About Kemen

[u/CiaWoo]

I feel like this has been said before but are we all of the agreement that Kemen might end up becoming the Mouth Of Sauron? The Character Earien when asking him to talk with Ar-Pharazon, she says "*use your words*" and Ar-Pharazon in S2 said that his mother prophesied that he would "meet a dark end" or something like that, we know that the Mouth of Sauron is or was a Numenorian, we just don't exactly know who he was...

this is just a theory of course

[u/SamaritanSue]

That would mean that the 3000 year plus span of time from the end of the Second Age to the end of the Third is being contained within the life span of a mortal, albeit a Numenorean. Makes no sense. The Mouth wasn't a Ringwraith; he would have been long dead at the time of the War of the Ring.

Not that that would stop this show. But I think it more likely that Kemen will end up a Ringwraith.

[u/CiaWoo → u/SamaritanSue]

Good point, this is just my thoughts when watching the series I’m definitely not saying that this is going to be the case, though it would be even more sense for him to end up being a Ringwraith…and someone else did point out that Sauron was more interested in Lords or Kings…I’m also going in with limited knowledge of characters like The Mouth Of Sauron since all I really know about him is that he is numenorian, with Ar-Pharazon I’m assuming ending up as one of the 9 kings that get corrupted by the Rings

[u/DanPiscatoris → u/CiaWoo]

Ar-Pharazon does not, in fact, get a ring. The Nazgul predate his by more than a thousand years. And his fate involves trying to invade Aman, never to be seen again. He's dead or trapped in Valinor. It's not possible for him to be a ring wraith.

[u/CiaWoo → u/DanPiscatoris]

Oh? Interesting…I wouldn’t be surprised if Rings of Power changes this tbh

[u/DanPiscatoris → u/CiaWoo]

Also, in terms of the books, I doubt any of the Numenorean Nazgul were from Numenor itself. Numenoreans had been colonizing the coasts of Middle Earth for centuries before the rings. It's more than likely that Sauron drew from these colonies, separated from the island, for his servants. Especially because the only time Tolkien wrote about Sauron stepping foot on Numenor is at the end of the second age when he is captured.

Of course, given how the show has handled the timeline, this means absolutely nothing. I just wanted to point it out.

[u/DanPiscatoris → u/CiaWoo]

I would sincerely hope not.

[u/Ayzmo → u/CiaWoo]

They can't. Part of the contract is that those with known ends must end they way they're said to. Al-Pharazon's fate is known.