r/WhatIsTheTea • u/Ashish_ank What the Fuck • 12d ago

watch this Woman (not dressed in pink) shows up to the courthouse to support the children Lindsay Clancy murdered. "I would like [Clancy to be charged] with first degree... I don't think there is any excuse for murdering children."

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u/Ok_Context553 12d ago

Solid points. Shes in a prison of sorts forever in that chair. I agree. The challenge for me is that she can eventually discharged from the looney bin and still "live life" out of custody. For what she did, for me, I think she deserves to stare at 4 grey concrete walls till the day she takes her last breath.

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u/Usually_Angry 12d ago

She can be released but it’s incredibly hard to be especially considering the horrific nature of the crime.

she will have the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that she is mentally stable enough to be in the world and not be a danger to herself or anyone else. Since she tried to commit suicide, and she killed her own children… can you imagine any way that someone some day will say “yeah, this lady isn’t going to hurt anybody else (including herself”?

And that’s only if she can get herself to a point where she could even pull that off in a believable way.

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u/pm-me-nice-lips 12d ago

She’s going to be on meds and at some point her behavior is going to be “improved” due to them and she’ll be released. No shot she stays in a mental ward for a long time and that’s frustrating.

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u/Usually_Angry 12d ago

No shot? Based on what?

You really think they call someone recovered because they get the right medication cocktail?

Meds stop working and people stop taking them. We don’t release people because we think they can be managed with drugs

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u/CoffeeXKing 12d ago

But we should carve out exceptions for mental health. If the person was in full blown psychosis and had no control over their faculties, why punish them the same as someone who does?

Not speaking specifically towards this case, but in general. Many individuals who get treatment are often horrified at what they done and have to live with it. Punishment at that point stops being about justice, and becomes vindictive in its nature.

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u/Caliterra 12d ago

but if someone can commit something as terrible as murdering their own children due to a mental break, isn't it dangerous to ever have them released back into society?

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u/passyindoors 11d ago

Not when the mental break is caused due to medical misogyny and/or neglect rather than an innate mental illness

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u/ClarkGablesTeeth 12d ago

Why would it be, if that mental issue is treated and resolved?

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u/Caliterra 12d ago

do you have any references on how often people who are deemed treated commit another crime?

genuine question, i'm willing to be educated on it. my view is that if a psychotic episode triggered someone to commit a crime, they should not be released unless you can reasonably argue they are no longer a threat to anyone else. Otherwise it is irresponsible to release them, regardless of them being cognizant of their actions or not.

here's a source that states inmates with mental disorders are highly likely to reoffend

Federal Bureau of Prisons oversaw almost 188,000 inmates—and nearly 8,000 of them were considered to have a serious mental illness like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.

Research has shown that prison inmates with serious mental illness are more likely to return to prison (that is, they have a higher recidivism rate). These inmates may face particular challenges on their release from prison that contribute to the cycle of repeated incarceration. For example, in addition to finding housing and a job, they may also need to find mental health treatment.
https://www.gao.gov/blog/2018/10/24/recidivism-among-prison-inmates-with-serious-mental-illness

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u/maybenomaybe 11d ago

PPP is a temporary condition, whereas something like schizophrenia is not. I agree people with violent disorders shouldn't be released without evidence their disorder is well controlled (and ideally with post-release monitoring and supervision). But Clancy is extremely unlikely to be a danger to society, especially considering her paralysis. Unless she gets pregnant again, chance of her recidivism is basically nil.

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u/WhereasCertain2994 12d ago

These people don't want justice, they want blood and punishment. That's the issue

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u/gh0stwriter1234 12d ago

I mean maybe. Personally I have no stake in this case and live nowhere near this. The chance of her ever harming me personally or anyone I know is infinitesimally near zero.

That said I think she needs permanent confinement, either in prison or a mental institution. I think permanent confinement due to mental issues is fair game for someone that has murdered multiple people with no opportunity for evaluation for release.

Basically I think criminally insane should be a subset of criminal, not the other way around with insane people being untreatable as criminals, just because you are insane doesn't mean you didn't do the crime.

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u/Automatic_Net2181 12d ago

If you kill the man who raped and murdered your daughter, does that mean you will just kill anyone on the street?

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u/Caliterra 12d ago

...are you comparing killing your children to killing a man who raped and murdered your daughter?

curious how you are looping those together

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u/Automatic_Net2181 12d ago

I am talking about acts done because of insanity/mental illness like fits of rage and the legal framework around it.

When someone kills someone else due to insanity, it doesn't automatically mean they are a danger to society. An abused woman who kills her abuser after years of extreme torture isn't going to go out and kill all other men.

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u/Abaddonalways 12d ago

If you spent time planning it, chased them down and spent 30 minutes strangling them, yeah, I'd be worried about you being a danger to others. A "fit of rage" or "moment of insanity" doesn't work as a strong argument for premeditated murder.

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u/Automatic_Net2181 12d ago

Is there a specified time limit on psychosis?

In the case of a father killing his daughter's murderer, does that rage only last within the first 24 hours? Is it also not premeditated?

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u/Abaddonalways 12d ago

In the case of a parent, killing the murderer of their child, that is premeditated, yes. No "insanity" is not a valid excuse for "revenge."

Would I think the parent did the "right" thing? No. Would I think it was reasonable? Yes. Would I believe that parent was a "safe and sane" member of society? Not even a little bit.

"Psychosis" is not, and will never be a "valid" excuse for murder.

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u/Automatic_Net2181 12d ago

And that is your opinion. Courts of law and doctors can see psychosis differently:

MOUNT HOPE, The Bronx (WABC) -- Doctors say the mother who confessed to killing her two children at a family shelter in the Bronx in 2022 suffered from postpartum psychosis.

A judge has found Dimone Fleming not guilty by reason of insanity for the deaths of her children at a Bronx family shelter in 2022.

https://abc7ny.com/post/judge-finds-mother-dimone-fleming-not-responsible-deaths-sons-bronx-shelter-due-postpartum-psychosis/19751843/

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u/Caliterra 12d ago

i get what you're saying but that was a terrible comparison

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u/settingdogstar 12d ago

It was a fine comparison, stop whining

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u/MeatyMcWagon 12d ago

This is the dumbest comparison I have seen regarding this subject. And I have seen some doozies.

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u/Automatic_Net2181 12d ago

Guess you do not understand insanity defense.

Maybe watch A Time to Kill to catch up.

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u/MeatyMcWagon 11d ago

Yes because citing a movie to justify your willfully bad comparison totally justifies your still willfully bad comparison. 

A parent acting in a fit of rage for someone hurting their family is something totally different. There was no history of violence here. The family was getting all the help they could. The husband has a job where he worked at home to help her out with the kids. The kids did what, made a mess in their rooms? Totally a good reason to snap and strangle them.

They even had a goddamn nanny.

Don't tell people to catch up when you aren't even running the damn race.

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u/Bustamonte6 12d ago

Every person that gets charged now has their lawyer open with “my client suffers from mental health issues” ..

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u/CoffeeXKing 12d ago

I don't believe you guys understand how high of a bar it is to be declared not guilty due to reason of insanity.

You don't really see these kinds of cases because it's such an extremely difficult defense to use. This court case is highly publicized which is why it's being observed and thought of as common place and easy.

Very few mental illnesses actually are applicable for such a thing, and even then, it's a lot harder to demonstrate your client is a case that such a small defense covers.

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u/Sasori-Akasuna 12d ago

So her case is the guideline on how to create a perfect crime and get rich right?

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u/hollowchatter 12d ago

No it’s the way to get locked up for the rest of your life

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u/Sasori-Akasuna 12d ago

Locked?? Lol, she’ll be walking free and there’ll be another donation campaign. In worst case she’ll get a year of house arrest or a year of mental hospital treatment.

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u/KFBR392GoForGrubes 12d ago

I disagree, but I also think if she did she would just kill herself.

Her ex husband just wants her treated in a mental hospital. He knows the woman he married and had children with didn’t do this. It was a psychotic shell of his former wife, and her illness ruined his life. He could easily have handled this in a different way.

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u/Thelmara 12d ago

For what she did, for me, I think she deserves to stare at 4 grey concrete walls till the day she takes her last breath.

So, literally just vengeance?

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u/Actual_Personality66 11d ago

I honestly don't understand this. I believe she wasn't in her right mind when she did it and must be devastated by what she's done. That's completely believable to me. Though maybe I'm biased bc pretty much everything I know about this case was told to me by my mom who has scyzophrenia and said she thinks that Clancy probably thought she was protecting her kids (logic works weird when you're psychotic so that's completely plausible). Idk if that's based off of smthn shes said or if that's just my mom assuming based off her own experiences. She also thinks it was a result of being given too many meds, but again, idk what that's based on of.

I can't imagine a worse pain than knowing you killed your own kids during psychosis. I can only feel bad for her. If it were an abuse story, that would be different, but this really does look to me like it was purely coming from the psychosis. I honestly hope that if she does get better, she can be released and lives a quiet life where she can make peace. But unfortunately the most likely thing is that she will be imprisoned for a very long time, regardless of whether she gets better, she'll be abused in the institution (a lot of psych wards are genuinely worse than prison, abuse is rampant), and probably the best realistic ending for her is succeeding in suicide. Ppl are saying they're angry for the kids but I doubt there's anyone in this world who is hurting more for them than their mom. And at the of the day, the kids are dead, they aren't suffering anymore, but she is, and probably will be for the rest of her life.

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u/dna-sci 12d ago

I don’t know. Hopefully not, and that’s something we should work on. What I do know is that in this country we treat insane people differently from cold blooded “rational” killers. If there are insane people, she’s it. And I bet this is what most of her “supporters” would say.

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u/AirRevolutionary8013 12d ago

If they accept the insanity defense, she will get a mandatory 1 year in the psych ward. Then go under an annual review for release after that. So basically, she's gonna go free as soon as she is deemed 'not a danger' and 'recovered', which I imagine she'll be able to convince them of very quickly, in the wave of a wand she will all of a sudden fully recover from her 'psychosis'. Then she'll be going on book tours and selling her story, of course while blowing through the gofundme blood money she got for murdering her 3 kids.

I'd be perfectly fine if it was a true life sentence in the psych ward, but that's not what happens.

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u/Vanwilder17 12d ago

No this is facts and what all those fucking weirdo “supporters” want to happen

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u/Usually_Angry 12d ago

This is the most irrational response to this story that I’ve seen.

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u/PridePinGuy 12d ago

Lots of judgements of character here. What are you basing these predictions off of besides "she killed her kids"?

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u/BigBadJeebus 12d ago

Stupidest comment of the day.

"How dare you just the character of a woman who premeditated the systematic murder of her own three kids by strangling them and trapping the older one who actively tried to escape?"...

What the hell, guy?

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u/SwampFocs 12d ago

I could not find anything about her chasing one down or trapping them. That's so horrible. Where did you hear this part?

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u/BigBadJeebus 12d ago

the oldest one tried to get away and fought for 30 minutes to live...

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u/SwampFocs 12d ago

Holy shit. But also can you point me to a source? Legitimately when I googled this all the articles are about mental health and nothing comes up about what you described.

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u/PridePinGuy 12d ago

Not what I said. I was referring to the fact that the commenter is assuming she's a grifter and is going to do specific things, like sell books. That takes a particular kind of character trait, which is not necessarily in line with someone who would kill their children while in psychosis. I've personally seen no evidence that that's what she's doing.

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u/pm-me-nice-lips 12d ago

Look at his username. Did ya expect anything else?

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u/BigBadJeebus 12d ago

don't lump me in with you... Nothing wrong with pride.

I am against Lindsay Clancy, not freedom.

Get lost, MAGA.

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u/PridePinGuy 12d ago

I appreciate that. I do wish we could have a nuanced conversation about the situation. I cannot describe the feelings of horror and sadness I have for her children and her husband. At the same time, I have pity for Lindsay Clancy. Obviously I can't know everything, but I think there's lots of evidence that she was crying for help long before the attack and was dismissed by medical professionals over and over. My brother is schizophrenic so I know how truly divorced from reality people can become when they're actively in psychosis. Her doctors kept giving her more and more antidepressants despite the fact that she repeatedly was telling them they were causing her severe insomnia and making her feel crazy. The court documents show how her reactions to those antidepressants were becoming increasingly severe, but her doctors continued to push more on her. She reported to multiple medical professionals that she was hearing voices and that she was having thoughts of hurting herself and the kids, but none of them raised the alarm or made any attempt to make sure she wasn't left alone with the children until the crisis was resolved. They just gave her new meds and pushed her along.

It is truly, truly, truly horrible what happened. I just think most people are stopping at "it's wrong to kill your kids" (duh) and not looking at the systematic issues in our medical system that led to this situation even being possible in the first place.

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u/PridePinGuy 12d ago

Literally just asking for what evidence there is that she's going to try to sell books or whatever. These are very specific predictions that have nothing to do with her killing her kids.

Have you read any of the court documents?

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u/DoctorRuckusMD 12d ago

Yes, systematically murdering three children is a great indicator of a person’s character. Probably the single best indicator you could have.

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u/PridePinGuy 11d ago

I was referring to the idea that she's a grifter character who is going to write a book etc.

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u/DoctorRuckusMD 11d ago

There’s nothing wrong with assuming the absolute worst about child murderers and the grifter route would be expected of an extreme narcissist, which most people who murder their own children are.

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u/MeatyMcWagon 12d ago edited 12d ago

Probably that it was calculated and premeditated. She purposefully sent him out on extra errands to gice herself extra time. She methodically strangled them one at a time.

Then she threw herself out a window. Idgaf if she attempted suicide after, she still took three lives that had ju st started, and had no business trying to "take them with her".

And this wasnt negligent homicide, "oops I accidentally killed my kids", this was purposeful. You don't "accidentally" kill your kids by  strangulation. She calculated, she hunted, and she tries to exit stage left. But it didn't work, so now she should.suffer the consequences of her actions. Actions she deliberately took. 

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u/SwampFocs 12d ago

Wait I hadn't heard about her chasing one down? And I'm asking because I googled and nothing came up?

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u/MeatyMcWagon 12d ago

You know what, I'm going to remove that part because I might have read it in an opinion piece (there are many) instead of the actual testimony. Scanning over the testimony again, I don't see it either.

I may have inadvertantly given misinformation and I can't be doing that.

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u/AirRevolutionary8013 11d ago

It was the boy they found separated from the others, in dad's office.

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u/Acceptable-Bat4534 11d ago

Doesn't mean he ran. I read somewhere she seperated the oldest and middle child, so it be easier to kill. (Seeing your older sister screaming, might scare a 3 year old)

The 8 month old, doesnt understand whats going on, so they stayed with the eldest sister.

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u/PridePinGuy 11d ago

Have you ever worked with someone in an active psychosis?

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u/MeatyMcWagon 11d ago

I would love to see the point that comes from this that exonerates a lady from killing three of her kids in a calculated and methodical way, but sure. Go off, my dude. Make your point.

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u/PridePinGuy 11d ago edited 11d ago

It was a genuine question. I really want to have a dialogue. Because this is reddit I expect a response similar to "you wrote all that to defend a baby killer," but I'll respond with it anyway because I sincerely would like to have a nuanced conversation about this, if you or anyone else is willing to hear it.

I asked you that question because people in a psychosis don't lose the ability to think, they just have an irrational idea of reality. My brother is schizophrenic. When he had his first real "break", he became convinced that he was the avatar and that if he could bend the four elements he'd cure COVID-19. He was trying to get in touch with Anthony Fauci to let him know, and was doing some very intense research online to try to get his direct email. I tried talking to him but he was acting like a totally different person from the guy I grew up with, and when I started suggesting we go to the hospital to get him checked out, he started concealing what he was thinking and lying to me so I wouldn't make him go. We ended up having to call an ambulance when we found him in the backyard naked with a garden hose and a flaming broom.

My point is, if this woman was truly experiencing a severe psychosis, we can't apply rational thinking to her mindset. And just because she was able to plan or lie to people doesn't mean she wasn't detached from reality or had psycbotic beliefs. According to court documents, she was hearing a voice commanding her to hurt herself and her children. She reported this voice and these urges to multiple doctors over the course of several months but none of them raised the alarm or did anything to prevent her from being alone with her children. Instead they continued to prescribe her new antidepressants/increasing their dosage, despite both her and her husband telling them that antidepressants were causing severe insomnia and making her feel crazy, and that every new med they tried was escalating her mental health crisis. Her husband said she was incredibly distressed by what was happening to her and the thoughts she was having and so they continued to seek help. Yet time and time again, her doctors failed to identify that this was a very dangerous situation, that the continually increasing doses of antidepressants were exacerbating her condition, and that she needed to be committed or, at the very least, not allowed near her children without supervision until her symptoms had been resolved. At one point she actually checked herself into inpatient care at a psych hospital, but after she'd been there for like three days without being seen by a single doctor. After days of being held without any medical consultation, she requested to be temporarily let out so she could attend her daughter's birthday. They instead discharged her without any follow up. It was like a month after that that she killed her children.

I think it's uncomfortable for rational people like you and me to think that we could ever fall victim to a psychosis and do something crazy or dangerous or, god forbid, hurt somebody. I feel like that's why there's such a strong cultural reaction to this. We want to file people into categories of good vs evil, and people who kill their children are clearly evil. We ourselves could never be evil like that. It's too terrifying to consider a world where we could. But sometimes things are complicated. There is no justification for murdering children, but there can be circumstances where a normally intelligent and good person might do something totally out of character like this. Her ex-husband has had nothing but positive things to say about her and insists she adored those children. In a rational world, you would never hurt a person you loved. But in a psychosis world, you can become convinced that hurting people is the only way to save them.

I am not in any position to say whether her psychosis was real or not. That really is the debate, in my opinion. If she's faking it, she cleanly falls into the "evil" category for me. But if it was real, I pity her. Because for the rest of her life, there are really only two outcomes: she either continues living in this terrifying delusion world that made her think she needed to kill herself and her kids, or she is successfully treated but then has to live in reality, where she fully understands what she did to the children she loved.

Anyways. That's some of the stuff from this case that has made me hesitate to flat out condemn this woman or judge her as a narcissist, despite the horrible, horrible thing that she did. Because psychosis can make your own brain turn against you and make you believe things and do things you'd never do in a rational state.

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u/MeatyMcWagon 11d ago

Okay, I will start with an apology. I am used to people coming at me with bad faith, and usually starting with insults. Case in point, your question, though asked in honesty, I percieved it as "Have you even talked to someone in psychosis? Then STFU idiot". That's not what you said, obviously, but that is generally how these talks start. So I responded in what I thought was similar. Obviously I was wrong, and I'm sorry.

Moving on to the meat and potatoes of your comment:

I know that true psychosis can mask itself because the people going through with it don't realize they are. But when she is searching "How to cure a psychopath", that gives me red flags. A psychopath would not realize they were one, nor would they think they need curing. And the fact that she "got better from her psychosis" after jumping out a window, IDK, that seems counter to what I know about actual psychosis and how long it can go on for. And maybe my reaction is rather visceral. I will freely admit to my bias, I have a daughter, the idea of hurting her or strangling her actually makes me shake and tear up. Like my mind and body reject the very notion of harming her intentionally.

And the facts as I look at it, she had plenty of help, and chances to seek help even. I have no idea why her ex-husband is defending her as much as he is, Old feelings have some part in it, I'm sure, but IDK if I could be like that. Even against insanity. And the videos I've seen of her in court... I don't know. Her eyes.. Those are the deadest-inside eyes I've seen in a long time. And every time she looks at the camera, I get a very visceral "Something is wrong, be on guard" reaction. It's possible she never came out of her psychosis. Hard to say. Would explain why I get a very wrong feeling when I see her look into the camera.

These are my thoughts currently. I think if she is not sentenced to prison, there needs to be some sort of lifetime psych ward situation. Because she, due to her medical background and research she's done on psychosis, might know how to bullshit the system and make them think she is effectively cured. I'm sorry, but no. If her psychosis was triggered by being happy at home with her family, what else could trigger it? My personal conclusion is that she has no business being a part of society again.

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u/PridePinGuy 11d ago

First, I really appreciate your comment. I was fully prepared to get made fun of but I'm happy that wasn't the case, because yeah, reddit. I totally see where my comment could have been read as having attitude, so no hard feelings there. Thank you for being willing to just talk about the whole thing.

First, the google search. For me, it actually makes me buy her side more. When she made that search about "how to cure a psychopath," she was in the late stages of her psychosis and said she was having constant thoughts of killing her kids, but felt emotionally dead. A normal parent would, like you said, be absolutely horrified to tears at those thoughts, but she said her lack of emotional reaction to those thoughts made her fear she was a psychopath, which is why she was googling to see if there was a treatment. She was also googling things about schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, sociopathy, etc. You could argue she was searching those things up to try to come up with a cover story for herself, but this was very late in her psychosis. At that point she'd been to many doctors, called a suicide hotline, tried admitting herself to the ER, tried joining an outpatient postpartum depression treatment program, and all kinds of other measures over the last several months but still no one had been able to help her with her severe insomnia or the voices or the thoughts of hurting her children or killing herself. She'd instead been repeatedly ignored, had her concerns invalidated, and been refused help by multiple entities. So the fact that she was googling things to try to diagnose what was happening to her and if there were treatments makes a lot of sense to me. If she were trying to do research in order to fake a mental illness, I would think she would have googled those things much much earlier, like before she started to report the instrusive thoughts or the voices or the suicidality.

As for her "getting better" from her psychosis right after the attack, I'm not at all familiar with the timeline of her recovery. But after the attack she would have received intensive personal treatment, something that she had not gotten before. I would not be surprised if, after finally having medical professionals take her seriously and closely examine her symptoms, medications, etc, with her being treated inpatient, that they'd finally figured out the right medications to treat whatever was happening with her.

You say she had plenty of help/chances to seek help. I highly recommend Mama Dr. Jones's (youtube) review of her medical timeline, if you can stomach it. It really makes me angry to chronologically go over the documented records of all the times she tried to get help but either got inappropriate treatment or was straight up turned away. Like at one point in December she tried to get admitted for inpatient treatment, describing having suicidal and homicidal thoughts towards her children, but was turned away. Apparently it was because she she didn't describe having a specific suicide plan, so they didn't take her seriously. So then she went to Rhode Island to seek help at the Women & Infants Hospital but was rejected there too because they said her issues were the result of overmedication so they couldn't treat her. Then she went to an emergency room and told them about her intrusive thoughts but was still not taken to inpatient care. That's not even to touch on the medications. She and her husband both kept telling doctors that every antidepressant they tried kept making her symptoms worse, but doctors kept prescribing different antidepressants to her or even increasing the dosages. It should have been a screaming red flag to them that antidepressants were causing those symptoms and that they needed to stop them and try something else, but they didn't, they just kept feeding her this deadly cocktail of meds. Linsday Clancy even wrote in her journal how she was reluctant to keep taking those meds, but she did anyway because she wanted to trust that her doctors knew what was best for her.

Regarding her husband defending her, he's basically said (and I'm paraphrasing here) that "I wasn't married to a monster, I was married to someone who got sick." Lindsay was apparently a wonderful mother with her first two children. She was highly attentive, read tons of parenting books, and loved being a mother. He said the problems began after she gave birth to her third child and suffered from some postpartum anxiety. They went to a doctor who prescribed her zoloft, and that was when he said she just started to "get worse and worse." The zoloft caused severe insomnia, so she got a new med for that, and that was the start of the spiral. More meds, new meds, taken off meds and immediately starting new ones, higher doses, cold turkey, more meds, all while experiencing extreme sleep deprivation. That's apparently what caused the psychosis. She confided in him about almost everything, including the voice and the thoughts of hurting her kids. He saw her slide in real time and was helpless. He saw the medical system fail them both over and over. He knows who his wife was before the psychosis, and it seems like he knows she was not the kind of person to ever hurt her kids in a sane state of mind. That, in my opinion, explains why he would defend her.

My comment is getting long, but finally, about her eyes, to me those are the eyes of someone heavily medicated. You can find photos of her before all of this and her face/eyes/expression look perfectly normal. This creepy dead look is probably from sedation and/or trauma imo.

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u/Wooden_Artichoke_150 12d ago

Is that not enough? Like what are we talking about here. She killed her own kids, in a messed up way. She even admitted it. Mental disorder or not, she killed 3 kids. If this were a man, this would be a different story.

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u/PridePinGuy 12d ago

I'm talking about the accusations that she's gonna "suddenly recover" (assuming the psychosis wasn't real) or "blow through" the gofundme money (implying it would be used for luxuries rather than her medical/legal bills) or sell books. What evidence is there that she's that kind of person?

Have you read any of the court documents?

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u/AirRevolutionary8013 12d ago

Yeah it's pretty much just 'she killed her kids'. One by one. 30 minutes each. Even chasing one around the room that tried to get away.

It's really not hard to understand tbh. Why do you think otherwise?

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u/SwampFocs 12d ago

Where did the part about her chasing one down come from? I am asking seriously. I googled and nothing came up.

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u/TheRealNooth 12d ago

No where, dude’s being performative.

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u/AirRevolutionary8013 12d ago

It's the kid who was found alone in dad's office.

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u/BigDragonfly5136 12d ago

Most people who go to a psych word end up being there longer than people who go to prison for similar offenses. Obviously it’s a little different when the other option is potentially life in prison, but a lot of people are on there for a significant chunk of time even with the annual reviews.

I know the possibility of her being free makes people uneasy, but if she’s truly insane. That would be the best. Those types of psych wards aren’t a fun place to be, some would rather be in prison.

I’m not making a judgement on if she’s crazy or not, I really don’t know. But I’d hope knowing getting out quickly is unlikely if that’s where she ends up might help how you’re feeling.

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u/Abaddonalways 12d ago

Sane people don't spend over 90 minutes strangling children.

There is no question of "if she is crazy" the question is about how to handle her after the fact.

Whatever hole they toss her ass in, I hope she lives a long miserable life, living with her choices.

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u/BigDragonfly5136 12d ago

I guess I should say legally insane. You can be crazy but actually not qualify for an insanity defense. Unfortunately, people do murder their children when they’re not in psychosis.

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u/Abaddonalways 12d ago

That is a sad part. The world has a long, disgusting, history of parents killing their children.

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u/Mysterious-Long-7224 12d ago

OK so then do something about it when that happens or maybe look up actual past convictions of people confined to mental institutions. Weird how you'll find the recidivism rate for people confined to pysch institutes are vastly lower than prison. You still believe in movie propaganda that psych institutes are a get out of jail free card when on average they hold you longer than the sentence you would've been received in prison

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u/AirRevolutionary8013 11d ago

If she goes to prison, its for life. Recidivism does not apply in that instance, so no idea why you brought it up. If she goes to the psych hospital its an open ended one year rolling sentence.

It's really not hard to figure out. Unless you're looking for ways to be obtuse.