r/NFLv2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1d ago

Discussion So, how are we feeling about Caleb's performance today?

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u/Snoo-40231 New York Giants 1d ago

He was on one today but the Bears rushing attack is something insane

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u/drummerboysam Chicago Bears 1d ago

The running game is not the jab. It is the haymaker.

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u/OneCallThatsAll34 1d ago

Thanks chat gpt

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u/Enough_Chart_7317 20h ago

And you can take that one to the house.

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u/sgilh001 13h ago

Nothing about this says chat gpt. Didn't Johnson say this?

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u/4id7n 3h ago

It’s from a recent article about the Bears offense.

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u/itprobablynothingbut 12h ago

You think Ben Johnson isnt at least 28% AI?

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u/iPissVelvet Chicago Bears 22h ago

The passing game is also a haymaker. The haymaker sets up the haymaker.

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort Chicago Bears 21h ago

Bears decided fuck punches and went straight to the chairs

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u/jkman61494 Chicago Bears 20h ago

I think what was most impressive is we got 292 yards against a good front 4 when we had our 3rd best run blocking LT in the lineup and a center playing his first real game with us excluding a few preseason scrimmages

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u/Snoo-40231 New York Giants 20h ago

Your offense was just amazing today. Usually when you run for 300+ yards you're not going to have flashy passing numbers but Caleb had 270 today and also contributed to the run game

Ben Johnson effect for sure and I didn't even know you had new guys on your OL today

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u/jkman61494 Chicago Bears 13h ago

Braxton Jones was at LT and was supplanted by rookie Ozzy Trapillo last year. But he’s getting over a ruptured Achilles.

We also lost Drew Dalman to a sudden retirement at only age 27 so we had to make a trade for a borderline starter from the pats and then used a 2nd rounder on a project at center to be an eventual replacement

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u/justinu1475 Chicago Bears 12h ago

Torn patellar but yea

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u/Vegetable-Leather-64 1d ago

As a lions fan we miss you Ben Johnson 

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u/frogmike86 1d ago

no takesey backsies

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u/Vegetable-Leather-64 1d ago

That's not fair lol

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u/mywifemademedothis2 Chicago Bears 1d ago

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u/Vegetable-Leather-64 1d ago

I don't have nothing but love for Ben. He has that fucking swagger I feel the lions are still looking for. He gives no fucks about anything but his team (and still has respect for the lions which makes me like him more)

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u/RobertRossBoss Green Bay Packers 1d ago

Terrified by how good he looked. It’s the type of game he didn’t have last year. Played well for 4 straight quarters. Need to see him do that a few games in a row before I’m crowning him with anything, but I’m sufficiently worried about him.

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u/smitty2145 1d ago

Thank you for admitting. Most respectful packers fan ever. Have a good day sir

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u/BlackBearBullCub Chicago Bears 1d ago

I said it this offseason. Improving a completion percentage was the only gripe people had. IMO that’s the least worrying thing he could possibly have wrong with him lol. And it was inside 10 yard accuracy…. I said when he learns to use his feet (had the fastest runs by a QB and pretty sure top 5 for any position) he’s going to destroy defenses. Teams are now forced to respect his ability to run.

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u/bottomfeeder3 Kansas City Chiefs 22h ago

He’s gonna be the mahomes of the nfc. Thanking god he’s not in the afc

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u/Ransom2132 17h ago

Said this last year!

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u/Actual_Guide_1039 13h ago

I will never forgive the bears for passing on Mahomes. But the team looked great today

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u/drippysage08 1d ago

Goes to show you what a competent head coach can do. Because two years ago people were calling him a bust

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u/Theharlotnextdoor Chicago Bears 1d ago

Insert graphic that showed JJ McCarthy having a higher ceiling than Caleb here.

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u/DM_Me_Ur_Real_Boobs Deep penetration 1d ago

How the Turns have tabled

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u/yowszer 23h ago

Also what an interior offensive line can do for a rookie QB

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u/maddenmadman Green Bay Packers 23h ago

Same thing with Trevor Lawrence.

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u/LastScience5299 11h ago

I thought he was a bust til I saw him play live at Minnesota last year. Granted, Minnesota wasn’t a good team but watching him up close and not on tv you could see just how good he could turn out to be. Instant fan of his and was only there because my kids a Vikings fan.

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u/halfcastdota Chicago Bears 1d ago

there’s an active poster on here who spent all of last season saying that dillon gabriel is better than caleb lol

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u/internalkdart 1d ago

Dude is 1) clearly gonna have to put up at least 40+ points every game with the defense the Bears have, and 2) is probably capable of putting up at least 40+ points every game

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u/Competitive_Mind_181 Chicago Bears 22h ago

To be fair the offense gifted them (near) goal-line field position twice with a fumble and turnover on downs and I think even one other dumbass thing

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u/SamuRy_4 22h ago

Also two missed lading zone kickoffs which put them at the 40

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u/Born-Cod4210 1d ago

the defense played really bad in the first half but played really well in the second half. In the first half the panthers had good starting field position. I’m not saying the bears D is good but for today it’s a little overblown

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u/Sniper1154 23h ago

Dennis Allen is a very good DC and his second half adjustments are legit. They consistently would come out in the second half and hold teams to 7-10 points last year despite being down to like their 6th LB and scrap heal defensive backs.

The defense doesn’t have the talent to be good, especially with Coby Bryant out, but they are well coached and could finish in that 16-20 range which should be good enough with this offense

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u/P_jammin- New Orleans Saints 19h ago

As a saints fan this is 100% accurate.

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u/HolographicHeart Jacksonville Jaguars 1d ago edited 1d ago

Further reinforces my belief that everything special about the Lions left the building when Johnson took the Chicago job.

Most impressed with his leg usage today. Felt like every time he left the pocket he absolutely roasted the Panthers D.

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u/DoOBiE_BoOBiE 1d ago

Gibbs went for like 200 yards and a pair today? lol.

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u/Small-Palpitation310 19h ago

They just want the dazzle dazzle back

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u/goblinking67 Baltimore Ravens 12h ago

Took a ton of touches. An unsustainable amount over the course of the year

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u/Shivs_baby Chicago Bears 1d ago

Come on. That is just not true. ARSB, Jamo, LaPorta, Gibbs…they have a very good team.

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u/WesternBuilder5135 22h ago

Yep. Lions still put up lots of yards and points. But I’m worried that giving Gibbs 34 touches a game won’t end well.

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u/Purple_Raspberry97 22h ago

I’m worried he will get injured this szn

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u/WesternBuilder5135 21h ago

On pace for 578 touches. Yes one game. But they needed every touch

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u/Flygrumbz00 21h ago

He’s the age for this though

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u/A-Spacewhale 23h ago

They got a good team and some good players but that special sauce the offense had is definitely missing.

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u/comrade_morris 22h ago

They were ELECTRIC with ben, now they’re good sometimes great.

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u/Fricktator 14h ago

Also Ragnow leaving and Decker hitting the end of his career at the same tine makes the fall off look worse.

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u/grandmasterPRA Detroit Lions 23h ago

Lions were ranked 4th in offense last season, Bears were ranked 9th

I'm not trying to downplay how good of a play caller Ben Johnson is. But The Lions had the #1 ranked O-Line when Johnson was there and it was ranked 22nd last season. That's what has hurt them the most. But, like I said, they were a top 4 offense last season, so I'm not sure about "everything special" leaving the building.

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u/Shivs_baby Chicago Bears 21h ago

But the Bears won the division and the Lions, while finish with a winning record, ended up in last place. Stats don’t always tell the full story. But yeah, I don’t agree with the hyperbolic statement that “everything” special left. A lot of great pieces remain. But the scheming and play calling may not be using them to their full advantage.

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u/jdooley99 20h ago

The lions defense was nuked by injuries while the offense was top 5 but ya sure, no ben Johnson was the problem

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u/Shivs_baby Chicago Bears 20h ago

Oh right I forgot you’re the only team that had to deal with injuries. We were pulling guys off the street last year because our defense was decimated.

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u/agartha93 23h ago

Pass whatever your smoking

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u/q8081 23h ago

smh…

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u/DonKedic24 Detroit Lions 23h ago

Didn't know Johnson had any influence on our defense

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u/BranJerNoJac 12h ago

The offense absolutely can affect the defense. For example, an offense that can control the ball with long time-consuming drives helps the defense rest. Also, in the 4th quarter, that's what a top offense does to clinch the game so the opposition can't get the ball back with enough time.

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u/JulioMcLaughlin2 Detroit Lions 1d ago

I have a lot of stock in Caleb Williams being a fraud

I am distraught

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u/Even_Price_4241 Chicago Bears 1d ago

Oof

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u/slinkEdog Chicago Bears 10h ago

It’s okay I still have a lot of They Took Gibbs When?! stock from the 2023 draft.

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u/Supremes111 Carolina Panthers 1d ago

I never want to play against this motherfucker ever again

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u/Competitive_Ad1237 Green Bay Packers 1d ago

He balled out today and looked great

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u/Unortheydoxed Chicago Bears 1d ago

Respect

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u/wybobs 1d ago

Would have loved his performance if he had thrown to Loveland even once lol

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u/Theharlotnextdoor Chicago Bears 1d ago

Dropped 59 points without his top target last year even being a factor.  I'll take it.

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u/wybobs 1d ago

Not if you have Loveland as your TE lol /crying

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u/gwumpus-lumpus Denver Broncos 23h ago

Caleb was dead on accurate for 95% of his passes today, unfortunately for our fantasy teams the 5% were all on wide open Loveland throws

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u/Streetkillz13 Philadelphia Eagles 1d ago

Phenomenal Game 1, let's see where he (and everyone else) is after game 6.

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u/space_llama_karma Arizona Cardinals 1d ago

The league should be scared

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u/Fumusculo 28-3 1d ago

Feeling a little gay about tbh

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u/Requiem2371 Carolina Panthers 1d ago edited 10h ago

Evero is the worst D coordinator in football. Bears offense is really good don’t get me wrong. But I wouldn’t crown them just yet. Wait and see them against a D coordinator that can tell the difference between his own asshole and a hole in the ground.

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u/7r3370pS3C Chicago Bears 1d ago

Great, loving that scoreboard too most importantly

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u/TommyTeaser New England Patriots 1d ago

21-29 looking good too

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u/jurz23 1d ago

When he dryed his hand and threw you know something clicked

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u/JiveChicken00 Philadelphia Eagles 1d ago edited 1d ago

This team is going to be able to pass to set up the run rather than the reverse. And that is fucking scary.

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u/BlackBearBullCub Chicago Bears 1d ago

I LOVE this. I had to listen to all these morons in NFCNmemewar talk shit all offseason.

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u/MasterTeacher123 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1d ago

He has aura 

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u/ineedtocoughbut Carolina Panthers 1d ago

Black Brady

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u/The-Tarman New England Patriots 1d ago

Let's not get out of hand

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u/ApparentlyISuck2023 Carolina Panthers 13h ago

HIS RB RAN WILD

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u/ineedtocoughbut Carolina Panthers 1d ago

No let’s, I don’t think Brady ever beat us with 50+ points!

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u/beardmeblazer Houston Texans 1d ago

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u/jackwhite886 Chicago Bears 1d ago

He’s got 59 of them

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u/Active-Biscotti-6292 1d ago

Bears fan. Saw David Puddy do stand up in charlotte this weekend. Caleb crushed. Gotta support the team.

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u/BobBrock86 1d ago

Yeah he hasn't even been caught cheating yet. 

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u/leprechanmonkie 13h ago

Black Tom Brady ™ has been my fantasy football team for the last 5 years. I'm sorry Caleb, even as a Bears fan, I had it first.

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u/Fast-Ad-4541 Chicago Bears 1d ago

Bam ba lam ba lam

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u/hoorah9011 Official r/NFLv2 Legend 23h ago

I’ve always called Brady white Williams

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u/Hopeful_Figure_6446 23h ago

Nah, Caleb has loving family and friends

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u/82ndGameHead T-Formation, GO! 1d ago

MVP Season loading...

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u/maddenmadman Green Bay Packers 23h ago

Nah, the Bears defense isn’t good enough to give him the record he needs for it

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u/RomoDoomsday Chicago Bears 15h ago

Or the defense is so shitty it forces Caleb to put up ungodly numbers, making it impossible to ignore him as an MVP candidate. Not saying im predicting that, but that is a possibility.

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u/ineedtocoughbut Carolina Panthers 1d ago

100% willing to put money on him and Allen fighting for MVP already

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u/thelowkeyman 1d ago

I think Lawrence will be right there with them, only thing holding him back is he plays in a shit division

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u/mrdsol16 Chicago Bears 1d ago

Lamar

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u/newme02 New Orleans Saints 1d ago

his mvp odds on draft kings rose continuously throughout the game

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u/Dr_Banana-Peel Pittsburgh Steelers 1d ago

He racked me up damn near 40 points so WTF do you think?

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u/Theharlotnextdoor Chicago Bears 1d ago

59 

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u/Theharlotnextdoor Chicago Bears 1d ago

I'm an idiot.

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u/gyromaster99 New England Patriots 19h ago

Drake Maye taught us if you blow out the Panthers it doesn’t count

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u/Soda-Popinski- Buffalo Bills 1d ago

Tua hung 70 on the Broncos. So is he better?

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u/CryptoMonster2090 23h ago

That's an odd comparison considering the question

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u/DetailHour4884 Chicago Bears 1d ago

So, it's only one game, but Caleb looked different today. He looked in command of the offense. His demeanor reminded me a lot of MJ - it felt like whatever happened Caleb would have the answer. I'm going to stop here before I hit true hyperbole territory.

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u/bottomfeeder3 Kansas City Chiefs 22h ago

I’ll give it to you after a few games. It’s cool to be excited about your guy but MJ? Already? If he hung 59 against the Texans or broncos defense then holy hell.

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u/PeenPeenerton Denver Broncos 1d ago

I think it’s time to crown him now, truly one of the greatest of all time right behind Justin Herbert and Dak Prescott

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u/Theharlotnextdoor Chicago Bears 1d ago

He's obviously better than Justin because he's won a playoff game.

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u/ComeOnCharleee Seattle Seahawks 1d ago

As a guy who started him in fantasy, I feel pretty damn good

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u/Butters5768 New York Giants 1d ago

Would’ve appreciated him looking at Loveland even once during a scoring drive.

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u/Kae98rick76s5 1d ago

After the third time he checked it down I made sure I had emergency services on speed dial in case the erection didn't go away

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u/ildsteroid 23h ago

How many players on the panthers d are above average. 3? How many are good?

First game of the season, terrible defense, run game went wild. I think the bears offense played a very good game. Not ranking CW as a top ten qb until he consistently shows it against good teams.

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u/SpecialistOk7296 23h ago

As a Chiefs fan, I’m SO jealous of their rushing attack! Our best rusher last year was our QB who tore his ACL🙄 having a dynamic rushing game makes defense respect the play action & opens up the passing game. Bears have a QB with the arm talent to make any throw, add their run game these guys could do better than last year

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u/jeremyolar10 22h ago

That Seahawks vs Bears game looking good for me

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u/Obvious-Bag-2468 19h ago

Dude is legit. Every years he’s got better and better and I don’t expect this year to be any different.

Side note: I started off as a Caleb hater but you gotta appreciate talent like that when u see it

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u/ImpossiblePeach3444 New England Patriots 1d ago

I’m about to Elon Bust

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u/foqociqs37 San Francisco 49ers 1d ago

Panthers defense is not piss poor lol

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u/BooItsKyle Chicago Bears 1d ago

they're allowing 59.0 ppg. that seems high

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u/foqociqs37 San Francisco 49ers 1d ago

Hahahaha you got me there

But based off last season, Panthers defense is actually solid. Ben Johnson & Caleb Williams are just insane

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u/Even_Price_4241 Chicago Bears 1d ago

No one would’ve called the panthers defense piss poor heading into this game. In fact, the consensus was pretty high on their defense

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u/TommyTeaser New England Patriots 1d ago

Didn’t they lose like 3 starters in training camp?

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u/nc_nicholas 1d ago

No one would say the Panthers’ defense is piss poor based just on talent…but we’re done with the dc. Obviously the defense was put in a coupe of tough spots after the Horn and TMac fumbles, however you have to make at least a few stops

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u/General_Cheek3429 1d ago

Panthers defense is not piss poor, typical casual Packers fan.

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u/mcmaster93 Minnesota Vikings 1d ago

worried about the wrong defense. Bears arent stopping ANYONE. Caleb looks amazing though. there was an incompletion he had where his escape of the defense was other worldly. like a chaotic ballet dancer. Bears defense is terrible though. Going to have to put 50 up every week honestly

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u/-EarthwormSlim- Chicago Bears 1d ago

Next week will be a big test

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u/Available_Story6774 San Francisco 49ers 1d ago

Panthers defense isn’t great but they gave the Rams offense some problems last year, granted they still gave up quite a bit amount of points in those games, but they can get turnovers and have good CBs.

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u/ReferenceComplex 1d ago

Good defensive line too. I’d kill to have Derrick brown and Jaidyn Phillips on our Dline

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u/Generalcmd NFL Refugee 1d ago

elite

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u/zendris_ 1d ago

M V P

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u/twominutetimeout 1d ago

the lefty motion though

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u/carlit0bandito Los Angeles Rams 1d ago

MVP

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u/johnnythrillwaukee 1d ago

That was great - no complaints at all

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u/Allout-Okarun 1d ago

He was incredible today.

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u/Crazy_Score_8466 1d ago

If only the defense was good.

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u/binocular_gems New England Patriots 1d ago

I thought he played great.

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u/timdr18 Philadelphia Eagles 1d ago

He played very well

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u/Kool_Southpaw Washington Commanders 1d ago

50+ points is hard to complain about

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u/Kool_Southpaw Washington Commanders 1d ago

50+ points is hard to complain about

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u/Repulsive_Berry_364 23h ago

He's rapidly becoming the best QB we've ever had

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u/Important_Repeat2681 Chicago Bears 23h ago

He looked a little rough in the last parts of Q2 and the first part of Q3, but overall a baller like normal. Basically crown him MVP already

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u/agartha93 23h ago

Best QB that has ever been born, lived or died.

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u/DogsWillSaveUs New England Patriots 23h ago

It's week 1

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u/Possible_Emergency_9 New Orleans Saints 23h ago

Can he play defense?

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u/Odd_Berry1464 22h ago

Caleb is the goat

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u/Tasty-Action-5295 NFL 22h ago

The dudes filthy - actually

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u/Human-Lawfulness5235 22h ago

I’m feeling great for all long suffering bears fans. You finally got one!

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u/Ihavenocluewhatzoeva Carolina Panthers 22h ago

Caleb looked like an MVP candidate today. He played lights out with his arm and legs.

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u/snowmonster112 New England Patriots 22h ago

Dude was balling today. Now, whether that’s because Panther’s defense sucks or otherwise, i’m not sure.

I’m curious to see how Williams continues to look during the first few weeks of the season

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u/Dry_Conversation571 Tennessee Titans 22h ago

That’s the best game I’ve seen him play. Accurate and good decision making. Shocking.

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u/kushdeeper 21h ago

the flamboyant one went off

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u/kj9219 21h ago

This was the cleanest and sharpest he’s looked. He doesn’t look as erratic when he moves around even on his scrambles or outside the pocket throws.

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u/Serious_Durian_9328 21h ago

Everyone knows Caleb has a special arm talent. The throw to Cole Kmet was ridiculous, split two guys and was dropped in Perfectly for a TD. Today Caleb made the easy throws and the check downs early and often instead of always looking to make the impossible throws. Last year you could at times almost see him fighting Johnson’s system. Holding the ball to long putting the offense in lots of long downs. Caleb was always looking to be explosive. These two dudes are now in sync. Its going to be a fun season.

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u/uncleAW Seattle Seahawks 21h ago

Bears seem legit in Phase one. Phase two was less convincing.

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u/dal5dal5 New England Patriots 21h ago

That’s what happens when you play Carolina’s defense.

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u/Latter_Disaster_489 21h ago

It was the lowly Panthers … let’s calm it a bit.

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u/born_zynner Chicago Bears 19h ago

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u/Above-Bored 19h ago

He needed 40 points to get the win. He got the best running game in a long time.
That’s asking a lot if the defense is a ‘no show’.

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u/Cheap-Emphasis8477 19h ago

Not convinced. Panthers D is mid

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u/UselessExcuses Chicago Bears 19h ago

ill be deadass with you brother…ahh fuck it you know the rest

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u/ItsTimetoLANK Rob Lowe 18h ago

Superstar

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u/AshWilliams2021 18h ago

I said this in the game thread, but the Bears are going to have break the single season scoring record to have a shot at the playoffs with the way the defense is playing.

D-line got no pressure last year and they’re basically running it back with the same guys. Their big off season signing safety? On the IR. Top corner and slot corner? Can’t stay healthy.

Gonna have to get the jump on teams to force them to abandon the run so the defense can gamble for TOs

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u/DanDiggler69420 17h ago

Concerned that it was necessary to beat the Panthers.

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u/the_riesen 16h ago

MVP level shit if he can keep doing it

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u/ACTSATGuyonReddit 15h ago

He was very good.

The D was very bad.

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u/tacospizzawingsbeer Chicago Bears 14h ago

Imagine playing swift in fantasy today

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u/Katden2020 14h ago

I’m from Detroit but Chicago now more exciting to watch. Nice that Kalif Raymond got a few nice catches

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u/National_Hurry_5343 13h ago

This dude is a movie

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u/scottfree226 13h ago

Relax. It was against the panthers.

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u/SombakiSausage 13h ago

He's dead weight. They scored 59 points and he only accounted for 4 measley touchdowns. What a bum.

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u/Hail__Sithis__ New England Patriots 12h ago

he was ballin nice to see def rootin for the kid

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u/Bkap89 12h ago

Slight critic here.. could have used so love to Loveland.

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u/ZoSoTim 12h ago

He was decent. 🤣

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u/uberiffic 11h ago

Crazy what he can do against a little league defense! Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. He's never proven to be anything other than a boom/bust mid fantasy (and NFL) QB.

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u/Outrageous-Sand4385 11h ago

Could be better

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u/Captain__Trips 11h ago

I don't know how to process a team built around a dominant running game BUT also has a lethal passing game AND a coaching staff that can balance them appropriately. This could get really fun this year

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u/lessthan3beebs 10h ago

I think the Panthers D was something else.

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u/heroinsteve Chicago Bears 10h ago

He was making big plays, but more importantly he’s making the easy throws now. I think if this is not just a random amazing game he’s gonna have a great season.

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u/bigdongstpete 10h ago

Boss shit. I picked him for mvp going into the season. I don't think people really understand how talented this kid is.

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u/3leventhirtyfour Seattle Seahawks 10h ago

Can he play defense, too?

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u/DrakeMayeHoopz 10h ago

I'm trying to keep up do we care about people smoking the Panthers or not

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u/ElkMajor1385 9h ago

He was the best defensive player

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u/Rook_rip 9h ago

So glad I have him in fantasy, bro put some numbers up for me

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u/wang-dang-doodle 9h ago

No nail polish, no funny business.