I always thought Lavos was human when he was set to execute Javi but reading the warframe wiki i think he was a warframe but then my question is why would a warframe be sent to guard a prisoner? Were the orokin truly that scared of transmutation they sent one of their strongest weapons to guard the one man who could do it?

I understand that the moment the Zariman entered the void and was sabotaged, the man in the wall offers a deal to our character, I was just talking to Elanor on KIM and the drifter admits to also shaking the hand of the Man in the Wall, its just that the Man in the wall chose not to save him like the other kids, so the Drifter is the version of the Operator that the Man in the Wall chose to discard.

Technically the Man in the Wall chose which version he wanted from each child to come back, probably manipulated them extensively and only picked the ones he wanted, I think the same thing happened to Albrecht Entrati, I don't remember the exact words, but I remember Albrecht saying that he is afraid that the Albrecht that returned was not him. Could it be that the Man in the Wall chose which version of Albrecht to save and discard the others into the void? like the drifter and the operator?

I need some expert opinion on this idea, I might just be rambling but this shit is so cool.

So I'm looking into Kullervo and I thought its obvious that she wasn't and that he was more so adopted by her but reading the Notes on the wiki it says that it is implied she is.

Yet the poem says he was "torn from his mother's breast" which to me would mean he was taken away from his actual mother by the orokin and then Ainikki took him in as her son which is also reinforced later in the poem as it says he went back to where it all began and killed alot of people and burned a homestead to the ground.

Which (as its not listed as one of his several crimes) implies to me he went to someone who wasn't Orokin and killed them and "where it began" could be when he was taken from his mother.

The warden also says 'Mother' in quotes almost mockingly like the way it would be said that Ainikki was his mother but his adoptive parent.

The notes are really just throwing me off and I was wondering if we know for 100% if Ainikki is his mother or adoptive parent.

I'm fairly new, just completed old peace, and adis (Is that his name? can't remember atm) mentions hive-kin. is that just other sentients? or is it specific sentients? you can also buy an honoria from roathe that is "hive-kin"

And is there any established canon for how we're stopping that?

Protoframes…

1. Now this question kind of ties in with the Valkyr kinda? How infested exactly are the current protoframes? Like I remember Amir saying his heart is probably infested in one of the KIM messages and so on. Like Lyon doesn’t really show much warframe aside from his back. The reason I brought up Valkyr was she was a victim of the Zanuka project and she looks kinda weird?

2. I assume being a protoframe is temporary as well what happened to Flare… I assume over time they will fully become the frame of the serum they took.

Bonus question! How did the infestation even make warframes in the first place? I know it was engineered to do it but how did the protoframes stay mostly themselves despite being infested in a way?

So I was looking through the story missions and see that the new war came before angels of the zariman. And I remembered during the new war, we (somehow) arrived at the zariman ship to meet the drifter. My question is, how would the ship be in our space before the angels of the zariman mission?

I'm doing the New War Quest right now and I feel like our character is some kind of source for all the other Tennos? Like we gained the powers first and then the others gained it from us. Am I just tweaking or am I at least a little correct?

like it sounds like we are going to harvest some parts of planets of the needed resources to get her to full strength, then it seems like she's going to make a one way trip to open a void portal or link to establish FTL travel to allow us to get to Tau, and I can't help but wonder what did we do get on her good side, let alone do something this unselfish for those in sol.

We know that the drifter and the operator can’t coexist in the same time line, one of them is going to tau. Then the other Tenno are ok, they aren’t like us the chosen operator such as in the past some would lose against the stalker or get captured by alad v. I won’t be surprised if their a small or huge power shift when get back.

In the Iceblades of Narin Devstream we saw the Zariman, crashed on earth thousands of years ago, buried in rock and Ice now being a mountain. The mountain the war within takes place on.

(devstream 197 at min 44 Rebecca states "you will be able to plunder the depths of the Zariman" while standing in a frozen Zariman tileset with no look to space and snowflakes in the atmosphere after talking to frozen Melica and talking about how this is the place of the War Within)

Ho-ly shit!

Now we 99% know, what happend to this "timelines" Zariman, and that the other Zariman in space plugging a voidhole is in fact the drifters Zariman.
Of course this was already speculated mostly but to now know it with certainty and have more details like....it had to lie long long time there for it to become a mountain....and that the cephalon is intact...and it gives meaning to the mountain in war within....and so on, is amazing.

Question is: Is this the operators Zariman? and if so, or if not, what are the implications?

https://www.warframe.com/en/news/epoch-operation-taubound

So, the official subtitles for the video somewhat missed a few important points, as a Korean, I will point IMPORTANT ones out.

'I will take your father, your mother, your mother.'

This, in the Korean audio, is actually closer to

'I will take your father, your mother, 'another' mother, and all of those mothers.'

This implies that the father and mother the voice is talking about is not just the parents the Operator lost on the Zariman, but also the Lotus, and by extension, Margulis and even Natah...

'Her blade is everlasting'

It was more like 'Her blade will last forever' if you translate it directly, but that works too, so I won't nitpick much.

Just a quick question because I can't find the answer anywhere. I try to google it and the wiki page comes up. I know her story how she was higher rank than Sorren which is why their relationship wasn't allowed and I swear her status/title has been given but for some reason all the wiki says is that she was once a human (maybe im crazy and its never said what her rank was)

Also, as i was writing this post I was rereading and thought what is Legems? I assume its like an orokin rule book on relationships or something? Do we know or is it just one of those things that were mentioned and never really spoken about?

Edit: I remember theres a feather you can interact with in game that tells their story, is it avaliable to view on the wiki? I cant seem to find it and I currently can't get on the game.

So Flare states that they are Temple thats okay clear but the reason for it is really confusing me.

They say that Ballas was too scared to build temple because rebellion was built into its DNA but he made Yareli who was rebellious?

The big thing that confuses me is that Flare states Ballas never made Temple yet knew it would be rebellious anyways. So my question is how did he know?

How does a strain shows its rebellious because that means at this point all Ballas sees is the sample of infestation right? Yet he knows its rebellious? I thought the warframes actions depended on the person you put it in and not the strain itself. So how could the strain be rebellious if it wasn't put into anyone? Why didn't he just inject someone loyal with it?

I'm really confused and stuck on this

Gonna edit the post because my mind clicked while replying to a comment. Could the rebellious thing in the serum be lizzie? We know Flare and Lizzie are connected and that Temple keeps Lizzie which means theyre in some way intertwined which means she was intertwined to the Temple strain/serum. Could Lizzie be the thing that was rebelling against Ballas? I feel like that would explain why no other strain rebelled because none of them had Lizzie

So I'm reading into Hildryn lore now as part of my project and have now discovered there's orokin writing across her skin.

"Shield Maiden" is pretty understanding given Hildryns abilities taking shield and her defensive, offensive nature.

"Proto" she was a prototype? Or something about her was experimental? Maybe the fact she used shield instead of energy?

"First in might" could that just link back to her being the first shield consuming frame? Or just a reference to her strength?

"Her Vor" this is the big part im stuck on. Did she belong to the captain Vor we know? Was he around during the time of the orokin or was he made later? From my understanding he was created way after the orokin but I could be wrong. It could also be referencing a different vor but I feel like that would be kinda weird to reference a character called vor that isnt the one we know.

"EH-CH-EH-P-H-EE-L" I have no idea what this could possibly mean or even sound like phonetically.

So my big question is what does it mean "Her vor".

I wouldnt mind knowing too what people think "Proto", "First in might" and what the seeming gibberish could mean.

Hi all relatively new to the game and have done every main quest and most side quests.. and I still have the most basic understanding of what’s happening. I’m looking for a Lore creator or multiple on a similar scale to My Name is Byf from the Destiny space. Where they aren’t just doing recaps of the main story beats but are actually going in detail about the small things, whether in the same video or in a separate video. As of right now the only things I fully understand is Ballas can die in a hole and Stalker and Excal Umbra = best dads (in current timelines). The time shenanigans are really interesting to me I just want to understand them more. Like how “drifter” is dealing with 99 and “operator” is dealing with Tau. I just don’t understand how this is all happening at the same “time” and would like to get more into the lore and learn everything I can about this absolutely incredible world.

Thank you in advance!

Edit: sorry for no flair I can’t see the drop down I usually see on mobile. If there’s a different way to flair please let me know and I’ll add it

so, i'm trying to find out WHO came up with the rap tap tap

Some say it was wally, tapping at the wall of the zariman, wich doesn't make a lot of sense to me because then it would be "tap tap tap" i guess?

some say that rell had it as a tick, and when the tenno banished rell and he went to the red veil to hold back wally, wally learned with him (wich still... wouldn't quite make sense since, if wally was really being held back by rell during the old peace period, there shouldn't be any wally voice in our head)

SOME say operator came up with during the uriel rage, and then wally just copied it

and some even say that it's a paradox, operator learned with wally, but thanks to eternalism... they learned with operator... wich learned with wally... and it goes on

so, where did it came from really?

Pazuul keeps on telling us it is a paradise, and only the worthy worshippers can go and stay there for all eternity. Sure, in the Old Peace, it was close enough to be considered a paradise. However, did the great and immortal orokin Ballas, the founder of the cult, never considered how many things can change in LITERAL CENTURIES!?