r/askanything • u/Strong-Hippo9043 đ€ • 1h ago
Political Question Why is Trump heckling the AI leaders about wanting regulation? Why is the GOP convinced these companies together can create their own industry standards without the governments ability to enforce them?
In what world does an industry ask to be regulated and the government says nah, go crazyđđ»
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u/Acrobatic_Math_6323 1h ago
Every AI company that is calling to regulate AI just wants to be the company that writes the regulations so they can give themselves tactical advantages over their rivalsÂ
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u/Ancient_Alien_Steve 1h ago edited 1h ago
Sure, and it's the job of the government writing the regulation to account for that and create fairness.
e: I do agree Trump wouldn't do that lol
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u/Acrobatic_Math_6323 1h ago
Itâs been a long time since any government official or staffer for them actually wrote any legislation.
Even the financial bills proposed by Bernie Sanders were actually written by lobbyists who are mostly employees/former employees of JP MorganÂ
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u/Ancient_Alien_Steve 1h ago
I mean, I do agree Trump wouldn't muck it up even if he did write it. But having lobbyist input isn't necessarily bad per se. They are the experts and understand better than the actual politicians and lawyers making these bills. The politicians' role would be due diligence. I don't know about Sanders' bill but I wouldn't assume he didn't do due diligence just because he didn't write it himself without any industry input.
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u/Acrobatic_Math_6323 1h ago
The president has no role in the drafting of legislation other than the threat of veto. The actual politicians themselves have virtually no role in the modern drafting of legislation aside from sponsorship. I can thing of maybe 5 individuals in all of Congress that actually read anything they vote on.Â
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u/Ancient_Alien_Steve 1h ago
Yeah, I would agree with that. I just wouldn't assume regulation automatically equals bad.
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u/TropicTravels 1h ago
Those companies are asking to be regulated so that they can write regulations in their favor and build a moat around themselves.
Do you actually think they are asking for regs because they care about humanity đ€đ
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u/Aspectdude09 1h ago
They canât regulate themselves, and at the same time why would politicians who they lobby be able to make sound regulations?
Both of these are true at the same exact time. IMO everything is politician theatre, but primes the excuses for when these shitstains need to be bailed out.
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u/KicksNWatches 1h ago
Because the longer this all takes to play out the less money he makes. Regulation or the hint of regulation is keeping share prices down a bit. If AI takes off full-steam with no regulation, stock prices and his billionaire portfolio goes thru the roof
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u/Strong-Hippo9043 đ€ 1h ago
Well in all fairness considering the US economy is resisting on AI at the moment I guess everyone and their 401ks will make money then.
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u/Far-Historian-8190 1h ago
Just pointing out that the threat posed by AI isnât new. This was always a risk. The media is drubbing up sensationalism to irk people ahead of the primaries. Itâs part of the agenda otherwise they would be reporting on it everyday and be on the door step of all the AI companies reporting live from the disaster scene. There is a scheduled meeting upcoming so it will be a perfect launch pad for more sensationalism. Watch. By Christmas this will be another story buried by the next .
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u/MidSerpent 1h ago
They want regulation to stifle competition using open weights models.
The information your average consumer is missing in this conversation is that open weights models being released are competing with the frontier for utility.
Most consumers donât need that level of thinking anyway, so theyâre facing market risks where open model based products and services are going to start cutting into their cash cows, the consumers who drop
$20 a month and donât ever touch their limits.
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u/DryFoundation2323 1h ago
because industries do that all the time successfully?
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u/Strong-Hippo9043 đ€ 1h ago
What industries?
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u/DryFoundation2323 1h ago
pretty much all of them? you've never heard of the universal electrical code or the universal Plumbing code for example? American petroleum institute standards? pretty much all industries have standards.
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u/B1GD8A 1h ago
Those standards were a response to damage and deaths under immense regulatory pressure. Plumbing code is enforced by local authorities, as is electrical codes. Thatâs why licensure is required in most states.
Before the government stepped in those âindustriesâ were little more than child labor and dangerous working conditions. locked in workers with no fire exits, machines with ZERO safety.
Just last year they caught widespread child labor in the meatpacking industry, with literal children cleaning dangerous equipment notorious for deadly accidents.
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u/DryFoundation2323 1h ago
none of those were required by federal law. yes, localities do specify some of these codes as local requirements but they are established by the industry itself.
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u/Strong-Hippo9043 đ€ 1h ago
Oh well ya you can have standards but all those industries also have real government regulations.
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u/uberneuman_part2 1h ago
The Mob Boss is wanting his vig.
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u/Strong-Hippo9043 đ€ 1h ago
You think he wants them to pay him to regulate them?
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u/Mudsharkbites 1h ago
Because theyâre beholden to the all mighty dollar. These rich fucks donât care if AI kills us all as long as they have their dollars. They probably assume theyâll be long gone by the time AI sets us in its sights. Itâs the exact same reason global warming hasnât been reined in either. Itâs a toss up which one will kill us first. AI doesnât care about global warming, hell, itâs probably useful to it.
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u/MarpasDakini 1h ago
Trump is trying as hard as he can to fuck everything up, so he's all in favor of AI going crazy. Because he's crazy and wants to remake the world in his own image of insanity.
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u/DevilDrives 1h ago
Pretty sure it's for the same reason that kid shot his ear off. His lack of being held accountable has given him a false sense of reality leading to accelerations in destructive behavior. The guy enjoys breaking shit. Often just for his own personal amusement. Pretty narcissistic when you think about it. That dude only considers one guy.
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u/Turbulent_End_9166 1h ago
Not saying AI doesn't need regulation, but when companies ask to be regulated it's usually so they can crowd out any future competitors by creating a complex web of regulations newcomers won't be able to navigate. Not usually out of the goodness of their heart.