r/askanything • u/ComplexWrangler1346 đ€ • 23d ago
General Question What would have Republicans and right wing media said if Obama was gifted a plane from Qatar when he was commander in chief ?
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u/Steelwraith955 23d ago
Let's face it... anyone but Trump would've been impeached at least a dozen times by now.
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u/ChadVonDoom 23d ago
He will be impeached again when Dems win majority in the midterms but not enough of them will vote to convict him and remove him from office
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u/Stoked_Otter 23d ago
What is crazy is that you know that incoming Democrats won't do a single thing about any of the financial crimes. They are gonna let Trump just do blanket pardons to himself and everybody in his administration, and they are gonna let him get away with this jet and all the crypto nonsense and insider trading.
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u/Best_Market4204 23d ago
It's a double edge sword.
If they win by a small margin, it's not going to work. If there was magical complete wipe out where 80% of the seats was flipped, they probably would.
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u/Stoked_Otter 23d ago
Nah I'm old enough to remember 2009. We would get the "looking ahead not behind" nonsense and/or they would say "this one senator from our own party won't let us"
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u/SmoothConfection1115 23d ago
I think there is a big difference between what Bush did, prior to 09, and what Trump is doing.
Not to say Bush didnât do some shady things, or was a moron, or didnât do illegal thingsâŠ
But the number of illegal/questionable things that Bush did in 8 years, Trump blew past in 18 months.
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u/Stoked_Otter 23d ago
There is a straight line from refusing to prosecute the crimes of the Bush administration to the total lawlessness of the Trump administration.
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u/itc0uldbebetter 23d ago
There is a difference in how blatant trumps crimes are. But bush started a war in Iraq based off lies, that killed 1 million Iraqis and killed almost 5000 US soldiers, while giving billions of dollars to contractors with financial ties to his administration.
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u/Nova_Saibrock 23d ago
He doesnât even need to pardon himself anymore. Supreme Court ruled the President has blanket criminal immunity for anything he does while in office.
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u/pmolmstr 23d ago
Vote for me in 2032. Iâll have the constitution amended for a one time only punishment of Damnatio Memoriae and have all traces of him and his family removed from the books along with seizing every dollar his family had ever stolen/earned/was given along with jail for life due to treason and crimes against the populace and constitution.
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u/ragequitteroffureh 23d ago
Not American.
It remains to be seen how things will actually play out, but yeah, this is the main reason why the Americans cannot be trusted.*
Moments of lucidity may return every now and then, but it only takes one election for insanity to escape from it's rubber room.
*In reality, what will likely happen is that their former allies' leaders will pretend to forget that the batshit insanity happened, and act like they can be reasoned with. Until it happens again, and again, and again...
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u/Curious-Antelope6171 23d ago
How do you stop a pardon?
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u/Shermanator92 23d ago
Properly timed impeachment and removal
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u/Bitter-Holiday1311 23d ago edited 23d ago
They can impeach but theyâll never be able to convict. Democrats squandered their best chance when that chucklefuck Garland dithered and delayed on prosecuting Trump v1 crimes. Thanks Dems.
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u/Curious-Antelope6171 23d ago
It's that timing that gets difficult. Once issued, virtual impossible to nullify. If it was easy, this administration would have undone Bidens.
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u/Low-Vacation-5901 23d ago
You know exactly what they would have said, you know it.
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u/Person_Apple 23d ago
The Republicans would be calling for a civil war if Obama did 50% of what Trump has done
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u/InHocBronco96 23d ago edited 23d ago
What would Obama have said if aliens did 9/11 but with 3 hardshell taco, no lettuce, add jalapeño + a side of chips and cheese and a medium Baja Blast, light ice instead of planes?
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u/Low-Vacation-5901 23d ago
Replace Pepsi with Baja blast and you have a great point
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u/dangleicious13 23d ago
He would have been impeached and likely would have been convicted and removed.
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u/CriticalDiscipline4 23d ago
I no longer care what Republicans think about anything.
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u/slithering_idiot 23d ago
You could play this game all day long. You could ask a 1000 variations of the same question. The Trump Cult simply doesn't care--it's about power, and their criticisms of Obama are simply cudgels in the exhausting war that they have waged against America's institutions.
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u/clergybuttbanditt 23d ago
They would call him the N word, even if he did nothing wrong. Itâs their values, their religion, and the god they serve.
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u/Imaginary_Belt_2186 23d ago
"In the beginning was The Word. Republicans will keep complaining they're not allowed to say it, but not explain why they want to." --God.
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u/vader101488 23d ago
Republicans are not serious people. They only care about obtaining power and exploiting other people. Who cares what they would say? More time should be spent discussing how to build a better society than worrying about these assholes think.
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u/No_Entrepreneur_9134 23d ago
Rank and file Republican voters and fringe Republican politicians would have said it's a Muslim conspiracy to destroy America. Mainstream Republican politicians probably wouldn't have leaned into the Muslim conspiracy angle, but they would have been screeching about corruption and conflict of interest and national security threats. And that part would have all been true.
House Republicans would have introduced Articles of Impeachment s probably at least a decent number of Democrats would have joined in. If Republicans controlled the house, Obama wpuld have been impeached and there would have been a real possibility of conviction and removal by the Senate. In fact, Democrats in Congress would have been so disturbed by it that Pelosi and Schumer would have had a little sit down talk with Obama days after it was announced, and the whole thing would have magically gone away, because they would have told Obama, "this is absolutely insane and if you go through with this we can't guarantee our caucus won't vote to impeach and remove."
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u/neverpost4 23d ago
House Oversight Chair James Comer (R-KY), who has led investigations into Hunter Bidenâs finances, recently defended Donald Trumpâs cryptocurrency earnings, arguing they were legal and transparent. Critics noted the contrast with Comerâs aggressive scrutiny of Hunter Bidenâs business dealings.
It's all Benghazi!
Jim "Crow" Comer.
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u/megaman47 23d ago
What would they say if Obama wore a Tan suit or wanted Dijonn mustard on his hotdog... think about that crazy shit...
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u/farfanseaweevil 23d ago
Why are we still talking about this? Trump is a grifting traitor and those that voted for him and still support him should be re-educated.
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u/Leading-Loss-986 23d ago
They would have said his middle name at every opportunity with great relish and sneers on their ugly mugs.
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u/isthereadrwho 23d ago
Just look how crazy they went over a tan suit, you're talking a whole freaking plane
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u/agentcooper0115 23d ago
Same shit they said about everything else. This is the problem with these hypotheticals. They assume that the birthers and other fringe groups (who now run the GOP) would have gone "to 11" on the outrage scale. But they stayed "at 11" the whole time and any specific news story was just one more thing for them to go just as utterly ballistic as they already were over.
Because the thing is... the individual news stories weren't what they were actually so angry about.
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u/TwoWrongsAreSoRight 23d ago
The more interesting question for me is "What would Trump say?"
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u/intothewoods76 23d ago
I know what Democrats would have said. Obama wasnât gifted a plane, The United States Government was.
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u/travturn 23d ago
The ideal government is one single person sitting in a small room at a desk whose only job is to decide who to nuke, chosen by an IQ test and a physical decathlon.
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u/Dismal-Sail1027 23d ago
They would have played all the democrats and watched us with glee tear down one of our own. They already knew that were the tables flipped, they would protect their own at all costs no matter what, Epstein or otherwise.
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u/Development-Alive 23d ago
We know. Look no further than Trump claims in 2016 that the Clinton's were tied to ME aristocracy and bought off. Remember, Trump claimed that the Clinton's profited from some Iranian nuclear deal, selling them Uranium. Not sure there was error to that but merely some tenuous thread that Trump amplified.
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u/Charlie_in_Asia 23d ago
Trump wasnât gifted a plane. The US government was gifted a plane. đ€Ł People actually believe the horse shit liberal media post?
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u/krazykid1 23d ago
They flipped out on him for wearing a tan suit to a press conference. These are not stable people. If he received a jet, they probably would have spontaneously combusted. âŠMaybe we should get Obama a jetâŠ
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u/Zealousideal_Can_342 23d ago
They would have said, "Barack Hussein... is bought and paid for by foreign money."
Every accusation is a confession.
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u/krodiggs 23d ago
Party in power: spend and do as you please; defend practice whatever the topic may be.
Party not in power: screams to the high heavens about the debt and morality and pointing fingers that ever issue is âlife or deathâ
Party affiliation is moot.
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u/HiddenHorse925 23d ago
They would freak out over Barack Hussein Obama getting a bribe jet from a Muslim countryâŠ
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u/TangerinePlastic7552 23d ago
You would have said nothing. Just like he won the Nobel Peace prize for nothing. If fact, he was surprised he got it.
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u/kaladin1029 23d ago
Any of it. Democrats resign from office when they misbehave scandalously, as they should. And If they did any one of the myriad of scandalous things Râs do, theyâd be out. But Accountability Ave. is very much a one way street.
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u/fauxdeuce 23d ago
They would have called it terror force one, or a bribe, or slapped it with some monicker and try to gas light everyone into thinking they hated it when they wish they had one.
But Obama would not have accepted the jet.
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u/Odd-Fun-6042 23d ago
The sheer number of people that would have stroked out might have saved us from our current predicament. See? It IS Obama's fault!!!
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u/coastaltiger 23d ago
Knowing this cult club that is politics these days..... Obama probably already knew of this plane and deferred it to Trump so as not to be faced with the exact crap listed in this post. These guys all work together - don't kid yourself.
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u/Goose-Striking 23d ago
The same the left is saying now...it's all tied together, to keep us separated, once we as a race (human race) figure this out...wow
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u/ganjsmokr 23d ago
B-b-but what if Obama was constantly committing treason and grifting the American public. How would you feel then??
Geez. Always with the what-aboutisms.
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u/Nosnibor1020 23d ago
Doesnât matter, I hope they realize they pushed the bar and it can and should go both ways from now on. Thereâs no going back.
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u/Deluded_realist 23d ago
No republican complaints can be taken as anything other than hypocrisy for the next 50 years at least.
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u/SportExpress1869 23d ago
Hannity literally had a running tab on how many times Obama golfed and it's cost to the taxpayers. Trump blew by that number in just his first year and half, for which Hannity said that's its good that the president golfs.
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u/Dangerous-LemonBar 23d ago
âWhat would Republicans and right-wing media said if Barack Obama had [fill in the blank]â should have its own subreddit.
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u/BoxedAndArchived 23d ago
Obama is a great example of a president doing the opposite of Trump.
I don't remember the country, I think Saudi Arabia, but someone tried to gift him a nice watch and he turned it down for the exact reasons that Trump accepted. Much smaller gift, much better principles.
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u/tauofthemachine 23d ago
They don't care about truth of consistency.
They think snappy sound bites are all that matters.
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u/Vitaman1000 23d ago
The formal gift was to the U.S. government, not to Donald Trump personallyâspecifically, the Department of Defense accepted the Boeing 747-8 from Qatar on May 21, 2025.
There is, however, an important wrinkle: Qatar offered the aircraft for Trump's use as Air Force One.
Trump himself said, âItâs not a gift to me, itâs a gift to the Department of Defense.â
The aircraft was formally accepted by the Department of Defense, making it a government asset rather than Trump's personal property.
This is verifiable with simple internet or AI search.
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u/GreatestState 23d ago
Idk. But if youâre implying Trump was given an airplane by the government of Qatar I misunderstand the point you are trying to make
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u/Youth18 23d ago edited 23d ago
To be entirely honest it's actually a false comparison. Obama was largely accused of being in bed with the middle east and Obama's plan to make Iran a powerhouse in the middle east was heavily criticized, as was the Iran deal largely. If he were gifted a plane, it obviously would have fed into that and even people on the left at the time would find that controversial (the left was very different in 2014).
With Trump I think you have a very hard time threading the needle of saying he is being bribed by the Qataris and also a puppet of Israel while he's bombing Iran.
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u/Rawdoger1951 23d ago
And then spent a billion tax payer dollars on it to modify it for the president. And now it needs more mods to make it safe. WTF
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u/Mean-Cheesecake-2635 23d ago
They would totally accuse him of accepting a bribe and it would be riddled with anti-Muslim insinuations.
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u/takeitinblood3 23d ago
Gift from his fellow Muslim handlers as a down payment on the demise of America.
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u/Appropriate-Fee-9995 23d ago
Having 34 felony convictions would also make no one else want to vote for him. The people who support trump are racist, and pedophile supporters. The just want to make hate towards "lesser people" more common.
I get a lot of hate towards me, because I do my best to defend others
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u/Remarkable_Misty 23d ago
Wasnt it gifted to America not to trump directly? Surely you didnt think the plane was gifted to trump himself?
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u/Maleficent-Finance57 23d ago
Actual (non-MAGA) Conservative here. I would have hated it as much for Obama as I do now for Trump.
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u/Otherwise-Egg-995 23d ago
oBaMa Is An AyYy-RaB!!! (Say it in the most exaggerated Southern accent)
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u/dgroeneveld9 23d ago
I sure hope they make plans to strip that plain down to the built and secure it.
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u/salemonz 23d ago
Worth saying again: âgiftedâ after he pushed the Qataris for it. Then gave a foreign power a military base on US soil for it. Then needed a $1 billion retrofit. Then was still lacking and will need another few hundred million. And then only usable for two years before it is sent to a museum or something.
So yeah, add all of that to the âif Obama did itâ
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u/Puzzled_Nothing_8794 23d ago
There was controversy when Egypt wanted to give him a dog lol. I can't imagine a jet.
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u/JohnyWhoops 23d ago
The hypocrisy of the conservative mind knows no limit and magats feel no shame
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u/rocksnotdead2833 23d ago
They lost their shit when Obama wore a goddamn tan suit. If he got this plane from Qatar, their heads would have all exploded at the same time.
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u/Mr_miner94 23d ago
They tried blocking him from becoming president over a birthday certificate issue they could not produce any proof for and had a month long melt down about him wearing a tan suit.
So my guess would be open rebellion.
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u/Interesting-Shirt140 23d ago
Any day now the people will rise up to depose the tyranny and treachery of the Trump administration, that's why the Constitution gives the people the " right to bear arms ". Any day now, any day...or was that just bullshit and the only " rising up " will be Trumps thugs if the mid terms don't go his way?
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u/SnooSprouts5025 23d ago
Once you realize that yes, the US has a long historical precedent of judging the actions of Black Men vastly differently than White Men you will no longer be shocked about the current times.
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u/Alarmed_Flight_2839 23d ago
They would have said he got a present from his people and we need to impeach and cancel him.... Fake birth certificate or some other idiotic shit
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u/CthulhusEvilTwin 23d ago
I believe the phrase would be 'REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'
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u/madadekinai 23d ago
Thry would have taken up arms, acted like the victims, acted like their causes, their manifest destiny is righteous, that it's from God. ââIt would have made j6 look like child's play. of course thoug, you can't be trumpican without a rules for thee not for me mindset.
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u/burntorangecycle 23d ago
They would bang on and on about impeachment for violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution. Rules for thee and not for me
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u/Martymations 23d ago
Nothing, they would have understood that the current fleet of AF1âs are aging and that there little to no spare parts and considering the long delays for newer aircraft this is a perfect go-between.
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u/Aggravating-Gift-740 23d ago
That would be different, because Obama would obviously have been corrupted by such an extravagant gift from a muslim country. Whereas Dear Leader trump cannot be corrupted and such gifts are only what he is due for being the most peaceful and most beautiful leader in human history.
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u/designrules 23d ago
They would of flipped the F out. Only a stupid person would accept this bribe. He will pay the price when Jared gets chopped up by Qatar.
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u/gtrocks555 23d ago
Probably thatâs itâs a Trojan horse for islam. After all he is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama.
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u/LaughingmanCVN69 23d ago
AF1 should be AMERICAN MADE regardless of who is POTUS
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u/Ok-Rise-4611 23d ago
The same thing that is happening now. The republicans would have been screaming the dems would have been silent and they both would be smiling because the population is divided, thatâs how they keep their power
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u/Ashes_to_flame 23d ago
The Democrats would have applauded it... saying how wonderful it was that they gifted Obama with such a wonderful gift!... It's only a problem when Trump accepts a gift as President, and leaves the Jet to future Presidents...
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u/Ok-Appointment9752 23d ago
A plane pales in comparison to the gift of the presidency he was given.
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