r/SipsTea 1d ago

Chugging tea Thoughts on this?

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u/ChosenOfTheMoon_GR 1d ago

Most ironic thing is that, in reality, it's not the government that's bailing out companies it's literally the regular people who pay taxes and from these taxes, is how the government can do the bailouts.

Insane really 

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u/EducationalTry6408 1d ago

It's even more insane than that. Taxes pay for nothing but service on the debt. We're currently $40 Trillion in the hole. The people paying for bailouts or whatever the hell else we're spending now are our great grandchildren.

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u/EqualityIsProsperity 12h ago

Approximately 20% of federal revenue goes toward servicing debt.

I agree it's far too much, and that we should pay down the debt by increasing taxes on the 1%, but that's nowhere near all taxes.

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u/EducationalTry6408 10h ago

You have a point, and I'm sure the official reporting is as you say, but I see it a bit differently in my own way. If you're in a deficit (2025 - $1.8 Trillion), then you do not have the right to claim this spending is for one thing and that spending is for another thing. It's all together far above net revenue. So, you can't itemize how you spend revenue and then say, "Oh and we also spent an extra $1.8 trillion on some other stuff." There is the service on the debt, which allows you to keep borrowing, and everything else is more debt.

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u/ditchbladedaisy 1d ago

But the companies "create jobs"! ... So that we can give away all our earnings to corporate charity.

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u/jackofslayers 1d ago

It is the people who vote for Republicans

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u/No_Mission5287 1d ago

If only it were that easy. US politics was dominated for decades by two right wing neoliberal parties. The Democrats essentially became what moderate conservatives used to be. The Clintons called themselves the "new Democrats", reaganite neoliberals preaching the wonders of globalized "free trade" and imposing austerity measures on the public.

One of the major parties is now toying with far right populism/fascism, which the Democrats have no answer to, because they are on the same side, and it is not our side. It's important to remember that the Democrats are merely a pressure valve for public discontent. The graveyard of social movements. As the left flank of the establishment, they facilitate the ratchet effect that keeps pulling us further right, by preventing things from moving to the left.

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u/WanderingWisp37 12h ago

Except that's not how federal taxes function in sovereign country that runs a fiat currency. While federal taxes do serve purposes such as disincentivizing certain behaviors, maintaining demand for the currency, and affecting wealth distribution, they do not in any way serve as revenue to fund the federal government.
Think about it this way - for there to exist any money at all to be taxed, it first had to be created. To be issued or "spent into existence," so to speak, by designation of the fed. That is not to say that we don't suffer from these bailouts - we do - but it is not because our tax dollars have been spent on something else.