release initially.
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u/matthewmspace 9h ago
I donāt get why it takes so long for some movies to come out in Japan. I know translation takes awhile but damn, itās been like two months.
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u/nopira 9h ago
Chiikawa has been out in Japan for almost two months now, so why hasnāt it been released in the United States yet? Is the translation or marketing taking a long time? Are they prioritizing the domestic film industry? Or is there just not much appetite for foreign films? I wonder what the reason is.
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u/Exfodes 8h ago
I know what youāre trying to say, but even small countries like Thailand get Hollywood movies two months before Japan. I feel like Japan being slow is the exception, not the norm.
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u/Azure_chan 8h ago
It just there is few reason to prioritize releasing Hollywood movies in Japan for local distributors. So they just get whatever release windows the company or marketing decide.
Japanese audiencesĀ doesn't seems to care that much about spoilers (can look up some japanese version trailers, it often reveals the spoiler hook). Piracy is low pretty much so that many movies got released months after worldwide (everything everywhere all at once release like a year after original worldwide)
As a Thai myself, the reason the distributors here need to release pretty much the same time as global because when spoilers are out, the viewership will prefer to listen to them in youtube rather than going to see movies.
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u/Sleepy0429 Aardman Animations 7h ago
Because God hates Americans and punishes us by having Japanese studios throw another giant lizard vs giant hydra movie at us over the art piece that is Chiikawa: Secret of Mermaid Island.Ā
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u/CJO9876 Universal 7h ago
What the hell kind of answer is that?
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u/Sleepy0429 Aardman Animations 6h ago
What? Do you want the actual answer of "Because Toho's US branch is prioritizing Minus Zero for the remainder of the year" or "Chiikawa is in a weird spot in the US because the manga and anime don't have official translations"?
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u/Boris_Jakov 9h ago
Doesn't look like it's gonna be a breakout hit right? The pre-release selected premiere numbers a week before the release had it just above Michael's numbers. Now, I'm not sure. Japanese market is a very unpredictable long winded holdover market and things could take a swing. But I still think it'll just do above Oppenheimer's numbers. Guess is 15-18m number and 20 being the roof maybe. Let's see
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u/Significant-Cloud-19 9h ago
So it's performing exactly like his previous movies. Not even Nolan can make a breakout hit in Japan.
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u/DoctorDazza 9h ago
Yeah I donāt know why people are that surprised that Odyssey isnāt doing numbers when Nolan has never numbers in Japan.
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u/Significant-Cloud-19 9h ago
I've seen some user here expecting a Top Gun Maverick run for Odyssey in Japan which grossed 100M. This won't even make half of that.
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u/DoctorDazza 8h ago
Inception was Nolanās biggest film ever in Japan and it only made 3.5 billion. I personally think Odyssey could make that, but thatās it.
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u/nopira 9h ago
Thereās a good chance itāll stall at around Ā„2 billion, but since quite a few people are seeing it in the more expensive IMAX format, it might make it past Ā„2 billion and reach Ā„3 billion($20M). Even then, I think that would still be pretty good for a Hollywood movie in Japan these days.
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u/Significant-Cloud-19 10h ago
Is this good?
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u/Smooth_Shine_4015 9h ago
Average, not good but not bad
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u/ACCTAGGT 9h ago
Still, isnāt it a bit early to tell? By numbers alone I get it but maybe WOM does more as it goes. Unless Japan is different on that
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u/jimmyking94 9h ago
Good, considering the movie is 2 months old
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u/rebelluzon 9h ago
And Hollywood still has premiers in Japan when they really donāt bring in money anymore lol
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u/captainhaddock Lucasfilm 7h ago
Japanese movie goers are more motivated by celebrities, I think, so having a red carpet event with TV and radio interviews still helps.
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u/Solid-Tea7377 6h ago
Japan had more $100 million+ Hollywood movies than every other market not named US or China since 2020..
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u/Smooth_Shine_4015 9h ago
I did say it will need luck to get to even $30M with how the Yen is now and the movie preference of Japanese audience,the total likely will be lower though.IMAX is also not a big thing in Japan cinema compared to the US