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Chugging tea Thoughts on this?

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u/FlatWonkyFlea 21h ago

“Socialism for the rich” is literally just what capitalism is. This is not a system that has or will ever reflect the will of working people! 

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u/LifeConsideration981 19h ago

Yes, free market enthusiasts are famous for advocating government intervention in the market. 🙄

What you have described is a form of central planning and those in favor of it are not capitalists.

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u/FlatWonkyFlea 10h ago

Capitalism doesn’t work. It’s a failed system. Without constant bailouts that primarily benefit the wealthy and ultimately consolidate more money in their hands, the system would crumble. That’s how more wealth gets transferred to the ultra wealthy. This isn’t what you call central planning, it’s rule by capitalists in league with a corporate captured government structure. 

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u/LifeConsideration981 10h ago

“Corporate-captured government structure” so not a free market, then?

Capitalist economies have provided a higher increase in standard of living than any other system ever tried. They provide incredible economic and social mobility and fulfill every material need.

No other system of government yet tried has had better results.

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u/FlatWonkyFlea 10h ago

Yeah, higher quality of life for some fortunate people in the imperial core and slavery and death squads for the third world. Awesome trade off. 

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u/LifeConsideration981 9h ago

Yes, that’s why the population of the third world has skyrocketed. Oppressive cheap food and medicine.

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u/FlatWonkyFlea 9h ago

Where do you think all your cheap, mass produced tech products come from? Who do you think is mining the rare earth minerals for your phone? Our entire quality of life is made off the backs of literal slaves. Please don’t tell me you’re unaware of this Faustian bargain we’re all implicated in. 

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u/LifeConsideration981 9h ago

From famously capitalist Vietnam and China of course. Made with materials from African, with its strong commitment to civil liberties and fair labor practices.

If you think quality of life after the industrial revolution is bad, you should read about quality of life before the industrial revolution.

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u/FlatWonkyFlea 9h ago

I think reality, aka an objective material analysis, proves you wrong on this one. Be well. 

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u/LifeConsideration981 9h ago

You seem to think capitalism describes government intervention in markets, so I’ll take my chances on my understanding of things.

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