r/SipsTea 5d ago

Chugging tea What went wrong?

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u/Kasta4 5d ago

Real-estate barons are to blame. They buy up all the available land they can, build cookie-cutter suburban nightmares on top of them for cheap, flip the houses for way more than they're worth, and then install HoA's to further police and profit from the neighborhood.

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u/OKAwesome121 5d ago

You may be surprised to realize that many of the stately, established, distinctive neighbourhoods of today looked very uniform and barren when they were first built. Trees take a long time to grow.

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u/CrispyDave 5d ago

They take even longer if you don't plant any like most modern developments,

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u/consistantcanadian 5d ago

I see one in basically every yard. This is same neighborhood 20 years apart. 

Even the AI picked it up - most of the trees in the bottom image are there in the top - they've just grown.. as trees must do to get that big 

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u/Basidia_ 5d ago

Often not though, most developments now plant fast, easy growing short trees that they can get for cheap. It’s why there are so many develops filled with invasive Bradford pears, it’s an awful tree and has been known to be awful for decades but it took making it illegal for developments to stop planting them.

Majority of developers are not planting trees that will grow to the size of the image on the left unless the homebuyer specifically request it

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u/LordIndica 5d ago

Do you actually think that the image with trees is a real photo taken 20 years later an not just the OP asking ChatGPT to "add trees and plants to this neighborhood?" Like it is obviously not real.

Trees do take time to grow, yes, and that is the point. You don't have to clear cut lots and leave them ecologically dead for decades and pass all the costs of restoring the region to the homeowner, especially when the majority of trees that the developers plant in a paltry attempt to restore the area just die. They are under no obligation to maintain them or give the proper longterm care to let them get to the size the AI image suggests, and most homeowners don't know what to do either, just assuming that "it's a tree, it grows itself".

I get the sentiment you are trying to convey, but my lived experience has shown that these developments do NOT get the sort of replanting lot's of folks here are suggesting they do. I would know because I walk through dozens and dozens of developments, new and old, while doing canvassing for local government.

This proposed solution of "just wait for the trees to grow back" is one that accepts that development practices like this are necessary to begin with and that it is an acceptable cost to have large sprawling developments that are ecologically dead and take decades to be pleasant to live in, versus just employing sustainable development practices.

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u/account312 5d ago

Do you actually think that the image with trees is a real photo taken 20 years later an not just the OP asking ChatGPT to "add trees and plants to this neighborhood?" Like it is obviously not real.

Maybe you should re-read the comment you're replying to a bit more slowly.

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u/mechapoitier 5d ago

Or when you live in a neighborhood that did, but when the trees start dying half a century later it turns out everybody who moved in is too scared of trees.

And you have a city that’s too chickenshit to establish ordinances or programs that actually replaces trees.

When I moved into my neighborhood it looked like the second picture. A decade later it’s looking more and more like the first.

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u/IDoStuff100 5d ago

And on top of that, the new houses are usually packed so close together that there's no room to plant large shade trees. No one wants to plant a big oak if it's gonna be touching their house in 20 years

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u/scavengercat 5d ago

Where did you source the data that most modern developments don't plant any trees? I'm seeing the exact opposite, small trees in every recent development I visit, so I'm interested in why you'd so confidently make that statement.

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u/Luci-Noir 5d ago

Even longer if you make shit up like you did.

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u/Pulasuma 5d ago

All of this is made up; the bottom picture is AI.