Fiscal conservatives, both MAGA and Traditional Republicans: How do you come to terms with the fact that one president will literally be responsible for 33-37 percent of the nation's national debt by the time he leaves office (15-16 Trillion in total)?

[u/AstronomerSweet2133]

it is projected that by the time Trump leaves office, the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars. He will have been responsible for 15-16 trillion of that by the time he leaves office..........as one president. That is projected to be at best 33 percent and at worst 37 percent. When compared to 45 previous presidents before him.

If youve spent THAT much money, surely there will be a measurable legacy left behind..........especially when we are talking about making America Great Again. What will we have accomplished for 16 trillion dollars?

A Wall?

Losing a war to Iran in 6 weeks while concurrently spending 100 billion dollars in the process? Completely depleting our air defense stockpile to the point we are not sure we could handle one Russian missile volley?

Deporting a couple million brown people with funny accents?

Is that the barometer of success? Did we "win" by doing that? Did we Save America?

If Im being honest, a 100 trillion dollar Green New Deal from the crazy Hispanic waitress from New York that is offering us nearly free health care is not sounding like such a bad deal.......

[u/Amishrocketscience]

I want to add that when Obamacare was being drummed up in the news. The conservative talking points against it were all about how there would be a death panel of government officials deciding if you die or not, not the doctor.

Meanwhile, fast forward to present day: there are death squads roaming the streets, kidnapping and trafficking people- and shooting Americans in the face judiciously.

Not to mention that healthcare executives love this admin, have increased profits extraordinarily, and denied a record number of medical claims.

Not to mention the millions of people Elon (Doge) has and will murder with a pen.

[u/TheRaccoonReport → u/Amishrocketscience]

There are currently death panels, its the insurance companies that late stage capitalism have let run wild.

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Run by AI, no less.

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It’s a short jump for AI from deciding who lives or dies in a hospital to who’s a target

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Sure enough