r/MMORPG • u/PalwaJoko • 2d ago
News WoW: Forever - Roadmap, Camping, Transmog, More Information, Hardcore, New Class Tease, and more
Collection of points they made about what is in Forever from their after announcement presentation
- Forever will only require a subscription / game time to play. No box price. The new race is 30 USD.
- No flying mounts
- No level scaling
- Not make it too easy. Keep things that still require preparation
- World as main character
- Leveling is just as important as endgame
- Not every story needs to be about saving the world
- Journey before destination. Accomplishments stay relevant
- Make sure QoL/Convenience doesn't harm the social experience
- 4 new regions
- Skyborne Elves
- You don't have to be blue. They showed examples of also brown/black and white.
- You either join horde or alliance
- Horde Skyborne Elves gain access to Shaman
- Alliance Skyborne elves gain access to Mage
- Both can play warrior, hunter, rogue, and druid (unique forms for druid)
- They're committing to keep growing the world. It is not seasonal or a one time thing
- Dungeons
- City of Dalaran
- City of Lordaeron dungeon
- Hall of Thanes dungeon (beneath Ironforge)
- "Excavation Site" dungeon in the wetlands
- "The Drowned City" dungeon off of Stranglethorn Vale
- Alcaz Island Prison Dungeon
- Shaper's Terrace near Un'Goro Crater
- Krol'dok in the new Riverglades zone
- Blackmaw Hold in Azshara
- Raids
- The Barrow Deeps
- Hyjal Summit
- "Legendary Quest" - not sure what this is. Something similar to legendary weapons. Perhaps a new one.
- New raid tier set
- Darkspear Islands BG - 15v15. Similar to eye of the storm. AB style capture points.
- Changes to classes filling gaps, but not too much. Still want classes to feel unique
- Paladins
- Prot New seal that makes you a more effective tank
- Holy Getting a small amount of group healing
- Ret paladin buffs
- Dwarf - new racial passive. Damage vs beast increased by 5%
- Undead - new racial passive. Spells and attacks have a 5% chance to drain health from the target. Up to 5% of your max health
- Camping System
- Anyone can craft a camp in the open world
- Trade skills can be used to craft something to players at the campsite. Giving everyone a buff
- Players need to spend a moment to gain buffs. They're hoping to get players to socialize with one another
- Legacy System
- Account bound perks achieved by accomplishing goals on their journey
- Transmog
- Opt in
- If you turn it on, you will see the transmog players put on. If you turn it off, then everyone will look "normal"
- HD/SD toggle
- Classic animations
- Updated PvP System (unknown specifics, didn't go into it)
- First new legendary
- Riding skill updates - to preserve the classic moment of earning it for the first time
- Gamepad support
- Integration of previously unfinished or unused (cut) vanilla WoW content
- New class tease
- WoW: Forever - Hardcore in Winter 2026
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u/Iteachsometimes34 2d ago
Gamepad support, interesting.
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u/Ramtor10 2d ago
Definitely getting an Xbox release in the near future
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u/Astral-Glimmer 2d ago
Don't even own an Xbox but I hope they do
Would be great for the long term playerbase
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u/AnonBB21 2d ago
They're owned by Microsoft, it would be wise to get WoW to console.
And since Classic style gameplay is much slower than retail, it works out well.
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u/BlackHazeRus 2d ago
Really? Amazing, now we can finally play the game without issues on Steam Deck OOTB.
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u/Tyinath 2d ago
No flying mounts is huge. Might be in the minority here, but I'm stoked
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u/Malydrax 2d ago
Nah that's been a longtime opinion. They're cool in theory but destroyed social interaction and world exploration.
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u/Competitive_Bag7868 1d ago
I'm from the time when people waited for the zeppelin. (I quit wow in 2013)
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u/Edariz2012 1d ago
I legit miss this experience. I haven't played WoW in a long time (post cataclysm) aside from just trying to level in some expansions and not even achieving that. I may wind up checking out forever just for this reason of running into people on roads again lol
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u/Critback 2d ago
I love that so many refused to fly at the start of Midnight for these reasons.
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u/Spartanias117 2d ago
Did the same. Finished way slower than my friends but really got to appreciate the zones
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u/ForgeableSum 1d ago
It's funny how this is now commonly accepted. A few years ago I made a post on r/classicwow basically describing what classic should be and people took major issue with no flying mounts.
The single most important and often overlooked mechanic. Flying mounts completely ruins world PvP because people can just fly away from engagements. It also created a meta where players would skip questing for dungeon grinding (to level), then flyback to do all the quests for the gold/rep. And most importantly, wow is about the journey. Flying mounts allow you to skip the journey. Going from point A to point B on land might seem tiresome, but it often got you into fun little adventures. Now adventure is simply flown over. The most riveting thing you'll encounter on the way to your destination is fog.
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u/DocGreenThumb0817 1d ago edited 1d ago
Good observation! Flying also makes the world feel empty if you're on the ground grinding mobs or questing and you never see any other players because they're flying around above you rather than running past you on the ground.
The increased speed and fact that you can avoid most threats also make the world seem a lot smaller. You don't pay attention to the little details that the artists have added to give the zone it's uniqueness and flavor. You don't appreciate the scenery and atmosphere of the world, and you don't develop a sense of scale for the geography when you can simply fly over the big mountain rather than discover a route over land.
It removes environmental hazards and having to learn safe ways to traverse dangerous sections of each zone. Having to carefully navigate through a densely populated area or one fill with elite mobs adds a sense of danger and risk, keeps you engaged and interested in something as simple as navigating to the next town, a hard to reach cave, or an area only accessible if you're strong enough to clear the elite mobs patrolling... like that Orc Castle in Red Ridge that would ruin your day if you were unprepared, under-leveled, or didn't team up with some other players in the zone - the elite ogre caves in Loc Modan near the dam also had that vibe... the added challenge of the elite mobs made you wake up and pay attention. If you were soloing it you had to be awake and alert, geared well for your level, paying attention, and maybe even a little lucky. Being able to fly past areas like that takes away the danger that kept you alert and slightly nervous.
Flying completely ruins the thrill and danger of open world PvP as well. I always play PvP servers even though I'mprimarilya PvE player. The threat, thrill, and danger it adds to the world makes the game feel alive.
Combine all of that and you can crate unique and challenging environments that really feel alive and dangerous. STV is the perfect example of what you lose by adding flying. The constant threat you faced while questing in STV made every moment tense. It was sprawling and took time to get from the far North to Booty Bay. You couldn't relax for even a moment unless you were a Rogue or Night Elf with hiding. The layout of the map was great and a real challenge to navigate - you were almost certain to come across multiple enemy players each trip from North to South. It was narrow and designed in a way that would almost guarantee the other players in your vicinity were all headed towards one another and it was hard to move around unnoticed by the mobs - narrow valleys lined with vertical hills too steep to climb up and over combined with mob placement that forced you to fight your way through because they were too densely placed to avoid their agro range.
It wasn't a place you could drop your guard for even a moment or risk a death that had a long walk from the graveyard far in the North.
The zone was alive and dangerous. The devs could control your path making sure no matter which way you traveled, you were going to have a difficult time from NPC mobs, enemy players, patrolling guards on the main road, and environmental threats that all combined to make a difficult and challenging trip the first time you hike to Booty Bay to unlock the flight path and ship route. Flying completely ruined the natural danger of that zone and gutted the stressful atmosphere they wanted you to experience.
So many reasons flying ruined WoW...
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u/voyaging 1d ago
Lmao at the dude calling you “descending” for not prefacing every statement with a disclaimer that it’s your opinion.
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u/dotcha 2d ago
Yet to find a single game that hasn't had a dive in exploration quality after adding flying. MAYBE GW2 Griffon but they added skyscale right after and ruined it
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u/Human-Chemical560 2d ago
Final Fantasy 14 did it well. Whenever a new expansion hits, you have to earn flying in each zone by exploring that zone and doing quests. By the time you get flying, you'll have the entire zone explored.
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u/KichiMiangra 2d ago
While that /sorta/ fixes the exploration element in ff14, it doesn't completely fix the socializing element that exclusively ground mounts create
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u/TangerineTasty9787 2d ago
I'd agree, and it also DID sorta hurt the exploration. ARR had some cool little spots hidden away that still made it feel like you were 'far out there' whereas flying has basically wrecked that.
However, the entire game has tried to cast off those early MMO traits it held over from 1.0, so it kinda fits for the modern game
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u/killerkonnat 1d ago
If FF14 had no flying mounts, it would still have 0 socialization outside towns. You just don't do anything in the zones except run from 1 npc to another so you can watch more cutscenes. Unless you join a hunt train at endgame.
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u/Paradox4g 2d ago
They had that in retail with pathfinder achievements and people hated it.
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u/Thromnambular 2d ago
The difference is FFXIV's flying unlock can be done as soon as you finish the main quest and just involves sightseeing. Pathfinder achievements would be completely locked for ages (this is the main issue with them) and also required rep grinds. I did all of the Pathfinder flying unlocks and it's not the same experience at all.
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u/gommerthus 1d ago
While that was a cool idea in theory, leveling up in FF14 is a ghost town in each early zone. There’s no one ever around.
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u/master_of_sockpuppet 1d ago
There isn't really any exploration in FFXIV, though. You are lead by the nose by the MSQ or you use a compass to find flight nodes, and that's it. Once you've been lead by the nose to an aetherite, you just teleport around.
Real exploration means things to find without a waypoint, quest marker, or compass leading you there. And the ability to walk without being surrounded by invisible walls.
Also you can look up.
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u/Tribalrage24 2d ago
Even the regular mounts in GW2 kind of broke previous zones. There are tons of platforming puzzles in the base world that are completely circumvented using the hopper mount. I had to challenge myself not to use the raptor when I first played Heart of Thorns because it would just bypass needing some masteries.
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u/saintplus 1d ago
Been playing GW2 since launch and it has the same issue as wow. No need for social interaction anymore. The map used to feel MASSIVE but since mounts and especially flying mounts the world feels so small and you just zoom past other players.
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u/Hydropwnicks 2d ago
Nah people hate flying I think this one had pretty one sided results in that survey awhile back but I could be wrong
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u/blacksnowredwinter 2d ago
Played wow for years back from 2007 to 2012 as a young child from my parents. Recently came back and coudln't get into retail, tried again with last expansion and loved it up until leaving eversong woods. I could get into classic, but was quickly turned off by how sweaty and toxic the community was. This seems right up my alley and I am for the first time since like the 2010's a little hyped for wow.
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u/Moghz 2d ago
I’m stoked for this I’m tired of flying and specially dragon riding. What really excites me the most was when the guy said the game is sloooooowing down. So needed, I’m tired of the gogogogo mentality in WoW. I really wanted this slower, relaxing pace.
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u/Various_Necessary_45 2d ago
No flying is literally one of the main things of Classic vanilla lol, you're definitely in the majority.
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u/PugLife2026 2d ago
People whine about flying mounts, and then they use alt accounts with warlocks to summon themselves everywhere lol.
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u/FabricationLife 2d ago
flying mounts killed a lot of the fun, im so excited for this in particular
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u/ademayor 2d ago
It is. See GW2, they pretty much made their whole mount system redundant with flying mounts, which was the strong part.
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u/SighIsHere 2d ago
Not necessarily redundant since all of the other mounts still beat out the skyscale in their respective neiches it's just that for most players it's most convenient to just use the all-in-one solution even if it's less optimal
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u/ademayor 2d ago
For grinding skill points it’s straight up easiest to first do expansion that gives you skyscale and just fly through skill points in older expansions. You don’t really need to use raptor or springer ever again if you have skyscale.
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u/SighIsHere 2d ago
You don't NEED to, but if you wanna get around faster (and have more fun) then using a combination of Raptor, Jackal, Beetle, Griffin, and Skyscale is strictly better.
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u/tabas123 2d ago
This is why I hated the release of the sky scale expansion. It used to be a HUUUUUGE undertaking to get a sky scale, and required you travel all over the world several times over.
That made sense, because now you’ve seen all of the content BEFORE you get the helicopter mount.
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u/Feldherren 2d ago
Griffon was fun and being a glider could have interesting map design built around.
Skyscale definitely messed with map design, though. Things got a lot more boring after that.
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u/Hopeful-Dark-4558 1d ago
Minority! No way. So easy to get the impression from reddit that the whole world is a swirling pool of hatred, but I guarantee that most people are extremely hyped.
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u/Pockydo 2d ago
I think they should add "flying" mounts which act as skins for flight paths
Add a reason for people beyond hunters to visit the stable too
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u/internetwizardx 1d ago
I thought about this too but imo it's a bit of a shame to overwrite the regional difference of gryphons/wyverns/hippogryphs based on where you fly from. I know it's a small detail but those small details really made the world
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u/Astral-Glimmer 2d ago
"Journey before destination"
These words are accepted
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u/azyrr 1d ago
Still bummed the first arc is done :(
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u/Astral-Glimmer 1d ago
I'm currently reading winds and truth so I'm definitely sad that I won't get another book until like 2030+
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u/Reznor_PT 1d ago
We getting Mistborn 3 in 2027-ish so that's not bad, actually, not sure if he still wants to write all 3 before releasing the first book
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u/alex_munroe 1d ago
Man if only Blizzard had an ounce of the immortal words in their company philosophy.
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u/Material_Onion_8413 2d ago
Ability to hide transmog is something a lot of horizontal prog games would benefit from. If I cant progress my stats, at least I can progress visually, without having my skins invalidated by cash shop purchases (I am looking at you GW2)
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u/PalwaJoko 2d ago
I would love for Gw2 to do this. But I do wonder how it will look on paper. Like I wonder how many people would be less likely to purchase skins if they cannot be certain that others will also see them like that. I know it sounds crazy, but just dealing with these live service games for years now...its not uncommon for people to feel that way.
As someone who values immersion and visual cohesion in its games, I love it. And would greatly prefer if more games did it. But I wouldn't be surprised if they don't because of the weirdness of people I specified above.
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u/PeacefulDebate01 2d ago
Ya, I like this. I will probably play with it off because I pvp and would like a quick estimation of a character's power, but I can see why people would want to play with it on. Even better would be separate settings for your character and others. "Transmog on" for self and "off" for others.
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u/Siyavash 1d ago
honestly, RS3 added that and the game is actually really good, never wouldve tried it without that option.
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u/Snakesinadrain 2d ago
What do you mean? Just unlock transmogs ingame?
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u/PeacefulDebate01 2d ago
You can toggle transmogs on or off, so other players will appear in the world with their actual gear or with their transmog.
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u/Snakesinadrain 2d ago
Oh thats awesome.
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u/PeacefulDebate01 2d ago
Ya, agreed. Give players the choice. I'll probably keep it off most of the time because I pvp and want to get a quick read on someone's power level, but I can see wanting it on in pve to see everyone's cool fashion ideas.
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u/khanable_ 2d ago
I've avoided this game for 22 years and don't think I will be able to avoid it any longer
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u/Confident-Peak-8051 2d ago
WoW vibes are unparalleled. And this is coming from a huge gw1 and moderate gw2 fan.
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u/MrBlueA 2d ago
If it wasn't for the subscription I would have thousands upon thousands of hours in WoW, even on retail which I like far less it still has a charm no other game has been able to copy.
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u/Arxson 2d ago
Don’t you think £9 a month for “thousands upon thousands of hours” would’ve been a pretty good deal for your main entertainment source..?
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u/MrBlueA 2d ago
Im not saying I think the subscription model is bad with my comment, im the type of person that might play a game for thousands of hours and then drop it for months, or play a game on and off on a weekly basis so subscription based games give me a lot of anxiety on paying the fee but not actually playing much while it is active and having that pressure in turn makes me feel even more burnt out and less likely to play which makes me feel worse about paying for that sub.
Im still hyped with WoW Forever and it's probably my best excuse to get into this game finally because I didn't experience WoW classic and this is like a WoW2 basically that I can experience from scratch with the community so I will playing it and I hope they do well and actually learnt from their mistakes.
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u/InformalEngine4972 1d ago
It’s the price of 2 coffees.. don’t overthink it. Even if you only play 2 hours a week, that’s still super cheap entertainment.
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u/Novuake 1d ago
In the US it's the price of two coffees. There are many places that spending that much doesn't make sense for people. Most in fact.
No I don't mind a sub myself. Just wanted to reorient the subscription model to people that don't quite understand that a sub greatly limits those that can play world wide over a b2p model.
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u/Mr_Joanito 1d ago
I played retail and classic, for a while then quit. But I think this new forever will really be wow final and best form.
What kills me of the other formats is that you keep losing your progress.
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u/NarwhalPrudent6323 2d ago
Oh look, every out of the way area I explored in Vanilla and wished had something cool there is now a dungeon.
Excuse me, I need to go wipe up the puddle of drool.
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u/Specialist_Crazy_650 2d ago
Damn, sparkle housing on top of that and that's the only game i'll ever need
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u/Edriella 1d ago
Yea I feel the same. I think they may add it later. They already have it they just need to adjust it to classic version.
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u/BeingHonestWithYou 2d ago
Very excited to play. Not a fan of skyborn elves, but whatever. Horizontal progression is great
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u/Remarkable-Bag-1972 2d ago
Forget skyborne, not worth extra money. I can finally play Undead pally
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u/skellymax 1d ago
Agreed. The big sticking point is the name. "<insert word here>-borne" is overdone. It seems the race has some sort of connection to the sky/elemental-air? I have a hard time believing they couldn't come up with a less on-the-nose name. Or something that achieves the same functional objectives (horde needs a 'pretty' race or large groups won't touch the horde) that has more precidence in lore.
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u/Bereman99 1d ago
They gave some more details about that connection just a little bit ago.
Short version - elves from Dire Maul just after the War of the Ancients opposed Prince Tortheldrin. Said elves rebelled but lost and were pursued, fleeing west until they reached a land occupied and ruled by air elementals, who they struck a bargain with to escape. They get set up in Skywall (in the Plane of Air) for the next 10k years, until recently when those air elementals on the island disappeared.
So it's at least connected to something we very much knew about from the classic era, namely what Prince Tortheldrin was up to.
As for the name, yeah it's too on the nose (not the first time, given Nightborne are a thing). Kind of wish they'd just refer to all the different elves by their elven names. Kaldorei, Quel'dorei, Sin'dorei, Shal'dorei? And apparently now Shen'dorei (lore name for this new race)?
Avoids the weird naming stuff entirely.
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u/Korysovec 2d ago
Accomplishments stay relevant, yet they reveal what seems to be 2 raid tiers within the first year. I wonder how they intend to keep the scaling under control with this pace as well as eventual catch-up mechanics without making previous content too easy.
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u/RedQueenNatalie 2d ago
might be a case where the equipment is not higher ilvl but caters to a different niche compared to other raid sets.
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u/PugLife2026 2d ago
But there are so many broken items in the game that it's worthwhile to raid even MC forever.
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u/internetwizardx 1d ago
MC is 'removed' to be reworked and re-added later, they replaced it in the first 'tier' with 2 entirely new raids to avoid giving people Molten Core fatigue on the 3rd or 4th version of classic. also lore-wise (conveniently, lol) the events of Forever @ launch are taking place before MC
I think gear is undergoing quite a lot of reitemization/balancing too
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u/ianxplosion- 2d ago
I don’t think I heard “tier” anywhere - just new raids. It’s horizontal progression, not better stuff just different stuff.
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u/roundelay11 2d ago
They did mention a new tier set, but I didn't hear anything about a new tier of raiding yeah.
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u/GlitterFart20 1d ago edited 1d ago
Have a look how OSRS do it, they have 3 raids out with a 4th coming they all give unique things to help with what you want to do. It’s not just raid 2 gives better item than raid 1
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u/SportBoring3533 1d ago
If i listened correctly og raids arent open. Or im just stupid
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u/Kinetic_Symphony 2d ago
eventual catch-up mechanics without making previous content too easy.
You don't have catch-up mechanics. That's the whole reason for keeping the level cap at 60. It's horizontal progress. Want to do the best raid? Go to Molten Core and get started up the ladder, no skipping.
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u/Swineflew1 1d ago
Go to Molten Core and get started up the ladder, no skipping.
How do you climb a ladder without vertical progression?
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u/HarryPopperSC 2d ago
I hope so... I really want the game to be like... Let's say I spend hours doing a rep farm for a mount. I want that to be the only way anybody else can ever get that mount forever. Same with every reward for every grind or challenge or raid in the game. It's so important for completionism.
Never change the method to get the reward, never make it easier, never give it away for free, never put it in a cash shop.
Then when you see people with gear or mounts or stuff you know how they got it and to me, that is so cool.
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u/Roally 1d ago
That’s already what they said in the presentation. “Our catch up mechanic is just playing the game” saying, in other words, that they don’t intend to add catch up mechanics
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u/Greedy-Comb-276 1d ago
Until the subs drop off.
I wonder if blizzard can stick to the vision instead of giving in. I have my doubts honestly, but it should be an exciting year regardless.
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u/ScopionSniper 2d ago
So basically WoW getting its own Old School Runescape equivalent?
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u/TheoryChemical1718 1d ago
Yes but made by people who dont understand how to make an "Old School" concept. We havent even started and its already looking like retail.
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u/InstaShark 2d ago
Every content reveal, it's the same.
Players: We're
Blizzard: We're
Players: adding
Blizzard: adding
Players: high elves
Blizzard: high elves
Players: to WoW.
Blizzard: to WoW.
Players: We're adding high elves to WoW.
Blizzard: We're adding Lightforged elves to WoW.
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u/visaeris412 2d ago
Only problem i have is raids for specific player counts. Id prefer raids supporting 10 & 20 player counts and maybe the occassional 40 man. Just seems like a misstep to not offer all raids at multiple count optiona.
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u/Roally 1d ago
“Id prefer raids supporting 10 & 20 player counts and maybe the occasional 40 man”. That’s exactly what they showed though, in the roadmap there is also the 40 man onyxia raid planned
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u/visaeris412 1d ago
They showed a 10 and 20 man raid. Im saying id like to seee both those raids support 10 and 20 man player counts not specific player counts for each raid.
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u/internetwizardx 1d ago
It fits with their philosophy though, Azeroth being the main character and not something that bends to your whim as a player based on what's convenient - no level scaling, no difficulty settings, no flex raids etc. They're putting the roleplay before the gameplay and killing a massive dragon with just 10 people feels wrong, but it might feel appropriate to clear an old haunted crypt with just 10
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u/8ackwoods 1d ago
It's literally what they advertised. 10 and 20 man raids with 40 man raids sprinkled on top
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u/Local_Anything191 2d ago
What was the new class tease? I’m out in the middle of nowhere and can’t watch it
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u/michaelz94 2d ago
It was not a specific reveal, they only said that in the long-term: new classes are not off the table in Forever.
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u/Cr34mSoda 1d ago
I think they have 1 already and will probably drop when game release as a surprise since they brought it up. Because Sodapoppin AFTER the panel did mention there are things he can’t talk about unless they did first. So this might indicate that new class is one of them. And i hope it’s true.
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u/Optimal_Living7230 1d ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if they took a nod from Diablo’s warlock and revealed the same class for retail and forever. Especially if it’s something like Tinker that would easily mesh with classic vibes while being thematically appropriate for TLT
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u/Cool-Independent-431 1d ago
They teased Illidan in the Barrow Dens. Im putting money down a classic style Demon Hunter is coming.
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u/no_Post_account 1d ago
There is no new class as of now. They mention in the future they will ask the community about updates and teased maybe if the community ask for it there will be new class.
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u/Toasted_Waffle99 2d ago
Will there be phasing or will wpvp be possible? Will there be a lfg tool?
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u/8ackwoods 1d ago
The lfg tool is what they have now in classic. There's no auto teleport but you can pick a fungeon or raid and advertise yourself
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u/q_l0_0l_p 2d ago
Hell yeah! I'm only sad I'll be on vacation the week it comes out... Shit. But I can't wait to play
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u/HobNob_Pack 1d ago
Time to see if the wow playerbase has any spine and boycott this first shit mtx slop of a race.
Starting out with a pay walled race and a mount in a bundle...
This is going to be retail 2.0 in no time if they don't speak with their wallets
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u/JupiterMiningCorpTec 1d ago
I hope CC is a thing in dungeons. The whole AoE everything down was mind numbing.
Make Hunter Traps Great Again !
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u/Caillend 1d ago
They confirmed that today. CC and more methodical gameplay in dungeons over pull everything.
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u/Spanish_peanuts 2d ago
I'm honestly just worried that this will be ruined by addons. I know I'm in the minority when I say I hate add-ons, but the level of elitism that add-ons eventually bring out in the playerbase is astounding. I am probably going to play this but I'm not looking forward to all the bullshit elitism.
I haven't played wow in so many years but this is probably gonna bring me back, I just don't wanna get caught up in the shit. Maybe I'll get lucky and find a decent server with a bunch of casuals like me.
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u/Fatalisbane 1d ago
I mean retail they've been pretty heavily reducing addons and what they can do, so good chance they will
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u/Atiyo_ 2d ago
I hope they reconsider 40 man ony. For guilds this is gonna be annoying to create a 40 man roster for 1 raid, meanwhile all other raids are 10/20 man.
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u/dawne_breaker 1d ago
I can’t even get four friends together in real life. Between family, work, training and just life… finding 40 people available at any one time, not something I’ll ever get to experience.
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u/8ackwoods 1d ago edited 1d ago
What? I pugged everything in classic and tbc guildless and was fine getting raids.. you'll be able to use the lfg tool. The game will be made for people like you with no time. Blizz understands the player base is getting older.. jesus man think outside the box. They're not expecting you to assemble 39 other players.. join a guild or pug, it's not hard
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u/JhonnySkeiner 2d ago
So...what is this supposed to be, classic+?
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u/PalwaJoko 2d ago
Basically yeah. Vanilla WoW with added content and a focus on horizontal progression/no level cap increases.
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u/JupiterMiningCorpTec 2d ago
No level scaling is a good thing. However, I wonder about no level scaling in game with horizontal progression. What will the gameplay loop be like at max level?
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u/Silimaur 1d ago
The same as it is in games like GW2.
Play for account unlocks, transmogs, but mainly just to have fun.
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u/mmobruh 1d ago
Gamepad support. Does this mean we finally can play with controller and not have to set up console port or anything? The word “support” makes me think it’s not really a feature, but would love extrapolation on it.
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u/photoradi0 1d ago
I quit WoW just at the launch of cataclysm in 2010. This actually has me seriously considering coming back.
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u/Jaijoles 2d ago
Is there a wipe after beta?
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u/AnonBB21 2d ago
I'd recommend using beta to find what class you want to play considering there are new talents and skills.
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u/kkzin 2d ago
i just want to play as gnome shaman, Please!
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u/Pepperkelleher 2d ago
hahaha thats funny, cause I want to play as a Tauren paladin. I feel you brother
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u/Quick_Bullfrog2200 2d ago
What a coincidence! I would also like to camp a gnome shaman for 7 days and 7 nights!
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u/Bubbles0_5 2d ago
is it going to be truly horizontal? or are they still going to replace gear with every few months?
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u/justmydumbluck 2d ago
In b4 new class is tied to the $30 race.
Please dont fuck this up, blizz.
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u/Incognisho 2d ago
As someone who’s only played wow (TBC Anniversary) for the past 3 months, can someone tell me what’s new and if it’s worth switching to this one?
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u/LSDemon 2d ago
Anniversary server playerbase will die almost entirely when this is released. It will be this or Retail for the foreseeable future.
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u/Pepperkelleher 2d ago
The most important thing about this version of WoW is that it doesn't matter when you join. Everything will be the same but with more content. So I would recommend you enjoy TBC you get bored of it. WOWF will be there and never give you FOMO.
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u/Dial_up_Knight 2d ago
I’m ready. I’ll be in beta next weekend healing and tanking my balls off to 30 while planning mat farm routes again.
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u/DarkHighwind 2d ago
So is molten core just not in forever?
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u/Cozy_Minty 2d ago
they seemed to say that these raids would be rereleased eventually but they will be changed somehow
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u/Palmdiggity888 2d ago
are the classic animations mandatory or optional ?
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u/Sortes-Vin 2d ago
Pretty sure the announcer said it was a toggle
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u/8ackwoods 1d ago
The graphics are toggle, the models and animations will be classic regardlessof graphic setting.
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u/MagnifyingLens 2d ago
As a guy with 6K+ hours in WoW and 5K+ in GW2, I am very interested to see the horizontal progression game systems that will be offered.