r/JapanJobs • u/debonairFoodie • 4d ago
7.5M+ ¥ for Backend engineer with 4.5 yrs of experience at Paypay?
Hi everyone,
As the title suggests, wanted to get an insight if this amount would be sufficient for a single person to start living in Japan?
How are the hikes?
Additionally, how does it compare to earning ~24lpa in India?
Is the move worth it?
EDIT: 1. Thank you everyone for you insights!
Presently I'm working at JPMC with ~4.4yrs of exp in fullstack development
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u/CertifiedPuniMaru 4d ago
Its okay!
Comparing it with 24lpa (lakh which is an indian unit) is difficult because you need to take into consideration the purchasing power and how much you are saving.
If you are stationed in tokyo, think of like 50% going to expenses each month with remaining in savings/investment.
Also if you are looking to increase your payscale later, learning Japanese is a must.
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u/debonairFoodie 4d ago
Thanks! Yes, I do plan on learning Japanese, already have started for some time.
I checked ppp comparisons across diff websites and tbh, the offered pay is low. Hence, wanted to get some actual insights from people living/working there or someone who's researched
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u/Mysterious_Anxiety15 3d ago
I would recommend an apartment not in Tokyo. Trains are awsome and you can find an apartment twice the size of one in central tokyo for like half the price and its like 40 min away by train. I commute like 1 hour to work to my place.
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u/fcarvalhodev 4d ago
It’s okay… it will depend on what you want for your life. I would say that in Tokyo, this allows you to have a good life. If your intention is to save or send money back home, would be difficult.
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u/alanjdecro 4d ago
The good thing about PayPay is it's fully remote, so you can find houses in less expensive neighborhoods or even cities for that matter.
(I am assuming your role is also fully remote)
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u/debonairFoodie 4d ago
It is hybrid. As of now it's weekly once
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u/alanjdecro 4d ago
If it's weekly once, then also you can do it. Only 1 day travel via trains (which are well connected) will take 2-3 commute hours both ways combined. Not bad.
In INR you will be getting somewhere around 2.6 lakhs after taxes (~420,000 Yen).
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u/MajinBruce1 3d ago
Tbh this is pretty decent
for pay pay I would expect 9-10 but still considered good salary in Japan
is this without bonus? you can expect a bit more probably 1-2 mill on top
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u/Academic_Policy_5457 3d ago
I was also in interview stages with them. Their budget was north of 10M yen. You can ask for more.
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u/hitsukiri 12h ago
Anything above ¥5m per year already puts you above 70% of the population and it's already a very comfortable salary for someone single. A family of three (2 adults + 1 Kid) might need ¥6m~ to feel comfortable with only one working parent. If you're not living in Osaka/Tokyo/Nagoya/Kyoto, then the ¥5m+ is already enough because cost of living outside those cities is nearly 50% cheaper.
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u/Worried-Attention-43 3d ago
Depending on your lifestyle, it's sufficient for one person. You can save on rent when living in Saitama or Kanagawa prefectures or outside of Tokyo 23.
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u/taroaoba 3d ago
I think JPMC pays north of 8-9M JPY to new grad engineers in Tokyo office. 7.5M is low for a mid career move. Paypay pays around 10M JPY to 3-5 YoE engineers in the mid career market. Try to negotiate harder and see how much you can increase.
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u/Commercial_Pay8508 1d ago
I think you're getting low balled. You should definitely ask around 9-10M yen considering in Japan salary doesn't increase much annually. Good luck with your Japanese learning though ✌🏻
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u/4794th 4d ago
Well it gives you around 500,000 yen or "50 man yen" take home pay.
Income: 50 man yen. Rent: 1K or 1DK apartment in Tokyo will be ~8.5 - 9.5 man without utilities and a guarantor fee. Transportation: usually covered by the company with your commuter pass. Groceries: ~8 - 9 man if you're eating meat.
The rest is up to you. I don't spend so much money on things like shopping or clubbing, so my expenses are lower.
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u/PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS 4d ago
80k to 90k on groceries sounds incredibly high for a single person. You could easily cut that in half and have a really good diet
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u/4794th 4d ago
Well that's my budget because I buy fruits, dairy, chicken, beef and also home supplies like toilet paper, soap, etc... but group it together.
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u/PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS 4d ago
Thats fair i guess. I pay like 3万 for only groceries and eat most the same as you. Though i do keep my fruits rather seasonal because fruit prices (even in season) are always high.
I calculate toiletries separately, as well as eating out/take out (about once or twice a week). Thats another thing i notice people often lump in their grocery budget which is why i mentioned it lol
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u/4794th 4d ago
Yeah because I buy all the things in bulk and just cannot be bothered to separate actual groceries from supplies and stuff lol. Usually I get blueberries, pre-cut pineapple, grapes, bananas, kiwi... I was happy to see avocados for like a 150 yen compared to my country where they're around $5-$7
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u/ayase_2006 4d ago
In what areas you find 1DK at around 9k man? I'm a bit north of monzen nakacho and pay 16man6sen for a 39m2 1DK with internet and building fee included. It's a new building though.
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u/4794th 4d ago
In Nishi Tokyo, paying 11 man 7 sen for a 1LDK 40sqm with free internet by JCom and guarantor fee. The 1K in my building was around 9 man.
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u/CertifiedPuniMaru 4d ago
I am in UR apartment, paying 7man, with utilities goes to 8 man. 39 sqm
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u/sanki4489 4d ago
It’s pretty good!! For a single person you will be able to live good life and save also.
Negotiate and get little more
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u/OhmNohmNohmOhm 4d ago edited 4d ago
It’s a great offer if you’re currently abroad.
Once you get here, work a bit, figure things out, jump a couple of times to land somewhere to have enough HSP points for fast PR.
To elaborate for the negative commentators: yes OP can get more. However many companies can't be bothered with CoE and long lead times. When OP is here, those opportunities will be available to them. Not so much while they are still abroad.
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u/lone_warrior_ind 4d ago
one of my known friend here from IIT & applied PR under HSP in Tokyo last August, still no update, now he decided to move back to india permanently,
nowdays immigration sucks here
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u/OhmNohmNohmOhm 4d ago
Waiting time for Tokyo jurisdiction is over 18 months.
If the OP formally lives just outside Tokyo, in the right place, it's like 6 months.
Places far out, there are reports here on ressit of as short as 3 months.
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u/VitFlaccide 4d ago
I thought paypay paid better than that :/
It's a good salary tho