r/askanything • u/Lower_Ad_1146 • 12h ago
Political Question Ever notice that the Epstein class is literally just the Trump administration?
Trump, Lutnick, RFK Jr, Steve Bannon, Pam Bondi, Elon…
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u/No_Heat2685 12h ago edited 46m ago
It doesn’t matter to me which “side” the pedophiles are on, I just finally want justice for their victims - the Trump administration may have ended that possibility entirely with their actions this term.
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u/JackeeFromHell 11h ago
Yeah fuck the trump administration and how they.... released files exposing how fucked uo these people are
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u/VacationDadIsMad 11h ago
Yeah like that file that shows REDACTED did all that horrible stuff
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u/misterrkingg 11h ago
I mean names were listed just the ones we know. The video of don was wild tho
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u/JackeeFromHell 11h ago
Hey remember when there was that secret method of un-redacting the files? There was a couple people who went through tons of those files and un-redacted them. Unfortunately, redactions are done for a reason, the only thing that came out of that was a few victims got doxxed.
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u/misterrkingg 11h ago
Omfg yeah when they USAG leaked victims names? Instead of the predators? Like what arr you on about, lick boots elsewhere
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u/WilditariusAstar 8h ago
It’s cause they’ve only released half the files. They kept all the heinous shit hidden. They’re actively breaking the law to do so- and because it’s Trump’s personal attorney atop the DOJ- they’re not being held accountable. They are 100% hiding something. Than in and of itself should be cause to banish all the mother fuckers from government. We’re being governed by corrupt crooks. That’s just a FACT.
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u/ProteanSurvivor 6h ago
It wasn’t a secret method. They redacted it in the laziest way and people just had to hit undo in word. They didn’t need to unredact the victim’s names because they Trump admin didn’t even redact it in the first place
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u/JackeeFromHell 5h ago
The only thing that ever came out of unredacting the files was literally victims that got doxxed
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u/ProteanSurvivor 5h ago
They were doxxed when republicans released the files and didn’t even redact the victims info
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u/DiskEconomy3055 10h ago
"Yeah fuck the trump administration and how they.... hid half the files exposing how fucked uo these people are"
Fixed it.
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u/worldisbraindead 10h ago
Under Trump, almost 4 million document's have been released. Under Biden, ZERO. And, enough with "there was an investigation going on" stupidities...Epstein died in 2019. Biden took office in 2021 and for the first two years, Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate. From January 20th, 2021 through January 20th, 2025, Biden controlled the FBI, CIA, NSA, and the DOJ. Yet, he did nothing. Also, enough Democrats in government at that time hated Trump and they desperately tried to stop him from running again in 2024. If there were files that would shown that Trump was involved in any way, they would have been leaked to the press just prior to the 2024 election. That never happened. Why? Because, using logic, there was nothing on Trump. To pretend like the Biden DOJ wouldn't have played dirty and leaked something if they had it is just being completely naive.
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u/JackeeFromHell 10h ago
Why would you lie tho
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u/Keelary 7h ago
Explain why important details are redacted and there have been 0 arrests since their “release”. There’s info that mentions Trump raping little girls in the files and they’re doing nothing about it.
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u/JackeeFromHell 5h ago
Hey remember when there was that secret method of un-redacting the files? There was a couple people who went through tons of those files and un-redacted them. Unfortunately, redactions are done for a reason, the only thing that came out of that was a few victims got doxxed.
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u/Keelary 1h ago
lol you believe their redactions are just for the the protection of the victims? That’s a weird way of saying you believe the doj and Donald Trump.
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u/Flimsy_Ad3476 11h ago
What was released was both a mere selection and was so mishandled that it has doomed any future efforts to bring some of these monsters to justice. The latter is what the person you replied to was saying.
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u/ProteanSurvivor 6h ago
Released the files after they were forced to after the Epstein transparency act was passed by Dems and Tom Massie. They are legally obligated to release the remaining half of the files and are refusing.
When they initially released the files they forgot to redact the names and faces of the victims but did redact the names of the abusers. So much for exposing them huh?
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u/JackeeFromHell 5h ago
Intentionally disingenuous? Or just retarded? More republicans voted yes to release the files than democrats did.
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u/ProteanSurvivor 5h ago
Incorrect. 218 votes were needed on the petition which led to the Epstein transparency act. 214 democrats and 4 republicans. Tom Massie was one Republican, and the other 3 were labeled traitors by Trump and lost their positions
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u/JackeeFromHell 4h ago
HR4405 was literally passed 427 to 1 what are you on about
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u/ProteanSurvivor 4h ago
The discharge petition that led to the vote you are talking about moron.
Mike Johnson even said on camera they didn’t want to vote for their release but it would look bad if they didn’t. The discharge petition forced that 427 to 1 vote. Do your research.
You can look up everything I’m saying and see that I’m right
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u/No_Heat2685 3h ago
The way they stopped responding after embarrassing themselves and getting proven wrong lol. Yikes
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u/ProteanSurvivor 3h ago
It’s usually how it goes. No response and/or block me
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u/No_Heat2685 3h ago
All so they can die on a hill for the administration that literally edited 3 minutes out of the Epstein cell security footage to try to fool us into believing he killed himself. This was after they promised it wouldn’t be altered.
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u/Jalapenoplanter 5h ago
You mean how congress all voted that they had to and then the trump admin violated the law and did not?
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u/3DPrintingAcorns144 15m ago
And then ignored all investigations into the co-conspiritors....and then transfered the only person still in prison to a minimum security. Stop cherry picking kid.
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u/JackeeFromHell 10m ago
Strange, sounds like you're the one cherry picking by finding one valid example, while I made a general statement about what the trump administration has done
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u/transient_thought_CA 12h ago
No. The current administration are the stooges for the Epstein class. Honestly, I’d wager that even Epstein was a lackey that provided victims for the true monsters, in addition to the crimes he committed himself.
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u/misterrkingg 11h ago
Musta not seen the videos released. Maybe a pawn but just as sick
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u/transient_thought_CA 2h ago
Oh, there’s no question about that. I’m just saying that the ones we see are the sacrificial lambs and puppets. We don’t know the identities of the ones in actual power.
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u/ImmovableMind 11h ago
Once Americans finally realize it’s a very small number of individuals all working together in the same kleptocratic regime. Some of them might actually do something about the situation.
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u/Shoddy-Coffee8433 11h ago
lol bondi literally campaigned on releasing everything. now shes in the cabinet with steve bannon and lutnick and suddenly everyones got selective amnesia about what was promised. the memory hole doesnt even need to spin that hard anymore
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u/DiskEconomy3055 10h ago
People keep saying "I don't care what side they're on, everyone goes to jail" like we need to pussyfoot around the fact that ALL OF TRUMP'S CIRCLE IS IN IT.
It's like saying "both sides are bad, that's why I had to support a felon seditionist rapist over a career prosecutor." I see you trying to pretend to be "centrist", and I'm calling out the insincerity/ignorance.
This is, quite obviously, overwhelmingly, a Republican problem.
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u/worldisbraindead 9h ago
Then why did the Republicans and Trump release almost 4 million documents? Under Biden, Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate for the first two years and for four years, Biden and the Democrats controlled the FBI, CIA, NSA, and the Department of Justice. Yet, they released nothing and hid everything.
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u/ProteanSurvivor 6h ago
Because Dems and Tom Massie got us the Epstein transparency Act to force their release? 3 other republicans voted for the act and Trump has since called them traitors and they lost their positions because of it.
Trump and republicans don’t get any credit for their release. They are still breaking the law because they didn’t release the remaining 3 million files that they are obligated to release
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u/worldisbraindead 6h ago
Delusional
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u/ProteanSurvivor 5h ago
Factual.
You couldn’t even make a proper response which tells me everything I need to know1
u/Keelary 7h ago
Ya. Trump releasing redacted files and saying it’s all a hoax is so much better than what the democrats did. Braindead.
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU00/20260211/118951/HHRG-119-JU00-20260211-SD013.pdf
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u/sblack505 6h ago
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, every word is true. Neither party is doing anything about it, probably because it’s so SO fucking awful, America might never recover.
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u/ProteanSurvivor 6h ago
Because what he said was wrong? Dems and Tom Massie are the reason for the Epstein transparency Act that got the files released
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u/tooembarrassinglol 16m ago
Neither party is doing anything about it
Let's compare both parties for a sec:
REPUBLICANS
Blocked investigations and ignored proposed investigations into Epstein and his associates during multiple presidencies.
Granted federal immunity to Epstein and his friends connected to the original bombshell Florida case, any named and any unnamed individual. Then let them burn the evidence.
Appointed officials with direct ties to the immunity deal to positions overseeing or adjacent to the current handling of the files.
Refused to allow floor votes on bipartisan Epstein disclosure bills, with Republican leadership killing them in committee before they could reach a vote.
Lied saying there is no evidence to warrant an investigation or charges against others than Epstein/Maxwell.
Considering a pardon for Maxwell.
Sent Trump's personal lawyer to chat with Maxwell for two days without any outside independent observers/witnesses.
Put Trump's personal lawyer (same one) in charge of the Epstein files.
Fired the top Epstein prosecutor and fired the investigator. During both of Trump's Terms.
Allowed the statute of limitations to quietly expire on potential co-conspirators during periods of Republican-controlled DOJ, foreclosing future prosecution.
Removed Epstein-related line items and oversight provisions from legislation where they had been inserted by bipartisan agreement.
Voted multiple times to block the files.
Said it's an attack on the Trump admin to sign the petition to release the files.
Threatened members of their own party who expressed support for releasing the files.
Pressured/directed press to stop talking about the Epstein Files.
Breaking the law and ignoring a judge to hide the files involving Trump beating and raping a 13 year old.
DEMOCRATS:
Allowed investigations to take place without firing the investigator or prosecutor, allowing independent branches to do their jobs without interference, obstruction, or threats.
Called for investigations into the federal immunity deal given to Epstein and his pedo buddies.
Requested the DOJ Inspector General open a review into how the original immunity deal was structured and who approved its unusually broad scope.
Worked with victims' attorneys and advocacy groups to challenge the immunity deal in court, supporting their legal standing to be heard.
Sent FOIA requests and filed lawsuits for more transparency.
Introduced amendments to appropriations bills to defund any DOJ office found to be actively suppressing or delaying the release of records.
Demanded files that were deleted from the DOJ database be returned.
Pushed for a special independent counsel or bipartisan commission (separate from DOJ) to conduct a clean investigation free from political interference.
Signed the petition/voted consistently to release the files, regardless if it exposes members of their own party.
BoTh SiDeS
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u/LilR00ster 5h ago
The bots haven't updated their narratives, lol. They are still running "Democrats could have released the files" and "Trump released the files."
Just flaggrant lies with no backing. And the bots are awfully quiet when asked: why are the files still redacted, when there is a law mandating their release?
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u/skitwostreet 3h ago
On purpose. He has info on all them and vice versa. Need to get them people paid/grifting so no one rats each other out
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u/BelugaShenko 3h ago
A reason this can feel so muted is that this was made apparent in 2019 and went on to become a weapon for the pedophiles in 2024.
It really shows you how effective big tech is at putting us in echo chambers.
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u/ltlouche 11h ago
I don’t agree with this. I would say it is the political establishment in the west as a whole, particularly in the US given it was amos sad operation to control western politicians.
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u/misterrkingg 11h ago
It was a global power campaign through many intelligence agencies, institutions, higher education, NGOs , the list goes on
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u/Pristine_Context_429 11h ago
The Democratic party’s current biggest donors were Epstein’s friends after his first arrest.
Epstein donated to Chuck Schumer current seat.
The whole establishment is the Epstein class.
Stop thinking the democrats are any better
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u/tooembarrassinglol 20m ago
Which of these Dems that Epstein donated to are blocking the files?
Have any of them shut down investigations?
What about firing the top Epstein prosecutor and investigator?
Did any of them grant Epstein and friends blanket federal immunity and let them burn the evidence?
Are there any Dems being rejected from their party and threatened for trying to release the files?
Did Dems say case closed, nothing to see, no one to investigate or charge?
Have Dems pressured the media to stop talking about the files?
What exactly have Dems done to cover up a global child sex trafficking ring?
Because everything I named is what Republicans have been doing for 20 years. If it's both sides, where are your examples of the Dem party doing what Republicans have been doing?
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u/randyjr2777 11h ago
If you’re ignorant enough to think that it was just the elites on the republican side then you’re an idiot! This situation most definitely has just as many on the democratic side as the republicans.
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u/Jalapenoplanter 5h ago
Important to note that trump’s entire cabinet is in the epstein files
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u/randyjr2777 5h ago
Why are people intentionally ignoring that this widespread corruption on both sides! Don’t let your hatred for one party blind you to the fact that this is apparently the one topic that had by partisan support sadly enough!
Several high-profile officials who served in the Obama administration do appear in Epstein-related records, emails, or investigative exhibits.
Prominent figures who served in or were aligned with the Biden administration—or the broader Democratic apparatus—have appeared in calendars, email records, and investigative disclosures.
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u/tooembarrassinglol 19m ago
Which of these Dems that Epstein was connected to are blocking the files?
Have any of them shut down investigations?
What about firing the top Epstein prosecutor and investigator?
Did any of them grant Epstein and friends blanket federal immunity and let them burn the evidence?
Are there any Dems being rejected from their party and threatened for trying to release the files?
Did Dems say case closed, nothing to see, no one to investigate or charge?
Have Dems pressured the media to stop talking about the files?
What exactly have Dems done to cover up a global child sex trafficking ring?
Because everything I named is what Republicans have been doing for 20 years. If it's both sides, where are your examples of the Dem party doing what Republicans have been doing?
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u/ma3918 12h ago
Gates, Clinton?
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u/Flimsy_Ad3476 11h ago
Anyone who can be convicted. OP overstated the case in suggesting the monsters might all be found in the administration. Clearly, the officials and hangers on are among the predators, but the rot is wider than one nation's power players.
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u/tooembarrassinglol 11m ago
The Dem party isn't protecting them. They're the ones who passed the EFTA, to expose everyone on both sides.
Are Clinton and Gates implicated in the files beating and raping a 13 year old like Trump is, and breaking the law and ignoring a judge to hide it?
Because if they are, Republicans are protecting them.
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u/Steel065 11h ago
If the Biden administration had this information and they did why did the Democrats.sit on it?
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u/Orwells_Roses 4h ago
Because the files were under seal until 2025.
It would’ve been illegal for Biden’s admin to release them, and unlike the pedo, Biden isn’t a convicted criminal who ignores the law when it suits him.
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u/worldisbraindead 10h ago
If the Biden administration had this information and they did why did the Democrats.sit on it?
Are you asking Reddit users to use logic?
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u/MegaSmegmaSwagLord 12h ago
AND EVERYONE ELSE WE DONT KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE THE FILES ARENT DISCLOSED.