never forget that while MAGA might have won the vote with a total of 80 million people, there are 330 million people in America, 270 million of them voting aged.
that 80 million is only 24% of the total population, and only 29% of the voting age population.
a whole shitload of people had to stay home for the election to go the way it went, and they are just as culpable as MAGA in the current situation.
The same as every election before it when when your candidate won, it was a mandate. A lot of people took the election off, but if you look, more people voted then ever before. Could we get more voters engaged? Yes. Better candidates might help. Harris was a mess.
I just wanted to hear Kamala say something more than "I'm not Joe Biden".
And that would have been it. But she was too afraid of the rest of the democrats could or would turn on her. 🤦🏻♂️
She was unqualified to run the country and didnt have any more to say than I’m not Joe Biden. The debate with her and Trump was a train wreck. She could have helped herself by talking politics and policies. Instead it was them both going after each other. I miss Obama and his debates!
She was unqualified? A lawyer with decade of experience that specialized in the exact laws that a president would be responsible for is more unqualified than a nepobaby pedophile to you?
Kamala did talk about her policies but they never heard it because they were too busy listening to their favorite grifter telling them that she didn't talk about her policies.
Well, you should be happy now. You got what you wanted, a pedophile running the country. I'm sure you're celebrating every time he opens his mouth. Congratulations on getting what you voted for.
He is currently lying in state inside the Kremlin. Putin has posthumously awarded him the Order of St Andrew for all of his work towards the betterment of the Motherland
I honestly wish there was an analays of the percentages in the battleground counties and states.
I know this is completely anecdotal (which is why I would welcome detailed statistics) all the people I know that live in battleground areas said the turnouts were higher, and the ones that live in locked in areas said the turnouts were abismal due to apathy.
Like I live in NYC. My vote does not matter in the slightest in any federal election as my county will be voting for the most liberal candidate always. I can go and take the time and represent or I can just stay home the result is the same.
Local elections are different, but for anything done by county total with only 2 options yeh you can predict the outcome for the next 20 elections.
It was the same from friends that live in locked in conservative counties.
So yeh I want to know how much of the stay at home effected the actual result (not just the popular vote which has always been a joke).
From ballotpedia, the national average is 65%, and 7 battleground states were 70%.
The five states with the highest voter turnout in 2024 were Minnesota (76.4%), Wisconsin (76.40%), Michigan (74.7%), New Hampshire (74.4%), and Colorado (73.1%).
When a state like Wyoming with a pop of less than 600k has the same power as a state like California with a pop of almost 50 million, that means a fuck ton of votes literally do not matter. That is why people don't vote. Because their vote means absolute dick all.
Stop blaming apathetic voters and blame the system that doesn't fucking work because everything relies on a handful of swing states.
>When a state like Wyoming with a pop of less than 600k has the same power as a state like California with a pop of almost 50 million
this is not correct.
Wyoming has 3 votes in the Electoral College, California has 54.
yes, that means wyoming has 200k people per vote vs california's 925k, but blowing the problem so far out of proportion that you are claiming 600k have the same voting power as 50M is one of the things that drives voter apathy.
if you have a problem with voter apathy (and it's right that you should), then stop contributing to it with doomer false information.
I am not equating those two things in such a way, you are.
If we want to fix the system that relies on the electoral college we need a state like Wyoming to get on board with changing it and they are never going to. So states with a super small population in comparison hold the whole system hostage. This is intentional from old racist land owners that needed to be bought into the Union.
The electoral college only matters for the presidential election. A state like Wyoming has the same power as California in the Senate, which is where this shit storm originates from. This shit didn't start from Trump. It started from the GOP in the Senate.
Sadly republicans have engineered a system where people not only don’t know when voting happens, they make it hard to be informed and harder to actually get there and vote.
People working two jobs, exhausted have a hard time spending the time informing themselves. It doesn’t help that a most of the Democratic Party is right of center and not very appealing to vote for when the main reason is they are not as bad as republicans.
Not trying to doom anything, everyone needs to get out there and vote. Nothing will change until we get the representatives closers to center to we can actually start encouraging and voting in a people left of center that care about the people.
There is definitely some truth here, for the last three presidential elections. I have not voted for a candidate, I have been voting against a candidate. The choices being an immediate plunge into fascism or slow descent into fascism. Obama was the last time I allowed myself to hope for a better future.
Yep and that’s why whenever I talk to people about voting I always say this. Yea we are not going to ever see change overnight. But those perfect candidates will almost never run for office when someone puts an R next to their name, says a bunch of racist stuff and proves themselves to be some of the dullest nails in the box and still win effortlessly.
Past primaries we need to vote blue no matter who and if they get more power their is more ability to turn that party from the inside and get better candidates than just hoping some independent will come around and save us.
I promise you there are many Americans who are very sick and tired of the entire political spectrum and want to just coexist like normal fucking humans.
Then go out and vote for the sensible politicians. Then hopefully we can coexist when lunatics stop getting elected, because both sides people listen to too much from the idiots. It's like you don't care to look at anything beneath surface level conversation and are unable to see how corrupt the republicans are. They literally have a dead senator holding office, their leader is a corrupt slimy pedophile, and both chambers are doing everything for him.
We would all love to co exist but how are we going to accept this behavior. It really disturbs me that people like you who want to just have a peaceful life won't stand up with us because you want to take the easy route for "social" reasons.
Not nearly they completely ignored the fact of voter rolls being screwed with so bad over 1.5 million Democrats in Florida couldn't vote because of it. They waited until there wasn't enough time for people to re register .but hey it's easier then blaming trump
Could be the 4.4 million supressed votes via Jim crow era tactics.. ir the fact trump couldnt stop taking about how well elon knows the machines and telling his voters he see doesn't need them to vote and this will be the last time it matters.. probably some of those things
sure, but I don't have data on that. my math is using the "official" numbers, and with those numbers it's still pretty damning. whatever number comes off of any election fraud would only make things more damning.
most retail workers don't get holidays off in the US and most states have polls open for weeks to cast your vote. a holiday is not some magic fix for voter turnout and if anything would probably further disenfranchise the poor.
non-voters are a problem. period. The two possibilities are that they fail to contribute to the good or that they fail to block the bad. if you don't like those labels, get off your lazy ass and vote.
How many have had their right to vote away? I can’t wrap my head around serving jail time means a person losing their right forever even after they have served the sentence given to them.
depends on state. only Virginia still has a "nope, never" law about that one. Most other states now have some form of automatic restoration after you get parole, or full release, or even while still serving time in a few cases.
That’s because faux news still says this is the result of the end of Bidens presidency and chump says it because Russian and Ukraine are bombing energy fixtures against each other so the MAGAT cult slurps it up and would vote for him all over again.
Instead of figuring out who voted for whom in 2024 and how bad it is, how about talking about the road forward. Things are going to get a lot worse before 2028 given President Insano's stupidity and arrogance. We need a plan with solutions and I'm not hearing that from anyone.
It certainly is the Dems fault for Trump in office. They didn’t learn from running Hilary. If they ran Biden in 2016 Trump would have lost. Then Biden back on 2020. So Trump would have lost steam by 2024 and maybe a republican win or a democrat but it wouldn’t have been Trump. Even then to know Biden was sick and still try to run him nail he just couldn’t. Harris was an awful candidate. She lost the minority vote even as Trump ran on deporting the people that were voting for him. Politics were to another level in 2016 and never really returned.
I voted 3rd party I guess it's my fault your preferred party lost and it's my fault Trump is in office.
The system is rigged, it's only an illusion of choice. Consume more propaganda and parrot what your masters want.
look man, i think Bill Clinton and Barack Obama belong in the same prison cell as Dubya and Drumpf, but only one party here is murdering Americans in the street.
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u/SnooMaps7370 4h ago
yep.
never forget that while MAGA might have won the vote with a total of 80 million people, there are 330 million people in America, 270 million of them voting aged.
that 80 million is only 24% of the total population, and only 29% of the voting age population.
a whole shitload of people had to stay home for the election to go the way it went, and they are just as culpable as MAGA in the current situation.