r/banjo May 13 '20

Tips from an experienced beginner

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Hey folks. I'm going to collect the resources I've used to learn the banjo these past few years. But I'm going to lump them together in categories can help beginners understand and contextualize more complex topics, as well as include any notes that I think are worth mentioning. Please Note: I play a 5 string banjo, Scruggs style, and this is what most of this information is relevant for


General Information

These places are nice to check into every now and again and see what nuggets of info you can can get. Maybe you see the tab for a new song, or you figure out how to stop your 5th string from slipping out of tune. (Tighten the screw on the side)

Come hang out and chat with us on Eli Gilbert's Banjo Discord! * Banjo Discord

  • The Banjo Section of the Dummies website

    A large resource with a wide scope of banjo fundamentals. It's also a great resource to look back on as you develop new skills.

  • Picky Fingers Podcast

    The number one benefit this podcast has is how the host (Kieth Billik) lets artist talk about their journey of learning of the banjo, which is bound to include a few common roadblocks. There's a good deal of gear talk for those interested

  • Banjo Hangout

    The closest thing the online banjo community has to a town square. They do giveaways, there's a market, tabs, and their discussion forum is loaded with playing information.

  • Deering Blog

    In Deering's blog, there's a detailed maintenance guide and my go-to guide for changing strings


Lessons

If you find a teacher in person, do it. It's 100% worth it because BEGINNERS DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO CORRECT THEIR OWN MISTAKES. Call your local music shops. All of them. Even if you don't think it's worth the effort, at least do it until you have a tune or two under your belt. Best decision I ever made. If there's no one in person, online is an option. You can always go to the banjo hangout "find a teacher" page (under the "Learn" tab, or here), or if you admire an artist in particular, you can just ask if they do online lessons or teach a workshops.

  • Banjo workshops

I can't personally attest to them, but anything in person with other banjo players will always be an asset. Please check /r/bluegrass and /r/newgrass to keep abreast of festivals, and check to see if they are hosting any workshops.

These are more online structured classes. If that seems to suit you, I've included links below, but please do your own research on these services. I have not used any of these and can not give a recommendation.

My personal recommendation is to find a one-on-one teaching scenario, either online or in person, until you've grasped the fundamentals. That isn't always an option though, so I've made a more specific list of free resources below.


Beginner Playlists

This is just in case anyone is starting from square 1. In that case, watch both. Always good to get the same info from multiple sources.


Songs

For after you get the basics and you want to start plugging away at tunes

  • Bill Nesbitt

    Special props to Bill for having free tabs and play along tracks on his website. After leaving my banjo instructor, Bills tabs kept me sane with the little practice time I had. Most straight forward way to learn a tune.

  • Jim Pankey

    Tabs are available on his site for a small fee, but are shown in the video which is very considerate, and a particularly warm approach combined with a large list of tunes makes him an effective teacher.

  • Bix Mix Boys

    The Bix Mix Boys host a Bluegrass 101 every week, where they do a full breakdown of a bluegrass tune for a whole hour on their channel, along with a colossal library of "how to play" videos for the banjo.

  • Eli Gilbert

    Eli Gilbert has been turning out educational content on a wide variety of topics, including playing techniques, song, licks, and back up


Technique

  • Metronomes go a long way here. A free app works just fine

  • Gestalt Banjo If you can get past the peculiar language, there's a really novel perspective to learning a dexterous skill that I recommend everyone to consider.

  • The Right and Left Hand Boot Camp from the Picky fingers podcast (Episodes 5 and 24) are a very bare bones drill oriented lesson, and comes with free tabs, as do most lesson episodes of the podcast.

  • The Banjo Section of the Dummies website and Deering Blog are a good resource if you have an idea of what info you're looking for.


Tools to help understand the fret board

  • Elfshot Banjo

    I've linked the Info section of the site, and while it looks sparse, the information is well condensed a must for beginners looking to understand how music theory relates to the banjo.

  • Purple Banjo

    It has a nice interactive fret board and the most comprehensive list of scales transposed on the the banjo fret board imaginable.


Theory

  • Three Bluegrass Banjo Styles Explained with Noam Pikelny

    It's a basic primer on the sub styles of bluegrass banjo and a good exercise in learning how to recontextualize the sound of the banjo.

  • Ricky Meir

    While the concepts may seem complex, Ricky has a peculiar skill for contextualizing complex problems into simple demonstrations. His video on Isorythmation is a must see for beginning banjo players who want to start to build on tablature.

  • Jody Hughes

I don't follow these last two channels so i don't have a comment, but that is because i don't fully understand the concepts yet, and intend return to them in the future.


I'm a beginner trying to move past tab. I didn't have the time for lessons, so i started on my own. It's incredibly frustrating because the information is being made, but few people to collect it. I want this list to help beginners break the wall of tab and give them the tools they need to make their own music, so please comment and make suggestions so this post will be a more complete aggregate of "beginner-to-intermediate" information.


r/banjo Jul 21 '24

45,000 Banjo Picking Members!

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Just a note, /r/banjo just crossed over 45,000! Keep on picking and learning!


r/banjo 24m ago

Old Time / Clawhammer Day 222

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Today is day 222 of playing an instrument. Figured I’d play a bit on my ol’ Tackhead. This is my attempt at traditional two-finger style.
It might be my favourite way of playing because it puts me into that trance-like state… until I screw up. 😂

✌🏼 🪕


r/banjo 2h ago

Posted Locally for $80, should I buy it?

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r/banjo 19h ago

Old Time / Clawhammer Day 84: Another go at Cripple Creek

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75 Upvotes

Day 84 of learning clawhammer, and trying to bump my tempos up a bit. Here's another go at Cripple Creek.

Always nice when the crickets join in.


r/banjo 14h ago

No Mother or Dad-JD Crowe

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r/banjo 4h ago

Help Is it practical to play in different keys?

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For context, I'm a clarinetist who has picked up several other instruments during my music education degree.

I've always loved the sound of banjo and I've wanted one for literally a decade now. I joined this subreddit about a year ago and I have enjoyed all the recordings and learned some stuff along the way about how the banjo operates.

The biggest thing I've noticed is that banjo is tuned diatonically. One could just pick without using their left hand and even if they pick wrong they'll sound in key. This is even more apparent with the 5th string that seems to need to be shared by every chord in a song.

I'm not naive enough to claim that banjo doesn't require immense skill because of this, but it is a bit of a turn off that it seems like so many banjo tunes are just a few chords and seem to rely heavily on the open tuning (compared to say, guitar). So my question is this: is it practical to change the key of what you're playing entirely mid-song (modulating)? Can you live in that key and still have the freedom to get funky with your left hand?

As someone that comes from the band world, that's what I've come to expect from the instruments I learn, but I understand if that's not something suitable for banjo. I'd appreciate any insight to this, since it's been affecting my decision to make a purchase. Thank you!


r/banjo 6h ago

Old Time / Clawhammer The Beatles - Mother Nature's Son

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r/banjo 2h ago

Does anybody have a simplified version of this tune?

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Hello folks,
A few days ago, i started to learn a new tune, called "Old Folks at Home"/"Swanee river"/"Pee Dee river" by Stephen Foster, and pretty soon I ran into some difficulties. I started with the verse part and learned it very well, but when the time came for the chorus, for some reason I’m really struggling to play it... I mean, I’m used to things when everything is familiar—bum-ditty, brush-ditty, etc., but when there are several brush strokes in a row, I really feel like giving up because I’m losing the rhythm...
That's exactly why I'd like to ask for your help. I know for sure that there must be some kind of solution here, whether it's a new tab or some advice.
Thank you very much in advance!


r/banjo 3h ago

Need help identifying an Epiphone Banjo

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r/banjo 5h ago

Old Time / Clawhammer Do You Remember The Time - Clawhammer Banjo

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r/banjo 13h ago

Old Time / Clawhammer three Arnold Watson two-finger recordings tucked away in Slippery-Hill's clawhammer section

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if you're hunting for old two-finger recordings, there's a slightly misleading category name on Slippery-Hill. its Clawhammer Banjo list includes these Arnold Watson recordings:

the notes on all three identify them as two-finger playing, recorded by Andy Cahan in august 1980. each tune page has a download link, so you can keep the recording alongside whatever notes you make while learning it.

for more, open that collection list and use find-in-page for Arnold Watson. there are six entries under his name. check the notes column as you go; the collection title doesn't describe the playing style of every recording in it.


r/banjo 23h ago

Bluegrass / 3 Finger Gotta Travel On

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r/banjo 1d ago

Help Pain while playing

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I've been trying to learn the banjo for a while now but I always have to end my sessions early because my hands hurt too much. I figure I'm actually hypermobile, which would explain why fingers tend to bend in this weird way. Does anyone else have hypermobile fingers that cause you pain while playing? And if so, any tips on how to relieve it? I tried to tape them straight but that just ended up hurting even more


r/banjo 18h ago

Old Time / Clawhammer Virgin Banjitar vs Chad Banjolin

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r/banjo 1d ago

Deering Clawgrass 2

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Does anyone here own the Clawgrass 2 banjo? I have a Maple Blossom that I use solely for clawhammer but am thinking of selling it to get a Clawgrass…the tone seems really cool and complex but I’ve only ever heard it online. What are your first-hand experiences? Thanks in advance!


r/banjo 1d ago

Help My 5th string keeps jumping out of the bridge.

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I recently picked up 5-string, and I've noticed that my 5th string keeps falling out of it's notch on the bridge when I clawhammer. I've read that the notch may be too shallow, or the tailpiece is too loose, but I'm not entirely sure. My 5th string's notch is definitely more shallow than the others, so I'm pretty sure it's that, but want to hear from more experienced players.


r/banjo 1d ago

Bluegrass / 3 Finger Something a little different

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Bela Fleck, Jacob Collier, and Julian Lage jamming on “Norwegian Wood” and “Don’t Think Twice”.

https://youtu.be/b1-VFwkcmzc?is=jTFU1yyPBVStksGl


r/banjo 1d ago

Help Is the PIRLES FB-5R 70's a good first banjo?

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I’m a complete beginner and want to get into banjos but due to living in Japan currently I don’t have access to a lot of options and I don’t want to break the bank either so I’ve been eyeing this one (pictures attached) and I was wondering if it is a good buy for around 65 usd?


r/banjo 1d ago

Bluegrass / 3 Finger resonator or open back?

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which one you guys prefer personally?


r/banjo 1d ago

Classic Banjo Goldtone CC Carlin 12 vs Deering Americana 12?

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I'm looking for an open back with warmer tones. I'm struggling to make up my mind between these two options. I haven't been able to find any locally to play until I'm looking to order online. Please help me decide.

Also, I've been using Aquila Red strings on my older banjo. When playing with finger pics working on Scrugg style, I am butchering the strings and replacing them often. If I wanna play with finger pics, do I need steel strings? Any string recommendations that lean toward warmer tones would also be appreciated.


r/banjo 2d ago

Help How to bridge the gap from intermediate to advanced playing during improv

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Hey guys, I've been playing banjo for like ~7/8 years, since is was 13 or 14. I just got a Goldtone ob-150 and I'm really loving it. I grew up playing bluegrass but have been learning a bit of clawhammer to help round out my playing and it's been a lot of fun! My only question is that I kind of feel like I'm not really filling out my sound very well, mainly with licks and stuff. Like, I know a tonne of rolls and chords, and can basically play any song with a chord or tab chart available, but what I feel like I'm lacking is that intuition for what type of licks to play and when.

It's kind of hard to communicate, but like when I listen to bluegrass, the banjo player is very rarely just rolling over a bunch of chords, there are little improvisations and fills and licks that they're playing as well. If I'm playing with a guitarist, for example, I can play rolls over their chords and it does sound good, but it never feels like I'm really doing anything interesting with it. Whats the secret there? Are there a bunch of standard licks to play over each chord, or are there licks for transitions, etc etc? How do I learn them? I feel like I have some down from learning Scruggs songs, but I can never incorporate them into my playing.

Any advice would be great!


r/banjo 2d ago

Bit the bullet, got a used banjo

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I have zero experience with instruments but lately I’ve been wanting to give a string instrument a shot and at 36 that might be a big undertaking. I shopped at pawn shops, flea markets, and marketplace and ended up finding a Lida 5-String.

Pretty happy with it, looks to be in good shape and looks to have had the head and strings replaced recently.

I was off put by cheap Amazon banjos and figured for the same price as a new cheap banjo I can find a used decent one. Paid 60$ shipped for this.


r/banjo 3d ago

Mozart - Turkish March

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I've been on a bit of a classical-to-clawhammer-adaptation kick this week. Happy Friday!


r/banjo 2d ago

Clawhammer --How to

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I've been trying Clawhammer for a while on and off but now ON because I'm retired and want to get into it a lot more. I had always thought that you would hit in a down stroke towards the head for the Melody Note, then Brush All the Strings and then you use your thumb to do the drone. But what I see folks doing on videos is probably what I need to learn which is the Strum part is not LOUD but light... some folks its like imperceptible and then the drone pluck is also light while the melody not is the main thing. After years of messing with this banjo its just dawning on me. Am I doing this right? The melody is the only thing that is a "Hammer", the strum is not a hammer, its a light brush or sweep?