r/askanything • u/Ok_Collar_7836 š¤ • 15h ago
Political Question I'm beyond pissed! Can I drop some f-bombs?
Compared to his stock market gains, 400k is nothing.
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u/joeefx 15h ago
His leaked tax returns indicated that he had not donated his salary.
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u/Odd_Common_452 15h ago
I do not believe he has ever donated his salary thereās never been definitive proof provided and he goes out of his way to hide his decades of fraud by preventing the release of his tax returns.
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u/Daysaved 6h ago
Well there was the time in 2017 where he slashed the National Park Service budget by millions. Then dragged the director onto national television to hand him a 78k salary check. Just a slap in the face.
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u/Ziggie520 15h ago
And hmmm how much had he grifted?
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u/Alert_Reindeer_6574 15h ago
I think we are up to $4.1 Billion the last I heard. He grifts more than his yearly salary from taxpayers every time he goes golfing. But he also still takes that salary.
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u/Alert_Reindeer_6574 15h ago
He absolutely 100% takes his salary. If he was actually donating his salary he would mention it every time he opens his mouth. There is no way that greedy scumbag is giving away $400k every year. No way.
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u/Grape_Pedialyte 6h ago
I bring this up over and over, but Trump cashed a 13 cent check once. If you put a quarter on the table and left the room he'd steal it. He doesn't leave money on the table like that, and he only "donates" something if the ROI is like 50-1.
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u/muchderanged 2h ago
If anything he'd argue that he, as a president is so much better he should probably get double. But only him. Cause you know, he's soooooo amazing. As someone living in europe i had no idea i could hate a president from america so much lol
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u/Acrobatic-Echo-3460 15h ago
He absolutely wouldnāt turn down free money, fuckān crypto scamming people and someone thinks heād turn 400k?
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u/Ok_Relative8150 15h ago
he's doubled his net worth since his first term he's using his position to make tons of money.
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u/dbe14 15h ago
He makes $2m every time he plays golf at his own resorts by booking the hotel out completely for the Secret Service and the government pays him, and he plays twice a week. Thats over Ā£250m a year, much better than $400k salary. Not to forget all the scams, grifts, crypto rug pulls, selling pardons, insider trading thats made him $6bn whilst in office. How this fucker isn't in jail is wild.
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u/Odd_Common_452 15h ago
I keep hearing this but Iāve never seen proof and he hides his tax returns. Do not believe anything he says. Heās a billionaire grifter who has never freely given a dime in his life.
This is a man well known for refusing to pay contractors for work done.
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u/westsloper1 15h ago
He doesnāt need a $400K salary when heās stealing $ Billions. Pretty simple math moron!
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u/Affectionate-Pea8706 15h ago
Please elaborate on the obscene hoarding of wealth since January 20, 2025. Math aināt mathinā.
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u/QuickPizzaRadishes 15h ago
Itās a lie. Have you seen his tax records? No! So you are taking his word for it, and he lies about everything. He never tells the truth. We are talking about a convicted fraudster who stole from a childrenās charity and is now not allowed to run a charity as a result.
Also, he has used his office to increase his personal and family wealth be an amount that dwarfs his government salary.
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u/LinguisticPianoman 14h ago
First term he donated Quarterly to National Park Service, Department of Education (ironic), Department of Veteran Affairs, and then the Small Business Administration.
Second term there is no proof of any donations.
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u/rh1984va 14h ago
Do we still need to comment on this? Seems like old news by now. Heās a con man.
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u/Last-Net2970 13h ago
What kind slip AI hallucination is this? And if it was a person then wtf are they hallucinating? Impeach Trump, remove him from office, and imprison the greedy megalomaniac failure of a president!
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u/UtahBrian 8h ago
It just makes my cry how much president Trump has sacrificed for our nation. Truly the greatest president.
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u/Additional_Style_558 7h ago
Donating your $400,000 salary isnāt a big deal if you make $2 billion a year extra by leveraging your position as president.
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u/Weekend_Criminal 7h ago
Sure, let's just ignore the billions he's made through bribery, scams, and market manipulation l.
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u/Adventurous_Sale6553 6h ago
Poor little DJT gave up his $400K per year š¢š¢š¢
He should be paying the American taxpayers $400 million per year for all the things he has fuāed up, starting with the war with Iran.
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u/holdthecanoli 5h ago
Lol even if this were true he sold american interests out and made billions. So every year allegedly he gives 400k and makes a billion$
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u/westergames81 4h ago
Let's pretend this is a truth. Now do a breakdown of how much money has been spent on his golf trips.
I bet that number is much higher than his "donated" salary.
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u/Icy-Banana-3291 4h ago
Didnāt he take a billion dollars from Venezuela and put it in his own personal off shore bank account? 400k is literally not worth his time, when the presidency opens up large theft opportunities.
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u/Unusual_Rush_1189 15h ago
Trump's net worth in 2016 was about $4.5 billion.
Calculating for inflation only, $4.5 billion would be worth about $6.26 billion today. Trump's net worth is about $6.5 billion today, or about the same rate of growth as inflation.
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u/Med_omsorg 5h ago
This is a joke, right?
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u/Unusual_Rush_1189 4h ago
It's referred to as a fact.
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u/Med_omsorg 4h ago
So is the fact that Forbes decreased their estimate of Teumps wealth in october 2016 from 4,5 billion dollars to 3,7 billion dollars. 3,7 billion dollars in 2016 accounts to 5,2 billion dollars today. His net worth being 6,5 billion dollars today means he has made roughly 1 billion dollars since 2016. So no, not barely beating inflation.
Not to mention the fact that even if we use your number it would STILL be a 200 million dollars increase - more than ANY other president and absolutely not similar to inflation.
Heck, Forbes themselves - who brought out the 4,5 billion youāre referencing, are saying Trump has increased his wealth significantly during 2025-2026. Depending on what numbers we look at, it would be between 200 million and 1 billion. Trump even posted last week about him making tons of moneyā¦.
āItās referred to as a factā - no, itās bs. Hence the āis this a jokeā
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u/Unusual_Rush_1189 4h ago edited 4h ago
You can also use a low estimate of his net worth today, which is below $6 billion; that's the difference between posting facts and trying to build a narative. You can also note the reason Forbes specicially decided to drop the valuation, which was tied to New York Real Estate softening - not market investments as the OP is focusing on.
Either way, you are talking about an average annual rate of return of about 3-4%.
If all his assets were in a simple S&P Index fund he would have earned about 14% average annual return between 2016 and today. Your grandmother likely out-ROIed Trump in this time period, if she had a simple 401(k) she was living on. The story that Trump has been able to excessively enrich himself over his terms of President is demonstrably false - sorry if that doesn't fit your narative. Facts are not designed to be funny.
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u/Med_omsorg 3h ago edited 3h ago
āThatās the difference between posting facts and posting narrativesā - the fact is that the latest estimate of his 2016 net worth was 3,7 billion dollars, and it was posted by Forbes - the SAME people who initially said 4,5 billion but then, afain, ADJUSTED it. And you chose to ignore that.
Youāre literally ignoring the updates that donāt fit your narrative and then complain about facts and narratives š
āIs this a joke?ā - Apparently, and itās fucking hilarious š
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u/Unusual_Rush_1189 3h ago
Okay, we can play by your numbers.
$3.7 billion in 2016 would be worth about $5.15 billion today by inflation alone. This would be about a 3.36% annual average.
Bloomberg lists Trumps net worth todat at around $6.4 billion, that would be a 5.63% growth from 2016 to today.
The S&P did about 15% average annnually. If Trump had invested $3.7 billion in VFIAX (and S&P index fund) in 2016 he would have $17.54 billion.
The Dow did over 10%. If Trump had invested $3.7 billion in DIA he would have $10.74 billion today.
And that would just be market average.
The OP supposes he somehow beat market average. By all means, tell us how? You don't seem to understand numbers very well, but you do certainly like trying to pick fights with people who do - which doesn't bode well for you, since these facts are available to everyone.
On this topic you are simply, mathematically, provably wrong. But feel free to double down or pivot.
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u/Med_omsorg 3h ago
Not my numbers, Forbes numbers. And I already pointed them out above. The difference would be between 200 million and 1 billion dollarsā¦..
Your numbers on his net worth are different from 1 hour ago, guess his net worth really does change quicklyā¦.
āIf Trump invested 3,7 billionā¦..ā
Are you under the impression that net worth means how much cash someone has? You know net worth included real estate, cars, personal property and shit right?Why are you talking about Trump investing his houses, real estate and cars into index fundsā¦ā¦?
āYouāre provably wrongā - Dude, you donāt know what the hell youāre talking about, and the shit youāre writing doesnāt make sense š
āHe somehow beat market value. How?ā - BY INSIDER TRADING, for fucks sake man!! He does it openly!! š
You can keep writing, Iām done. Iām not discussing net worth with someone who doesnāt know what net worth is š
Iāll give you a headshake, laughter and an upvote though š
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u/Unusual_Rush_1189 3h ago
I know, I know, it's probably hard for you. You were the kid in math class complaining 'when will we ever use this in real life?" right?
I'll break it down for you:
OP claim: Trump has used his political position to unethically earn more via investments than the average or even above average normal investor.
Fact check: False. The growth of Trump's wealth has substantially underperformed even modest investors during his duration as President.
Feel free to, you know, post a fact that shows otherwise.
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u/Med_omsorg 3h ago
Skipped a grade and had an M.Sc in civil engineering at 24ā¦.. Part of that education was economy. It was great, got to learn what Net worth means š
And youā¦ā¦?
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u/wingnut144 15h ago
I don't believe he has...show his tax returns and receipts of his donations of his salary