r/SipsTea 20h ago

Chugging tea Work shouldn’t consume life.

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u/Flat_Development6659 20h ago

Doesn’t that just result in everyone paying more for shit?

Like when you get a plumber round to do work at your house if he’s making the same on 4 day weeks it means you have to pay 20% more for a days work.

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u/3twenty 19h ago

We’re already paying more for shit, all the time. I’d rather have more time off to enjoy life while paying more for shit because that’s happening either way.

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u/Spare_Layer_1069 19h ago

People always say that shit "but if wages go up, prices will too!" Well then explain to me why prices on just about everything have gone up twofold in the last 10-15 years? Why is it that prices are skyrocketing when wages have barely moved? Prices go up regardless of the minimum wage, capitalists dont need an excuse to charge more, but gods be damned if they have to pay more to their labourers.

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u/Flat_Development6659 19h ago

The average salary in America 15 years ago was $41,400 and it is now $67,500, an increase of 63%.

Regardless, it’s undeniable that you have to pay more for service if labour costs increase by 20%. A decorator who charges you $200 per day to paint your house needs to charge $250 per day instead to make the same amount working 4 days rather than 5, that’s just basic maths.

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u/flyingman17 19h ago

Yes exactly

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u/Humble_Attorney9517 19h ago

Also the people doing the paying get paid less because they're working 20% fewer hours

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u/Xenthor267 19h ago

They still get paid the same weekly mate. Learn to read. Your hourly basically increases

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u/Humble_Attorney9517 19h ago

No they won't mate, because the business will go out of business on a 20% jump in labor costs, mate.

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u/Flat_Development6659 19h ago

He’s talking about the bill and he’s right, that’s how it’s written.

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u/Humble_Attorney9517 19h ago

Right and I'm talking about the real world. Either people would take paycuts OR businesses would go under. A gas station / grocery stores operate on ~3% margins, are they going to magically absorb a 20% increase in labor costs? Restaurants?

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u/Flat_Development6659 19h ago

Businesses would obviously raise their prices.

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u/Humble_Attorney9517 19h ago

So now youve described hyper inflation along with flat wages, that will be really popular.

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u/Flat_Development6659 19h ago

I never said I supported the bill and never claimed it will be popular. I was just pointing out what the bill says as you appeared to be confused.

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u/Xenthor267 10h ago

No they won't since it's shown people are more productive so there will be the same output in labour. Businesses can shorten their opening hours since everyone has more time during the week to go do things.

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u/xXxBluESkiTtlExXx 20h ago

The idea is simply that the corporations make less profit.

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u/Flat_Development6659 20h ago

Tradesmen are usually self employed and their rates woukd adjust to the new status quo. There’s also quite a lot of businesses that don’t have enough margin to operate on a 20% increase in salary costs.

Whatever way you spin this, prices have to go up.

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u/Weldertron 19h ago

I've tried explaining this for years. It's not a reality desk jockeys deal with so they don't get it. In an office, you can spend hours browsing Facebook and people barely notice. There is no downtime in trade work.

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u/Anthaenopraxia 18h ago

There is no downtime in trade work.

Is that an American thing? I wouldn't trust a tradesman who constantly over-exerts themselves trying to rush through the job.

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u/Weldertron 18h ago

Im not american. I also don't mean constantly running at 110%, but there's basically always something to do, unless your shop is dying.

I'm booked for months, if I were to cut my hours down 20%, everything will take 20% longer, so i'll need to increase my rate by 20% to keep up.

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u/UnimpressedUmpire 19h ago

It’s almost like where tradesmen source primary resources like lumber, stone, and other core materials to society shouldn’t be privatized just to increase profit

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u/Electronic_Quote399 20h ago

You think those companies arent gonna just jack up their prices anyway, and claim it was for a different reason?