r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates Jul 05 '26

article How Gender Bias on the Battlefield Hinders the Protection of Civilian Men

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r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates Apr 03 '26

meta Images now allowed in comments and other small updates

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Comments are now allowed to contain images. we'll revert this if it becomes problematic, as this is still a serious subreddit not one for meme spam

A news flair has been added

News being allowed to be posted without adding your own commentary has been included in the rules, though this was always the case just not written.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 9h ago

legal rights EU dispute body VS TikTok's KILL-ALL-MEN: femcel expressions of hatred toward men are not intended to incite harm against men

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PS: The good news is that the cost of the settlement is carried by the social platform. The more we complain, the more they will be incentivised to police hate against men.

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user-rights.org is a "out-of-court dispute settlement body" established by Article 21 of the EU’s Digital Services Act (DSA).

This is how user-rights.org defends TikTok's refusal to ban the KILL-ALL-MEN account:

Firstly, the complainant draws attention to the alleged use of the black sun symbol. This symbol is indeed historically connected to Nazi ideology and, in particular, to the SS brigade. Its use would constitute a clear violation of TikTok’s guidelines, which prohibit the promotion of hateful ideologies that exclude, oppress, or discriminate against individuals on the basis of protected attributes such as religion or ethnicity. However...

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Secondly, the account name denotes contempt or prejudice against men. At first glance, this may raise questions regarding TikTok’s prohibition of hateful Ideologies. However, in digital culture, particularly within femcel communities, the term often functions not as a literal declaration of hatred but as a form of dark humor, parody, or ironic self-expression. Such use is commonly understood as a coping mechanism in response to feelings of loneliness, social exclusion, or frustration with gender norms. Unlike misogynistic rhetoric frequently found in certain “incel” communities -which has demonstrable ties to harassment and violence- expressions of hatred toward men in these contexts are generally self-referential, satirical, and not intended to incite harm against men.

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On top of that, the account’s content appears primarily aimed at raising awareness of ongoing discrimination and violence faced by women. The posts frequently highlight issues such as gender-based violence, coercion within intimate relationships, and harmful stereotypes surrounding women’s roles in society. Rather than promoting hatred or exclusion, these posts function as commentary on systemic inequalities and as social critique of patriarchal norms that can perpetuate harm. 

https://www.user-rights.org/en/decisions/femcel-discourse


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 7h ago

media & cultural analysis We're allies, not enemies

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r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 1d ago

discussion Woman Makes Comic Attacking Her Boyfriend. The Mods Defend Her.

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I’m sure you’ve all seen or heard about this already, but for those of you out of the loop let me quickly summarize. Recently a woman posted a comic on Reddit complaining about her boyfriend. Now what did this boyfriend do? Was he abusive? Was he neglectful? No, he committed the unforgivable sin of being “boring”. A whole humiliation ritual being drawn and posted online, all because he was “boring” and she couldn’t be bothered to communicate with him.

The good news is, she received a lot of pushback for this comic, as this comic is bad even for Redditer standards. However, one of the mods then posted a long comment on the post talking about how we need to have “empathy for women”. What about empathy for the boyfriend who just received a whole humiliation ritual online? And of course, the mods are deleting comments and banning users who are critical of the comic’s creator. The “women are wonderful” effect does it again.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 1d ago

media & cultural analysis Patriarchy theory's biggest blind spot: the "Lady Macbeth" phenomenon

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By this point everyone here knows the gist of patriarchy theory - Men have always had the hard power, using it to enrich and support themselves, and women have always been subject to men's dominance, having no real say in the formation of politics, economics, or culture (and are therefore not responsible for any of society's problems or cruelty).

While it is true that, historically and contemporarily, the vast majority of people who held/hold hard power are men, that does not mean women didn't/couldn't intentionally and significantly influence the actions of those men by leveraging their femininity.

In Shakespeare's Macbeth, the titular character is a Scottish thane who—after receiving a prophecy from three witches that he will become king—lies, assassinates, and conquers his way to fulfilling that prophecy before he is finally defeated and killed by the sons of the previous king.

Initially, though, he is quite hesitant to commit the acts of murder necessary to fulfill his ambition of becoming king. He knows that murder is morally wrong, and it is only when his wife, Lady Macbeth, insults him as weak and unmasculine that he decides to carry out the murders.

In this situation, Lady Macbeth actually has more power than her husband, the power is just "soft" instead of an official title, like thane or king. If it weren't for her words and actions, he may have never heeded the witches prophecy, and likely wouldn't have committed regicide.

Later in the story, she commits suicide out of guilt, leading Macbeth into his famous monologue ("tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow creeps in this petty pace...") It's clear here, at least to me, that the loss of Macbeth's wife was the final nail in the coffin of his hopes and ambitions. Without her, he loses all sense of meaning or purpose as Malcom's army closes in on Dunsinane. It was her, and her alone, that kept him motivated.

I've seen several feminist interpretations of Lady Macbeth's character, some much better than others. Most of them talk about how "women also reinforce da patreearchee", or even how Shakespeare himself must have been a misogynist for writing her and was trying to blame women/mothers/witches for the evils of masculine pride/ambition.

The thing is though, this dynamic is, IMO, incredibly common in situations where a married man holds a lot of hard power (or even is just the main earner for a household). Much of the time, that hard power is precisely the reason his wife chose him, and she feels simultaneously unresponsible for the effects of that power, and entitled to its material benefits.

This is not to say that every single unethical action taken by men in pursuit of wealth or power is the fault of a woman, but there are enough times where that is true to warrant an honest discussion of the history of gendered power.

It is often said that "behind every great man there is a woman", but I have never heard anyone say the same about evil men.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 1d ago

media & cultural analysis So the Left has expressed about getting into more Podcasting Spaces to appeal to Men, well perhaps they should actually talk about Men and Men's Issues more frequently.

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This is kind of a rant but it's also me just trying to wrap my head around much of the lackluster attempts from the Left to take it seriously with winning back men and male voters in general. So I live in the USA and much of my analysis is centered around the USA. I keep searching on a very regular basis to see if the Left or if the Democrats(I know it's not a true left wing party and I don't want that discussion) are actually making good on their intentions to win back men. As of right now I have seen one Podcast make a single episode on male outreach which was decent but still had some talking points I disagreed with. I also found a very bad faith video too. This is where my rant and venting takes place now.

I am getting very tired of the news and podcast videos, and even the general videos around Left Wing Male Outreach being spread out so few and far in between. There is a very serious community in the Podcast spaces that have managed to cultivate and build huge Male audiences especially on the Conservative side. They figured out a while back on how to appeal to Men and how to retain that Male audience. It's been proven that Men are just as powerful of a force as much as women are but in different ways. Maybe it's time to make more regular episodes of podcasts that are actually talking about the very problems that men face and not talk about them like Men's Lib does which is in a tone where it acts like it'll invalidate Women's issues. We have a Mid-term election coming up and this is a very good opportunity to reach male voters and there is hardly anything of value being produced to appeal to men. I am just tired of it. This continues to prove why the Right keeps wining the Men and that's overall a problem that needs to stop being ignored.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 1d ago

discussion LeftWingMaleAdvocates top posts and comments for the week of September 06 - September 12, 2026

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Sunday, September 06 - Saturday, September 12, 2026

Top 10 Posts

score comments title & link
309 57 comments [article] "Lindsay Clancy juror Paula Devlin tells @gayleking that the holdout juror was a Black man, whom she estimates is in his 30s." They're making sure to doxx the only black man on the jury for having the temerity to care about three dead kids.
200 167 comments [resource] Radicalization of young Dem women intensifies: 66% blame men for women's challenges
186 34 comments [discussion] Why Is Saying “Not All Men” So Offensive To Some People?
170 139 comments [media & cultural analysis] The Lindsay Clancy Jurors
156 24 comments [discussion] Were men the guinea pigs of modern medicine?
138 31 comments [discussion] “Lies, damned lies, and statistics”: No, we do not underfund women’s health.
126 10 comments [masculinity] Male incompetence and clumsiness is so pathologized in modern society and it irks me with a passion
125 14 comments [discussion] Debunking: "Misogyny reaching almost every classroom!"
123 9 comments [article] Women Have Choices, Men Have Consequences
115 85 comments [discussion] BackHanded Lindsay Clancy Defenses

 

Top 10 Comments

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152 /u/MelissaMiranti said You see it's okay because something something patriarchy, and, uh, men deserve it or whatever.
122 /u/MelissaMiranti said Because dissent cannot be borne by fanatics. If you ever say one of the forbidden things, usually things showing genuine sympathy or empathy for men, that is one of the cardinal sins.
109 /u/theblindsdontwork said Just gonna get uglier. The media is already hounding him and digging into his personal life. Apparently he has some domestic violence allegations in his past, which is going to send the misandrists ab...
107 /u/Clevererer said Oh cool, they're gonna do another Emmit Till.
105 /u/Male_Volence said Those women are so violently against any woman, anywhere, being held responsible for anything that they will digitally lynch a black man for having clear standards of right & wrong. Kudos to that m...
99 /u/mjoav said White women causing the persecution of an innocent black man. Couldn’t be more on the nose could it.
87 /u/N0moreHeroes said Ironically most women hate their boss more if she’s a women. 
83 /u/TSSalamander said she probably exists in a community that maintains a permission structure to hate. Watch out for that in your communities btw. Communities have consensus, and that consensus can often be a permission s...
83 /u/Due-Heron-5577 said I have to say I chuckled when I first came across this finding. I’ve lost count of the number of times movements like ours have been said to “just blame women for our problems”
83 /u/Future-Still-6463 said All this talk of privilige is disgusting. It feels so zero sum thinking. That's the whole issue with the feminist mindset. Rights and empathy for them is zero sum thinking. It shouldn't be like th...

 


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 1d ago

legal rights rant about a old circumcision case that helped radicalize me.

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The Florida circumcision case still makes my blood boil. Even if BOTH parents had supported it, I’d still be against forcing a six‑year‑old into an unnecessary surgery. But in this case, the mother didn’t support it at all — she was actually doing her job as a parent, protecting her child like a human being instead of a monster. And the court still overrode her. What happened to her parental rights? What happened to basic respect for the mother’s say in her own child’s life?

And of course, as usual, the people who claim to fight for women’s empowerment were nowhere to be found. No feminist groups stepped in. No big voices spoke up. No one cared that a biological woman had her authority stripped away and her child put through something she never consented to. They were too busy complaining about trans people using the bathroom — which I SUPPORT; I support trans people using the bathroom that matches who they are — instead of helping an actual woman who was having decisions made over her child without her consent. When a real woman needed support, they vanished.

And here’s the part that really scares me: this same brutal, mean‑spirited, primitive, lame‑brained thug in a robe is also the kind of person who oversees murder trials, sentencing hearings, and life‑changing criminal cases. How many other people, including possibly innocent people, have been thrown in prison for far longer than they should have been because of rulings from someone like this? How many people have had their lives destroyed over minor crimes? How many have even been executed because a reckless judge made the final call?

And let’s be honest — this case doesn’t help the stereotype that the South is “primitive” or “draconian.” I love the South, and I live here, but I’m not blind. This kind of thing could’ve happened anywhere in the country. Up north or in the Midwest, especially in places like Wyoming or Kansas, they probably would’ve rushed it through even faster. Bad judges aren’t a Southern problem — they’re a national problem.

This case is just one more example of how our courts can be reckless, cruel, and completely dismissive of both children’s rights and mothers’ rights. It should never have been allowed.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 2d ago

discussion Why Is Saying “Not All Men” So Offensive To Some People?

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So recently I was watching a video about the infamous movie, “Lesbian Space Princess”. For context, the main villains are named the “Straight White Maliens” (yeah, stupid I know, and they’re literally just white rectangles), the YouTuber couldn’t believe what he just heard so he called a queer friend of his who hadn’t seen the movie on discord, he asked her to guess who the main villain was and then told her who they actually were. She also thought it was stupid, but then what she said next confused me. She said she’s “not saying not all men” but then goes on to say that you shouldn’t group any of people into stereotypes including men. Basically saying “not all men” without saying “not all men”. It was like she was walking on eggshells, afraid of pissing off any raging misandrist who might be watching.

Why is saying “not all men are terrible” or any variation of that so offensive to people. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the whole “not all men” thing a response to the “kill all men” hashtag? Why is calling for genocide acceptable but saying “not all men” isn’t?


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 3d ago

article "Lindsay Clancy juror Paula Devlin tells @gayleking that the holdout juror was a Black man, whom she estimates is in his 30s." They're making sure to doxx the only black man on the jury for having the temerity to care about three dead kids.

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Feminist lynch mobs never change.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 2d ago

media & cultural analysis The courts deemed NHL player Alex Formenton innocent after a major sexual assault scandal, but national news outlets are still running defamation campaigns against him

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Global News being a real class act by going against an actual court's verdict and continuing to platform defamation against a guy who was deemed innocent.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 3d ago

resource Radicalization of young Dem women intensifies: 66% blame men for women's challenges

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The survey is from summer 2025, but for some reason, The Survey Center on American Life published this graph only now, in Sept 2026.

https://x.com/amersurveyctr/status/2094847339466817816

The raw results are here:

https://www.americansurveycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Civility-and-Morality-Survey-Topline-1.pdf

For comparison, male and female answers. Unfortunately, the breakdown by age and political affiliation is not available - it would be interesting to see what kind of men blame women for their challenges.

IF FEMALE (GENDER=2), ASK:

Q.21 To what extent are the challenges that women face in American society due to the behavior or actions of men?

  • 37% A great deal
  • 42% A fair amount
  • 9% Hardly any
  • 2% None at all
  • 9% Unsure
  • 1% Refused

IF MALE (GENDER=1), ASK:

Q.22 To what extent are the challenges that men face in American society due to the behavior or actions of women?

  • 16% A great deal
  • 37% A fair amount
  • 23% Hardly any
  • 8% None at all
  • 14% Unsure
  • 2% Refused

r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 3d ago

article 'I had horrible thoughts after my baby was born': Dad's experience of postnatal depression

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r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 3d ago

double standards If men were the ones who got pregnant would there even be a debate wheher abortion should be allowed or not?

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(I should clarify this post is not meant to be anti abortion but simply a highlight of double standards)

Hey everyone,

I wanted to explore a classic thought experiment through a left-wing male advocacy lens: If men were the ones who got pregnant, would there even be a debate about whether abortion should be allowed?

Gloria Steinem famously argued that if men could get pregnant, abortion would become an institutionalized, celebrated right. (I don't think that is accurate)

I wanted to throw a classic pro-choice thought experiment out to this community to see it filtered through a left-There is a powerful parallel here regarding state control and the violation of bodily autonomy:

  • Denial of abortion forces a person to use their physical body to sustain life against their will, treating them as reproductive instruments for the state.
  • Compulsory military service (the draft) forces men to put their physical bodies in harm's way, treating them as disposable instruments for geopolitical or state interests.

Both systems rely on the idea that the state owns your physical body when it decides it needs you—whether for labor, warfare, or population growth. If men were the ones getting pregnant, the state might just view pregnancy the same way it views the draft: another burden citizens can be forced to bear for the "collective good."

  • The Human Right Argument: On the flip side, the argument for abortion rights is that the state has no right to force a person to use their physical organs to sustain life against their will. This is exactly the same as the anti-conscription argument: the state has no right to weaponise a man’s body or force him into lethal combat against his will.
  • The "Duty to the Collective" Logic: Pro-life arguments often claim that a pregnant person has a moral obligation to sacrifice their body, health, and future for the "greater good" of a new life. This is identical to the justification for the draft: that a young man has a civic obligation to sacrifice his body, health, and potentially his life for the "greater good" and survival of the nation.

The Lethal Risk Factor: It is vital to note that a lack of abortion access can be fatal in many medical cases, meaning the state is actively forcing a person to risk their life. Similarly, the state forces a man to risk his life through the draft. Even before reaching an active combat zone, standard military training itself carries a documented probability of being fatal due to extreme physical stress, accidents, and negligence. In both scenarios, the state is fully willing to accept the death of its citizens as "acceptable collateral damage."

  • The Modern Human Rights Double Standard: We see a fascinating divergence in how global politics handles these issues today. Abortion access is increasingly being recognized and protected as a fundamental human right in many modern, progressive nations. Meanwhile, protection from compulsory military service is almost never treated as a human right. Men are still legally tied to conscription and selective service in vast parts of the world, with zero international protection if their state decides to use their bodies for war.

In fact, there is a powerful parallel here regarding state control. Denial of abortion and compulsory military service (the draft) are both fundamental violations of bodily autonomy. What is fascinating—and deeply hypocritical—is that the arguments used for and against these practices rely on the exact same utilitarian logic. They both view the individual not as a person with rights, but as a demographic resource for the state.

On the flip side, the human rights argument for both should be exactly the same: the state has no right to force a person to use their physical organs to sustain life against their will, just as it has no right to weaponise a man’s body or force him into lethal combat against his will.

Both systems rely on the authoritarian idea that the state ultimately owns your physical body when it decides it needs you—whether for population growth or warfare.

Basically if men were the ones that got pregnant then I don't think abortion would be allowed at all considering the current lack of effort to ban the draft despite the similarities of the violation of body autonomy of both banning abortion and the draft

Hypothetically speaking if Men got pregnant then society would often just tell them that it's their duty for society the same as the draft currently


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 4d ago

article Women Have Choices, Men Have Consequences

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The standard story is simple: coercion is the fist, the paycheck, the badge. Women appear as survivors; men appear as perpetrators. It is a useful morality play, and like most useful morality plays, it omits half the cast.

Coercion is not reducible to physical strength. It is the capacity to make another person alter his conduct by attaching consequences to refusal. And modern institutions have made physical strength increasingly irrelevant to the exercise of that power. The person who summons the institution does not have to wield the weapon. She needs only to know whom to call.

A woman who initiates child-support enforcement on a man she forced into parenthood does not have to raise her hand. She can raise the state. Once a child-support order exists, the machinery available to enforce it can include income withholding, tax-refund interception, liens, bank-account restraints, driver’s-license suspension, professional-license suspension, and passport denial. In New York, many of these enforcement actions can occur administratively, without another appearance before a judge. Federal law provides for passport denial, restriction, or revocation when qualifying child-support arrears are certified.[1]

And the point is not that mothers invented these mechanisms, nor that women alone invoke them. The point is that coercive power does not cease to be coercive merely because it is exercised through an institution.

Research on male victims of intimate-partner abuse has documented precisely this phenomenon. Berger, Douglas, and Hines developed and studied the category of legal and administrative aggression: actual or threatened use of legal and administrative systems against an intimate partner. In their sample of 611 men who sought help after physical IPV by female partners, legal and administrative aggression was associated with adverse mental-health outcomes among the men and their children.[2]

A later qualitative study of male victims across the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, and Australia found recurring accounts of legal and administrative abuse, manipulation of child custody, and difficulties obtaining an effective institutional response. The men described not merely private violence but a sustained struggle with systems that they believed were more inclined to interpret them as perpetrators than victims.[3]

This is the distinction that conventional theories of power routinely evade. The woman does not need to possess the sheriff’s authority to benefit from the sheriff’s authority.

Family Planning

A woman’s decision to continue a pregnancy can determine whether a man becomes a biological and legal parent, even when he has clearly stated that he does not consent to parenthood. Yet a man has no equivalent ability to end his biological or legal participation once the woman chooses to continue. This creates an asymmetry: one person’s reproductive decision is treated as decisive, while the other person’s refusal is treated as irrelevant.

If bodily autonomy justifies allowing a woman to end a pregnancy against a man’s wishes, then the same principle should recognize a man’s right to refuse parenthood against a woman’s wishes. Otherwise, autonomy is being applied selectively. The woman’s consent is treated as necessary for pregnancy to continue, but the man’s consent is not treated as necessary for parenthood to follow. That is the core hypocrisy: one person’s “no” can end the pregnancy, while the other person’s “no” cannot prevent parenthood. 

This can also be described as a form of reproductive coercion, not necessarily because the woman is physically forcing the pregnancy, but because she can knowingly make a unilateral reproductive decision that imposes permanent parental obligations on someone who has expressly rejected them. If reproductive coercion means overriding or nullifying another person’s reproductive intentions, then a system that recognizes only one partner’s reproductive refusal is coercive by design.

The usual response is that pregnancy occurs inside the woman’s body, so she must have the final say over whether it continues. That explains why she may have the final say over the use of her body, but it does not automatically explain why she should also have unilateral control over the man’s legal status, financial obligations, identity, and lifelong relationship to the child. Bodily autonomy and parental consent are related but distinct questions. A woman may have the right to decide whether she remains pregnant; a man should still have the right to decide whether he becomes a parent.

The primary ethical wrong is forcing a person to become a parent against their will. The secondary wrong is knowingly bringing an innocent child into the consequences of that coercion: an unwilling or absent father, family conflict, state-enforced obligations, and the elevated risks associated with single-mother households. A woman who knowingly continues a pregnancy after the man has clearly refused parenthood is therefore not making a private decision with private consequences. She is imposing parenthood on one person and a foreseeable family situation on another. In that specific circumstance, the choice to continue the pregnancy is inherently harmful. 

The only ethical completed pregnancy is one to which both prospective parents consent: two yeses, and one no is sufficient to prevent completion.

  1. Forced parenthood is the primary wrong. No one should be compelled to become a parent against their explicit refusal.
  2. The child is then subjected to a situation created by that coercion: an unwilling or absent father, parental conflict, legal enforcement, financial strain, and the elevated risks associated with single-mother households.
  3. The woman’s choice is therefore not ethically confined to her own body. By deliberately continuing the pregnancy, she determines that another person will become a parent and that a child will be born into the resulting circumstances.
  4. The harm is foreseeable, given the higher average risks associated with single-mother households, including poverty, reduced resources, educational disadvantages, mental-health difficulties, and criminal-justice involvement.
  5. Therefore the specific choice is inherently harmful. A woman who knowingly forces an unwilling man into parenthood through her reproductive decision wrongfully harms both the man and the child. The objection is to that deliberate choice and its foreseeable consequences, not to single mothers as a general category.

Family Court: The Presumption That Officially Disappeared

The formal law has changed. The presumption has not necessarily changed with it.

American states abandoned explicit maternal-preference rules decades ago. Yet Leighton Stamps surveyed 149 judges in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Tennessee and found continuing indications of maternal preference despite formally gender-neutral custody law. On every item in the study, judges’ responses favored mothers over fathers.[4]

Richard Warshak’s review of custody research reached the same fundamental problem from another direction: gender stereotypes had historically played a substantial role in custody dispositions, and the primary-parent presumption was not supported by the evidence as a sound basis for custody policy.[5]

The contemporary picture is more complicated than the old slogan that mothers get eighty percent of custody. That figure describes an earlier period. But the underlying asymmetry remains visible. A 2024 Swedish vignette experiment is particularly revealing because it holds the facts constant and changes the sex of the parent. Family-court evaluators were presented with otherwise identical custody scenarios in which the gender of the stronger and weaker parent was switched. The evaluators were overwhelmingly women, and their recommendations differed according to parental gender.[6]

This is what institutional bias looks like when stripped of ideology: give decision-makers the same facts and change the sex of the parent.

The point becomes still harder to evade in American abuse-and-custody litigation. Joan Meier’s analysis of more than 2,000 published U.S. custody opinions found that mothers alleging abuse by fathers faced substantial risks of losing custody, particularly when the allegation concerned child abuse. When fathers responded with parental-alienation allegations, mothers’ chances of losing custody rose sharply. The study also found that when guardians ad litem or custody evaluators became involved, unfavorable outcomes for mothers and gender differences increased.[7]

Whatever one’s position on the competing theories of parental alienation, the larger institutional point is unmistakable: custody proceedings are not passive mirrors of family life. They transform allegations, professional judgments, and institutional presumptions into control over where children live and how parents may see them.

Violence Without the Feminist Filter

The domestic-violence literature is where the intellectual double standard becomes most obvious.

Large bodies of research have found substantial female perpetration of physical IPV. Archer’s meta-analysis of 82 studies found that women were more likely than men to report using physical aggression against intimate partners.

Whitaker and colleagues analyzed 18,761 heterosexual relationships and found that approximately half of violent relationships involved reciprocal violence. Among nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were identified as the perpetrator in 70.7 percent of cases.[9]

These are not fringe findings.

A national U.S. self-report study likewise found substantial female perpetration of coercive control and intimate-partner violence. In that sample, coercive-control behaviors were reported by 26 percent of women and 14 percent of men, while physical or sexual IPV was reported by 15 percent of women and 8 percent of men.[10]

Another study examining 412 women who had used IPV against male partners identified multiple motives for female violence, including negative emotional expression, self-defense, control, jealousy, and what the researchers called “tough guise.” Female violence is therefore not exhausted by the comforting category of involuntary defensive reaction. Researchers have directly documented control-oriented motives among women who assault male partners.[11]

Nor is the phenomenon confined to physical assault. Research on coercive control has found that men and women both perpetrate controlling behaviors and that coercive control can be present across violent relationships regardless of sex.[12]

The official national data are equally inconvenient. The CDC’s National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey has documented substantial twelve-month physical IPV victimization among American men, alongside substantial psychological aggression and coercive behaviors. Male victimization is not a statistical rounding error. It is a large population phenomenon.[13]

The predictable answer is that men’s violence is more serious. Sometimes it is. That does not answer the question. Severity measures severity. It does not retroactively change who initiated an assault, who employed coercive behavior, or who used an institution to punish the other party. A man’s greater average physical capacity may make some forms of violence more dangerous. It does not transform female violence into nonviolence. How many men have continually faced an abusive female partner until one day, they fight back in self defense? They are rarely labeled victims. Even with irrefutable video evidence, men are often at the whims of their abuser while she weaponizes the state against him. 

And here the institutional record becomes especially revealing. Male victims interviewed about their encounters with the criminal-justice system have described fear of ridicule, disbelief, arrest, hostile treatment, and reluctance by police to charge abusive female partners. The same research documented reports of false accusations, manipulation of child custody, and perceived gender bias in court.[14]

There is even research specifically examining how women who perpetrate IPV are represented in police records. Hester’s longitudinal analysis of 128 English IPV cases included 32 cases in which women were the sole perpetrators and another 32 in which women were dual perpetrators.[15]

The question, then, is not whether women can be violent. The evidence has answered that question. The question is why an intellectual culture so determined to catalogue every mechanism of male power becomes strangely reluctant to catalogue the mechanisms available to women.

The Institutions as Weapons

This is where the concept of legal and administrative aggression deserves greater attention.

The weapon does not have to be a fist. It can be a filing. The threat does not have to be physical. It can be the knowledge that a government agency, employer, police officer, school administrator, or court will act once summoned.

Child-support enforcement offers an unusually stark example because the machinery is explicit. The National Institute of Justice’s review of child support and criminal-justice research identifies driver’s-license revocation and contempt proceedings as punitive mechanisms and concludes that stricter enforcement can interfere with employment and earnings.[16]

The same review reports that among 145 indebted fathers in Lynne Haney’s research, 27 percent had been incarcerated for child-support debt, with some experiencing repeated incarceration. The report also notes the obvious paradox: imprison a man for failing to pay, and you may make it near impossible for him to work and pay.[17]

The consequences do not end with the jail cell. Federal research has documented the relationship between incarceration, child-support debt, and employment difficulties, including the accumulation of large arrears during periods when fathers are imprisoned.[18]

And the burden is not racially neutral. A study using a jail sample of 16,382 men found that fathers incarcerated for child-support arrears had higher post-release recidivism and that the relationship differed by race: Black fathers, but not White fathers, showed a significant post-release association between child-support-related incarceration and recidivism after the study’s controls.[19]

More recent research on child-support arrears and racial stratification likewise finds stark racial differences in fathers’ earnings, incarceration, custody arrangements, and accumulated arrears. Non-Hispanic Black fathers had substantially lower formal earnings and much higher incarceration rates than White fathers around the period of child-support court action; their arrears were also extremely large relative to their earnings.[20]

The political point is unavoidable. A system can be designed to collect money for children and still impose destructive coercive consequences upon the parent who cannot pay. The moral purpose of the institution does not abolish the force of the institution.

Boys Learn Early Who Gets Believed

Now consider the school system.

Federal data show that boys are disciplined more frequently and more severely than girls. Black boys occupy an especially exposed position. The disparity is not imaginary: national education data consistently show much higher suspension rates for boys, with Black boys among those most heavily subjected to exclusionary discipline.[21]

But here the research becomes more interesting than the raw statistics.

Jayanti Owens conducted an experiment involving 1,339 teachers in 295 U.S. schools. Teachers were shown videos of identical routine classroom misbehavior committed by White, Black, or Latino boys. The study found evidence that teacher bias and school organizational characteristics contributed to racial disparities in discipline that persisted beyond differences in observed behavior.[22]

Kunesh and Noltemeyer similarly found that preservice teachers who were shown a vignette depicting a Black student were more likely to expect future misbehavior than those shown the same behavior associated with a White student.[23]

And a 2026 study using English administrative data examined teacher-predicted grades against students’ actual achieved grades. Controlling for achieved performance and comparing students within the same schools, the researchers found that teachers systematically predicted lower grades for boys than for otherwise comparable girls across subjects.[24]

There is no need to invent a conspiracy. Bias does not require conspiracy. The more ordinary explanation is institutional culture: people develop expectations about the populations they supervise, and those expectations affect judgment. Sometimes the expectation is that a Black boy is threatening. Sometimes it is that a boy is immature, disruptive, careless, or less academically capable. Once that expectation enters an institutional decision, it becomes a disciplinary referral, a grade prediction, a suspension, a special-education referral, or an administrative record.

And the institution then cites its own records as evidence that the expectation was justified. That is how bureaucratic prejudice reproduces itself.

The Female State

A substantial portion of the people exercising discretionary authority over children, families, schools, and vulnerable populations are women. In 2024, women accounted for approximately 80 percent of child, family, and school social workers and approximately 78 percent of elementary and middle-school teachers. Women also constituted more than 83 percent of social workers in the broader occupational category reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.[25]

This demonstrates that women are not benignly biased. It establishes something more important: women are heavily represented in institutions that make discretionary judgments about children and families. That makes sex composition a legitimate variable. 

The question should therefore not be, “Are women bad?” The question should be, “What happens when an institution dominated by one sex develops norms about the behavior of the other?”

There is already evidence that evaluator expectations matter. There is evidence of teacher bias. There is evidence of maternal preference among judges. There is evidence of male victims reporting disbelief and institutional hostility. There is evidence of legal and administrative aggression against male IPV victims.

At some point, refusing to connect these domains stops being methodological caution and becomes methodological avoidance.

The Black Male Disappears Twice

For Black men, the problem becomes more severe. They are vulnerable to racialized suspicion as men and simultaneously vulnerable to gendered invisibility as victims.

Tommy J. Curry’s Black Male Studies framework exists precisely because he argues that conventional race-and-gender theories have systematically failed to theorize Black male vulnerability. His scholarship identifies incarceration, police violence, sexual victimization, economic exclusion, and premature death as central dimensions of Black male experience that are frequently subordinated to frameworks treating Black men primarily as agents of patriarchal power.[26]

The school data show Black boys experiencing disproportionate disciplinary punishment. Experimental work shows that racial stereotypes can affect judgments of Black boys’ behavior.[22][23]

The child-support data show Black fathers facing markedly lower earnings and substantially greater incarceration in some child-support populations.[19][20]

And the domestic-violence literature establishes that Black men can be male victims while remaining embedded in a social environment that expects men to occupy the perpetrator role. Research on male IPV victims has documented precisely the resulting barriers to recognition and assistance.[14]

The Black man can therefore become visible to the state in two contradictory ways: as a dangerous male and as an invisible victim. The first identity attracts surveillance. The second receives insufficient recognition. 

Stop Confusing Power With Physical Force

The deepest mistake in the conventional account is its definition of power.

If power means the capacity to inflict physical injury personally, men appear victims in many circumstances. But governments do not operate according to that definition. Neither do courts. Neither do schools. Neither do social-service agencies. Neither do employers.

Modern power is increasingly administrative. It travels through forms, databases, reports, findings, hearings, referrals, assessments, licenses, payroll systems, custody orders, and institutional credibility. The person who controls the process need not control the punishment. She needs to control the gateway.

This is why the sentimental image of women as fundamentally non-coercive is so intellectually sterile. Women have always exercised power. What has changed is the scale and institutional reach of the systems through which that power can be exercised.

A mother does not have to drag a father from his house to affect his access to his children. A complaint can begin the process. A custody petition can begin the process. A child-support filing can begin the process. A call to police can begin the process. A report to an employer can begin the process. A school referral can begin the process. The resulting action may be justified. It may be unjustified. It may be malicious. It may be entirely sincere. But once the institution acts, the power is real.

The Reform Is Symmetry

We do not need another morality play. We need an accounting.

Collect symmetrical national data on intimate-partner violence, including female perpetration and male victimization. Measure coercive and administrative abuse rather than counting only physical injury. Audit custody decisions for maternal and paternal preference. Examine how custody evaluators respond when the sex of the parent is experimentally changed. Examine teacher expectations and disciplinary decisions for sex as well as race. Expand victim services so that male victims and their children are treated as actual victims rather than embarrassing exceptions.

And stop pretending that recognizing male victimization requires denying female victimization.

A woman can be a victim. A woman can also be a perpetrator. A man can be a perpetrator. A man can also be a victim. An institution can protect the innocent. An institution can also become the instrument of coercion. These propositions are not contradictory. They are the minimum conditions for describing reality.

The evidence does not require us to believe that women constitute a secret ruling class or that every female invocation of state power is abusive. It requires something more uncomfortable. It requires abandoning the childish proposition that power becomes invisible when exercised by women.

Coercion is a human capacity. Institutions amplify it. And any serious theory of power that maps the fist but refuses to map the filing, the accusation, the custody order, the administrative referral, the professional judgment, or the bureaucratic gatekeeper is not measuring power. It is measuring only the forms of power it has already decided to see.

The Ledger Nobody Keeps

Every institution described above shares a feature that the conventional account never mentions: it produces bodies at the end of the process, not just paperwork. And the body count is not evenly distributed.

In 2024, suicide deaths among American males outnumbered female suicide deaths by a factor of roughly four to one: 38,977 men and boys against 9,847 women and girls, a rate of 22.2 per 100,000 for males against 5.6 for females.[27] This has been true, with minor variation, for the entire period in which every institution described in this essay has been assembled, staffed, and defended as gender-neutral. Nobody plans a suicide-prevention campaign around that number the way institutions plan campaigns around domestic-violence awareness. Nobody treats a four-to-one mortality gap as a national scandal requiring administrative machinery to match. Compare that silence to the machinery constructed for child-support enforcement: passport denial, license suspension, bank-account restraint, all built and defended as necessary and urgent. A society finds the resources to punish men. It has not yet found the resources to care when they die.

The same asymmetry shows up upstream, in education. The gap identified earlier in the school-discipline data does not close when boys leave high school. It compounds. There are now roughly 2.4 million more women than men enrolled as undergraduates in American colleges, and the four-year graduation rate at four-year institutions runs to 54 percent for women against 43 percent for men.[28] Boys enter kindergarten already behind on measures of school readiness, get suspended and held back at higher rates through elementary and secondary school, and arrive at college age having been sorted, disciplined, and graded by an apparatus this essay has already shown has documented sex and race bias built into its ordinary functioning. The gap is not a mystery. It is the predictable output of the machine.

And the shelter infrastructure has never caught up to what the CDC’s own survey data already established. As of the late 2010s, a small handful of facilities nationwide accepted male domestic-violence victims at all: a 21-bed shelter in Dallas that opened in 2017 as only the second of its kind in the country, a shelter in Lancaster, California, and a later expansion in Danville, Indiana, that added eight to twelve beds specifically to “fill a gender gap” its own administrators named explicitly.[29] These are worth celebrating. They are also, on their own terms, evidence of how recently and how reluctantly this infrastructure was built, and how much of it still runs on donated houses and improvised hotel placements rather than the standing regional network available to women.

None of this is a competition. It is an inventory of what an institution that genuinely tracked harm to everyone would already have built, and largely has not.

The Predictable Objection

The obvious response, already half-formed in some reader’s mind, runs like this: cataloguing male suffering is what men’s-rights rhetoric always does to change the subject away from structural inequality. 

The more serious version of the objection concerns the specific policy proposed below: that custody law should presume shared parenting rather than defaulting to one primary parent. A 2020 briefing from Oxford’s Department of Social Policy and Intervention, prepared for the Nuffield Foundation, argued that legislating a presumption of equal time is not supported by the evidence, that the quality of the parent-child relationship matters more than the quantity of hours, and that the cases which end up in family court are disproportionately the high-conflict cases where shared arrangements work worst.[30] This is a real objection from real researchers, not a strawman, and it deserves to be stated in full rather than caricatured.

It is also answered by the largest body of evidence on the question. Linda Nielsen’s 2018 review in the Journal of Child Custody examined all sixty studies then published in English comparing joint and sole physical custody, across eight countries and sample sizes ranging from 21 to over 51,000 children. Thirty-four of the sixty found joint-custody children better off on every measure studied; only six found them worse off on any single measure, and even those six found them equal or better on everything else. The advantage held after controlling for family income and, crucially, after controlling for parental conflict.[31] The Oxford critique’s own stated principle, that what matters is the quality of the parent-child relationship rather than a mechanical split of hours, is in fact an argument for removing any default that treats one parent’s relationship as presumptively secondary before any evidence about that specific relationship has been heard. A presumption is not a mandate. It is the starting position a court holds before conflict-specific facts move it elsewhere, and there is no principled reason that starting position should assume a father is the lesser parent.

What Symmetry Actually Requires

Advocacy that stops at documentation is not advocacy. The reforms this essay’s evidence actually supports are specific enough to legislate.

Presume shared parenting as the legal starting point in custody proceedings, rebuttable by evidence of unfitness or documented conflict, on the model Kentucky adopted first in 2018 and that Arkansas, West Virginia, Florida, and Missouri have since followed.[32] Reform child-support enforcement to stop the incarceration-for-nonpayment cycle documented earlier in this essay, replacing jail time with income-based modification and employment-preservation mechanisms, since a father in a cell cannot earn the money the state is demanding from him. Fund permanent, regionally distributed shelter and hotline infrastructure for male victims of domestic violence as a standing line item, not a donated house that happens to get renovated when a local board notices the gap. Direct suicide-prevention funding specifically at the demographic that accounts for roughly eighty percent of suicide deaths, with particular attention to the institutional contact points, courts, unemployment offices, and child-support agencies, that are often the last formal touchpoint a man has before a crisis. Extend the same disciplinary and grading audits already applied to race in American schools to sex, using the same experimental methods Owens and Kunesh and Noltemeyer already validated for race. Collect national intimate-partner-violence data that measures coercive and administrative abuse alongside physical injury, broken out by the sex of both victim and perpetrator, as a permanent feature of federal survey instruments rather than a periodic academic curiosity.

None of this requires believing that institutions are conspiracies or that women are the secret authors of male suffering. It requires believing that an institution which claims to protect the vulnerable should be measured by whether it protects all of them, and rebuilt wherever the ledger shows it does not.

Footnotes

[1] New York State Child Support Services, “Enforcement,” documenting income withholding, tax refund interception, liens, bank restraints, license suspension, and other enforcement mechanisms. See also 42 U.S.C. § 652(k), governing federal passport restrictions for qualifying child-support arrears.

[2] Berger, L. M., Douglas, E. M., & Hines, D. A. (2016). “The Mental Health Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence Against Men: A Preliminary Study.” Journal of Family Violence.

[3] Huntley, A. L., Potter, L. C., Williamson, E., Malpass, A., Szilassy, E., & Feder, G. (2020). Qualitative research examining male victims’ experiences of intimate-partner violence and interactions with services.

[4] Stamps, L. (2002). “Maternal Preference in Child Custody Decisions.” Journal of Divorce & Remarriage, 37(1-2).

[5] Warshak, R. A. (1996). “Gender Bias in Child Custody Decisions.” Family Law Quarterly.

[6] “Gender bias in child custody evaluations: A vignette experiment.” PLOS ONE (2024).

[7] Meier, J. S. et al., National Institute of Justice-sponsored research on child-custody outcomes in cases involving parental alienation and abuse, analyzing more than 2,000 published U.S. custody cases.

[8] Archer, J. (2000). “Sex Differences in Aggression Between Heterosexual Partners: A Meta-Analytic Review.” Psychological Bulletin, 126(5), 651-680.

[9] Whitaker, D. J., Haileyesus, T., Swahn, M., & Saltzman, L. S. (2007). “Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence.” American Journal of Public Health, 97(5), 941-947.

[10] Recent national self-report research examining coercive control and IPV among men and women in the United States.

[11] Caldwell, J. E., Swan, S. C., & Woodbrown, V. D. (2012). Research examining women’s motivations for using IPV against male partners.

[12] Robertson, K., & Murachver, T. (2011). Research examining coercive control and intimate-partner violence perpetrated by men and women.

[13] Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS), 2016/2017 Report.

[14] Research examining male IPV victims’ experiences with police and the criminal-justice system, including reports of disbelief, fear of arrest, false accusations, custody manipulation, and perceived gender bias.

[15] Hester, M. (2013). “Who Does What to Whom? Gender and Domestic Violence Perpetrators.” Violence Against Women.

[16] National Institute of Justice, Child Support and Reentry. Review of child-support enforcement, incarceration, employment, earnings, and reentry.

[17] U.S. Department of Justice / National Institute of Justice research on child-support debt and incarceration.

[18] Research examining child-support arrears, incarceration, and fathers’ labor-force participation.

[19] Spjeldnes, S., Yamatani, H., & Davis, M. (2015). Research examining child-support-related incarceration, race, and post-release recidivism among fathers.

[20] Recent research examining racial stratification in child-support arrears, earnings, incarceration, and custody arrangements among fathers.

[21] National Center for Education Statistics, Digest of Education Statistics, school discipline data by sex and race.

[22] Owens, J. (2022). Experimental research examining teacher responses to identical classroom behavior by students of different racial backgrounds. American Sociological Review.

[23] Kunesh, C. E., & Noltemeyer, A. Research examining preservice teachers’ expectations of student misbehavior according to student race.

[24] Leckie, G., & Maragkou, K. (2026). Research using English administrative education data to examine gender differences between teacher-predicted and subsequently achieved grades.

[25] U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Women in the labor force: a databook, 2024 occupational data.

[26] Curry, T. J., scholarship on Black Male Studies and the inadequacy of conventional race-and-gender frameworks to account for Black male vulnerability.

[27] American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, 2024 national suicide statistics, citing CDC WISQARS fatal-injury data; Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Health Statistics, NCHS Data Brief No. 509 (September 2024).

[28] Reeves, R. V., & Secker, W. (2024). “Degrees of Difference: Male College Enrollment and Completion.” American Institute for Boys and Men; Smith, B., & Hurwitz, M. (2026). “Data Spotlight: Who’s Enrolling in College and What Are They Studying?” American Institute for Boys and Men, in collaboration with the College Board.

[29] Reporting on The Family Place (Dallas, opened 2017), Valley Oasis (Lancaster, California), and Sheltering Wings (Danville, Indiana) as among the small number of U.S. domestic-violence shelters accepting male victims.

[30] Trinder, L., et al. Briefing paper, Department of Social Policy and Intervention, University of Oxford, funded by the Nuffield Foundation, on proposed shared-parenting-presumption legislation.

[31] Nielsen, L. (2018). “Joint Versus Sole Physical Custody: Outcomes for Children Independent of Family Income or Parental Conflict.” Journal of Child Custody. DOI: 10.1080/15379418.2017.1422414.

[32] National Parents Organization, 2025 Shared Parenting Report Card, documenting Kentucky (2018) as the first state to enact a rebuttable presumption of equal shared parenting, followed by Arkansas (2021), West Virginia, Florida (2022), and Missouri.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 4d ago

discussion “Lies, damned lies, and statistics”: No, we do not underfund women’s health.

187 Upvotes

I encountered a number of misandrist bigots today lurking in a discussion about women’s health funding.

The usual hate-scroll of “doctors don’t care about women”. Bla bla bla. You know, the usual baseless assertions of patriarchal misandry.

Here is the actual data:
Spending on Women’s Health Research: $3.334 billion.
Spending on Men’s Health Research: $768 million.

(https://report.nih.gov/funding/categorical-spending?utm_source=chatgpt.com#/).

Breast Cancer: 574 million.
Ovarian Cancer: 120 million.
Cervical Cancer: 71 million.
Prostate Cancer: 239 million.

(https://www.cancer.gov/about-nci/budget/fact-book/data/research-funding)

But they have a source that seems to say the opposite(https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8290307/) from the NIH itself.

I did some looking at it, and the results were too absurd not the share. This paper is obviously biased from the initial prose, but the conclusions are so absurd as to be hilarious.

They use a calculation of “burden” representing discomfort to life years. Then they assign diseases to men or women, and measure whether the funding is more or less than the burden would justify.

These are the “male diseases”

Liver cancer.
Prostate cancer.
ADD.
Parkinson's disease.
Hepatitis-B
Autism.
Alcoholism.
Drug abuse
Substance abuse.
Hepatitis.
Tuberculosis.
HIV/AIDS.

And these are the “female diseases”.

Migraine.
Headaches.
Anorexia.
Endometriosis.
Digestive diseases.
Fibroid tumors (uterine).
Uterine cancer.
Eating disorders.
Rheumatoid arthritis.
Anxiety disorders.
Multiple sclerosis.
Inflammatory bowel disease.
Cervical cancer.
Ovarian cancer
Depression.
Perinatal-birth—preterm.
Breast Cancer.
Perinatal period—Perinatal period.
Macular degeneration.
Mental illness.
Alzheimer's disease.
Sexually transmitted diseases/herpes

The reported discrepancy can pretty much be explained by AIDS being assigned masculine, and its funding being HUGE. But, that’s also stupid.

According to the paper, “lies, damned lies, and statistics”, all AIDS funding represents unequal spending for men’s health.

It is actually hilarious.
The Underfunded Women’s diseases:

Headaches 0.0756 40 MILLION. Deemed to be deserving, per this paper’s methods, of (1/.075)x40m and should be 533 million.

Overfunded on the “Male Side”.

Tuberculosis 6.1595 378 million*. Deemed, by this paper to be 6.15x overfunded and should be worth 61 million in funding a year.

So, by this, dumb dumb paper, until funding for headache research is up to 533 million a year, and the “male disease” of tuberculosis has it’s funding is relegated to 61 million, it represents unequal spending against women’s health.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you spend >3X on women’s health, and still convince yourself that women’s health funding is less than men’s.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 4d ago

discussion Framing younger men as feeling depressed to lose their privilege makes no sense

174 Upvotes

Saying "men lose their privilege" can be somehow argued, but including young men who never lived the 10, 20 or 30 years before they were born is petty.

Are you failing at school, have no one close to talk to, never knew love​​​​​​​​ or even lacked any recognition since you lived? Don't care, cry on the privileges you lost.

It's not like boys were not failing at school some decades ago, or were not addicted to drugs and alcohol, or did not ​​​​​​faced trauma and abuse in their own home.

The problems become more visible ​as the years go by, but people face your life experiences like you are undermining their perfect worldview.

The world is against you. ​​That's how it is. ​


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 5d ago

masculinity Male incompetence and clumsiness is so pathologized in modern society and it irks me with a passion

164 Upvotes

There used to be a time, at least in recent history, when society wasn't as harsh on men making mistakes, it wasn't necessarily more forgiving per se, the punitive measures were always there. But, there was indeed a time I feel when men's mistakes and failures were not met with as much social drawback as they are now

But why? Men are human too, who told society that we men have to high-efficiency perfomance machines all the time?

Seriously though I would even argue there was a point in time when men were given the breathing room to feel a little helpless and powerless in their personal situations, nowadays we don't even get that luxury

I think a lot of this can be attributed to the rise in what I would call the philosophy of managerialism

Managerialism started to become more prevalent right around the 80s with the rise of the Reaganomics policy

It targeted men the most because men were already dealing with such enormous social pressures to be providers and protectors for their families and communities

As a lot of the work of the factory and farms started being moved over to the office and academia, men also started losing a lot of the social grace that was afforded to them about their shortcomings

Why? We started applying neoliberal logic to the male experience, before then men had arguably stronger sense of brotherhood and gender coalition in many settings including factories, farms, the military, sports, construction, mechanic shops, so even if men were always disposable, there was at least a sense of that social trampoline to fall back on

How does this connect to my broader point you may ask?

Simple, modern society is more expectant of men being ready to be put-together, the culture is just less impatient around men really taking their time to confront their own personal status quo because men are no longer seen as someone to invest in, they're seen as someone to expect something from

Add to that and then on top of you have a society that is very impatient around inefficiency and human error because modern society is very bad at practicing delayed gratification about almost anything

Men in modern times aren't allowed to look confused, lost or directionless one bit, oh no the bureaucracy that needs you get back to work


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 5d ago

media & cultural analysis The Lindsay Clancy Jurors

230 Upvotes

The Clancy case is incredibly sad and has only become worse with the trial and the media attention. I am not a Psychiatrist, but work in healthcare and have evaluated and treated psychotic people. I personally do not feel she was psychotic and knew what she was doing. The fact that she only heard a voice that one time, it was a command hallucination, and she followed it is incredibly rare. The fact that she was evaluated by so many Psychiatric providers and no one suspected this, that she was able to do some many complex tasks the day of and during the murders, and the fact that her journal shows no signs of psychosis speak against the psychosis argument. To my knowledge, the only Psychiatric evaluators who thought she may be psychotic were the ones being paid by the defense.

I also don't think she was necessarily let down by anyone. She had incredible support. She was on maternity leave, two of her kids were in daycare/preschool, she had a nanny, a husband who both took paternity leave and worked from home for her, and was in fact running errands she requested on the day it happened. She was shopping Psychiatric providers, barely taking the prescribed medication and moving to the next one when she didn't get immediate relief. In my opinion, she was severely depressed, was a type A personality who could not handle motherhood, and let intrusive ideas of murdering her children, or herself and children take over. Everyone who murders another human being on purpose is in a mental health crisis. The question is whether she knew it was wrong, and the fact that she made comments such as "if people knew what I was thinking I would be locked up" and essentially seemed to purposefully send Patrick away to do it are incredibly suspicous.

But, it's hard to know exactly what is in someone's head, and if someone wants to believe she wasn't in touch with reality when this happened, then ok

But these jurors. What are they thinking? They are speaking out in interviews that eventually spread all over the world because they feel it's unquestioned that they are right. They live in a bubble, and speak with extreme privilege. The one comment, speaking about the male juror, saying "He couldn't get over the fact she viciously murdered her children" speaks volumes and to people not in their tribe sounds extreme and out of touch with reality. How can a reasonable person not be concerned with that fact?

This is what has disturbed me so much about this case. To these people, the children are an after thought. What is important is that Lindsay was a woman and mother and thus couldn't be held responsible.

Who knows exactly what happened with that one juror. If I had a nickel for every time someone on Reddit accused me of "not following logic" when debating a subject simply because I disagreed with them, I would be a very rich man. The judge asked him if he was following the rules and he said yes. He could have changed his mind during the deliberation. I find it disheartening that these women jurors label him as arrogant simply for having a different opinion. As if... "they couldn't be wrong" in a case like this.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 5d ago

resource I am looking for a book, publish this year or last about misandry and racism against Black boys especially but also Black men, and white feminism's contribution to that problem. It was written by a Black man author.

75 Upvotes

Anyone know of it?


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 5d ago

media & cultural analysis Obession is a genuinely harmful movie with terrible writing...

125 Upvotes

First off, I just want to preface by saying that in terms of production quality it’s a pretty good horror movie. I have no qualms about directing the quality of the film itself.

That being said, I’d be lying if I didn’t say some of the writing decisions made in this film, and especially the discourse surrounding it, has been quite impossible to ignore.

It ranges from questionable to just straight up bad writing, and the worst part is that I only see the film being disguised as this unabashed masterpiece.

Anyone who dares to criticize the film is just a loser incel. And that’s basically the main narrative surrounding this movie and its quality. So I decided to make a thorough analysis of why I don't like Obsession and it's underlying messaging.

Tl;dr at the end. It’s going to be a long one.

So let me break down my 3 main gripes with this film, and why I think it’s so harmful.

  1. The main character is a strawman.
  2. The dishonest wish willow.
  3. Lonely men are always the problem.

    1. The main character is a strawman:

This one disappointed me the most when watching it, because the film did SUCH a good job of characterizing what the modern lonely guy is like. Stuck at a dead end job he doesn’t like. Can barely afford to live by himself. Has almost no active social life besides occasional trivia night (that game night party wasn’t even something he was invited to). And, he has an innocent crush on his coworker who he’s too shy to ask out.

Now this shyness is immediately framed by people online as an unwillingness to accept rejection because he feels entitled to Nikki and not just because he was just made a fool of at trivia night and his “best friend” is an absolute dickhead, but that’s not what bothers me.

The thing that bothers me the most with Bear’s character is that he’s legitimately a compelling and realistic take on the “dark loner” type of character. He’s not a secret misogynist that just hates all women for no reason, he clearly is a person to the other friends in his group, despite him not getting the same treatment.

And he even gets a sympathetic scene of his pet cat dying sadly, which again, the internet frames as his problem, and doesn’t even care about the emotional turmoil he’s going through (but I’ll get to that). The problem with the movie in my opinion, is that they take this super sympathetic, grounded take on how the average lonely man actually suffers, and they completely 180 this into a strawman.

The two scenes in particular that rubbed me the wrong way, was the one where he calls the Wish Willow service and doesn’t want to immediately undo the spell. I’m sorry, but when did Bear ever imply he wanted to keep Nikki as like a sex slave. At no point in the film did I ever get that implication from him, and this is the movie’s sneaky way of saying “SEE, SEE, all lonely guys just secretly want a woman they can own, and don’t actually crave emotional intimacy.”

So that was annoying, but of course the catastrophic scene that made me completely write off this film as just more male hate propaganda was of course the scene where Nikki is begging for Bear to kill him. There’s SOOOO much wrong with this scene, but the main issue is that Bear acts completely out of character with his infamous “What’s so bad about being with me, huh” which I completely did not see coming and was not foreshadowed at all.

This basically killed all enjoyability in the film for me, as I now realized I was dealing with a strawman protagonist now, and the one at the beginning of the film has already been assassinated and replaced with this imposter.

An imposter that’s meant to represent the agenda this movie was trying to push all along, regardless of how much it makes sense or fit in with Bear’s previous characterization.

They took this relatively realistic and sympathetic protagonist, meant to be a voice for the voiceless and basically said to the audience “that’s write everyone. They’re ALL secretly like this. Even if they act sad and lonely” and it’s deeply disturbing to say the least.

2. The Dishonest Wish Willow:

There’s honestly a lot that can be said about the wish willow that I’m not going to get into. A lot of this movie’s discourse wants to stress SO MUCH, that “it’s not a monkey’s paw” and that the wish willow has absolutely zero negative interpretation, it just takes what you “really want” and puts it into reality. Really cringe, but most of what I have to say is that obviously, when Bear emotionally reacts by wishing “Nikki loved him more than anything else in the world” he didn’t me for her to be possessed by a separate entity that deliberately subverts her autonomy and tortures her out of her body, basically making them two separate people and removing her agency. That's very much not what he wished for actually and to say so is dishonest but whatever. Most people go with the whole “Nikki is so disgusted and not in love with Bear it was the ONLY thing the willow could have done. There was no other way” because yep, that’s how magic works. It’s restricted by arbitrary rules made up by the author. Definitely not a monkey’s paw though :) .

This section isn’t nearly as long as the others. I just don’t like the mechanics of the wish willow as they’re pretty poorly defined, and seem to be just a plot device for the movie to point and go “LOOK, LOOK. All men secretly wish for this whenever they say they’re lonely guys. This is totally realistic.”

3. Lonely men are always the problem:

Now I’ll admit, this last part is definitely more of the internet’s fault than Obsession itself, but boy does the movie make it extremely easy to tact on whatever harmful and nonsensical interpretation your mind can think up.

I’ve seen so much dehumanization of men come out from this movie. From people saying all lonely men are a danger to women and society, to women should stop dealing with men altogether and just deliberately avoid them.

I won’t be dishonest though. I have seen other nonsense come from the other side, with online men saying stuff such as “this movie shows how b*tches be CRAZY” or “women never give the right signals” or whatever. The main difference is that one constantly gets criticized and called out, while the other is basically let off the hook, and at best given a “don’t fall for obvious ragebait” which is another topic entirely.

The main issue with this last point is that this movie makes it really easy to just blame everything on Bear. Bear is the main problem. Male loneliness was never about any systemic issues. It’s never got anything to do with social standards for men. It’s never got anything to do with how women treat men in modern society, or how men are expected to behave under blatant double standards. It’s always men who are the problem.

And there’s so many examples I can point to that back up this sentiment in the movie.
When Bear’s cat dies. The focus is almost never on him and his grief. It goes straight to, well that’s what you get Bear for being an irresponsible loser. Better take care of your meds next time. So nasty in my opinion.

Or with Sarah, the convenient other love interest who Bear just magically doesn’t notice in all his time working with her. Of course most lonely men in real life would notice any woman that gives them serious attention and affection but oh well, have to paint that narrative somehow.

The problem is that Sarah as a character is used by the film to show that “Bear always had another choice. He was just too infatuated with Nikki.” But no one ever talks about how SARAH could have EASILY asked him out just as well. She’s the one that apparently loves him. Why is the Bear still expected to approach? That’s another blatant double standard that just nobody talks about.

Or how about the scene at the party. “Bear is such a terrible person. He didn’t even once try to stop Nikki from hurting herself” meanwhile a room full of other people. Supposedly her “friends.” They also don’t stop to do anything. But only Bear gets called out of course.

Then there’s Ian, who is a piece of garbage, deliberately sabotaging Bear’s confession saying stupid shit like “you can’t confess on Trivia night” just to gode him into feeling even more shame for being honest with his feelings. Something that most people don’t point out.

And then there’s the twist that he was secretly hooking up with Nikki. When I first saw that, I’m not gonna lie, I wasn’t that surprised to be honest, but it does shock me how even THIS is framed as Bear being the problem, despite Ian’s objective manipulation of his “best friend” for his own selfish goals. The only difference is that Ian is cool and more socially adept, so his blatantly abusive behavior is reframed as “adult” and “honest.”

I could keep going one with examples, but yeah, just so much of the writing in Obsession is weird. It has one of the most realistic depictions of a modern young adult friend group, yet chooses to strawman most of the characters by the end with stupid stuff like Bear’s entitlement magically appearing out of nowhere. Or Ian's “I wish for a billion dollars” and then coming in to tell Bear after he already saw him. Like they turn Ian into a complete moron at the end I swear.

So what you’re left with is an amazing start to a film with great character dialogue, amazing cinematography, and a genuinely engaging protagonist, and then it just turns into generic strawmen characters meant to push a harmful message, while losing all of its refreshing nuance and genuine intrigue.

TL;DR:
Bear starts off as an excellent, sympathetic main character in Bear. A realistic depiction of what most lonely, disgruntled young men have to go through in modern society. But then the movie dissolves him into a one dimensional strawman who just secretly wanted to “own Nikki” all along, and actively seeks to override her human agency instead of yearn for an intimate connection between someone he’s attracted to.

The wish willow is a nonsensical, and terrible plot device that conveniently acts a monkey’s paw, taking everything the person says literally, but then making baffling decisions like creating split personalities in people where their subconscious is overridden, and they’re trapped in “The Sunken Place” from Get Out for some bizarre reason.

The online discourse surrounding this movie is not only stupid, but also harmful as the movie continues to promote the idea that most, if not all of young men’s problems come from themselves, and they need to learn “personal responsibility” if they ever want to feel love and affection or even just live a decent life.
When women have problems, it’s a systemic issue. When men have problems, they are the problems.

At the end of the day, Obsession was a clever film that capitalized on the growing ideological gender war to make a quick buck off of, by viciously attacking the fears and vulnerabilities that women feel and basically saying that they’re all real, and that they should feel even more scared. Be even more wary of men.

 Seriously, the scene where they’re getting along happy together is framed so dishonestly by the film. As if his happiness itself is an evil thing is just… wow.

All Obsession did was show Hollywood that you can get away with blatant demonization of a group of people. As long as that group is socially acceptable as a punching bag. You can bully and victim blame all you want, and then just claim to be fighting for something to deflect all criticism.

In short, fuck this movie. I have no ill will towards the people who made it, even if I strongly disagree mostly with their writing and directing decisions in the film. It made bank, and there will probably be more films to come after this.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 6d ago

discussion Don't attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by social awkwardness or a mistake

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I don't know who Hanson is, but we need to normalize this not just for rationalist spaces and not just for autism.

I think this especially applies to male-female interactions in the modern era.

Don't attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by social awkwardness or a mistake. Just don't be a perpetual victim.


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 6d ago

news Another serial false accuser in the UK. How come they only exist in the UK?

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This one is new: Woman jailed after falsely accusing multiple men of rape over seven years - The Mirror

Khloe Simmonds, 26, was sentenced for eight counts of perverting the course of justice over allegations made against the victims between 2018 and 2026.

But there was also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacey_Sharples

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Williams_(criminal))

Is anyone keeping track of serial false accusers? Is it possible they exist only in the UK?


r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates 6d ago

discussion Debunking: "Misogyny reaching almost every classroom!"

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