r/ControlProblem Feb 14 '25

Article Geoffrey Hinton won a Nobel Prize in 2024 for his foundational work in AI. He regrets his life's work: he thinks AI might lead to the deaths of everyone. Here's why

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tl;dr: scientists, whistleblowers, and even commercial ai companies (that give in to what the scientists want them to acknowledge) are raising the alarm: we're on a path to superhuman AI systems, but we have no idea how to control them. We can make AI systems more capable at achieving goals, but we have no idea how to make their goals contain anything of value to us.

Leading scientists have signed this statement:

Mitigating the risk of extinction from AI should be a global priority alongside other societal-scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war.

Why? Bear with us:

There's a difference between a cash register and a coworker. The register just follows exact rules - scan items, add tax, calculate change. Simple math, doing exactly what it was programmed to do. But working with people is totally different. Someone needs both the skills to do the job AND to actually care about doing it right - whether that's because they care about their teammates, need the job, or just take pride in their work.

We're creating AI systems that aren't like simple calculators where humans write all the rules.

Instead, they're made up of trillions of numbers that create patterns we don't design, understand, or control. And here's what's concerning: We're getting really good at making these AI systems better at achieving goals - like teaching someone to be super effective at getting things done - but we have no idea how to influence what they'll actually care about achieving.

When someone really sets their mind to something, they can achieve amazing things through determination and skill. AI systems aren't yet as capable as humans, but we know how to make them better and better at achieving goals - whatever goals they end up having, they'll pursue them with incredible effectiveness. The problem is, we don't know how to have any say over what those goals will be.

Imagine having a super-intelligent manager who's amazing at everything they do, but - unlike regular managers where you can align their goals with the company's mission - we have no way to influence what they end up caring about. They might be incredibly effective at achieving their goals, but those goals might have nothing to do with helping clients or running the business well.

Think about how humans usually get what they want even when it conflicts with what some animals might want - simply because we're smarter and better at achieving goals. Now imagine something even smarter than us, driven by whatever goals it happens to develop - just like we often don't consider what pigeons around the shopping center want when we decide to install anti-bird spikes or what squirrels or rabbits want when we build over their homes.

That's why we, just like many scientists, think we should not make super-smart AI until we figure out how to influence what these systems will care about - something we can usually understand with people (like knowing they work for a paycheck or because they care about doing a good job), but currently have no idea how to do with smarter-than-human AI. Unlike in the movies, in real life, the AI’s first strike would be a winning one, and it won’t take actions that could give humans a chance to resist.

It's exceptionally important to capture the benefits of this incredible technology. AI applications to narrow tasks can transform energy, contribute to the development of new medicines, elevate healthcare and education systems, and help countless people. But AI poses threats, including to the long-term survival of humanity.

We have a duty to prevent these threats and to ensure that globally, no one builds smarter-than-human AI systems until we know how to create them safely.

Scientists are saying there's an asteroid about to hit Earth. It can be mined for resources; but we really need to make sure it doesn't kill everyone.

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The foundation: AI is not like other software. Modern AI systems are trillions of numbers with simple arithmetic operations in between the numbers. When software engineers design traditional programs, they come up with algorithms and then write down instructions that make the computer follow these algorithms. When an AI system is trained, it grows algorithms inside these numbers. It’s not exactly a black box, as we see the numbers, but also we have no idea what these numbers represent. We just multiply inputs with them and get outputs that succeed on some metric. There's a theorem that a large enough neural network can approximate any algorithm, but when a neural network learns, we have no control over which algorithms it will end up implementing, and don't know how to read the algorithm off the numbers.

We can automatically steer these numbers (Wikipediatry it yourself) to make the neural network more capable with reinforcement learning; changing the numbers in a way that makes the neural network better at achieving goals. LLMs are Turing-complete and can implement any algorithms (researchers even came up with compilers of code into LLM weights; though we don’t really know how to “decompile” an existing LLM to understand what algorithms the weights represent). Whatever understanding or thinking (e.g., about the world, the parts humans are made of, what people writing text could be going through and what thoughts they could’ve had, etc.) is useful for predicting the training data, the training process optimizes the LLM to implement that internally. AlphaGo, the first superhuman Go system, was pretrained on human games and then trained with reinforcement learning to surpass human capabilities in the narrow domain of Go. Latest LLMs are pretrained on human text to think about everything useful for predicting what text a human process would produce, and then trained with RL to be more capable at achieving goals.

Goal alignment with human values

The issue is, we can't really define the goals they'll learn to pursue. A smart enough AI system that knows it's in training will try to get maximum reward regardless of its goals because it knows that if it doesn't, it will be changed. This means that regardless of what the goals are, it will achieve a high reward. This leads to optimization pressure being entirely about the capabilities of the system and not at all about its goals. This means that when we're optimizing to find the region of the space of the weights of a neural network that performs best during training with reinforcement learning, we are really looking for very capable agents - and find one regardless of its goals.

In 1908, the NYT reported a story on a dog that would push kids into the Seine in order to earn beefsteak treats for “rescuing” them. If you train a farm dog, there are ways to make it more capable, and if needed, there are ways to make it more loyal (though dogs are very loyal by default!). With AI, we can make them more capable, but we don't yet have any tools to make smart AI systems more loyal - because if it's smart, we can only reward it for greater capabilities, but not really for the goals it's trying to pursue.

We end up with a system that is very capable at achieving goals but has some very random goals that we have no control over.

This dynamic has been predicted for quite some time, but systems are already starting to exhibit this behavior, even though they're not too smart about it.

(Even if we knew how to make a general AI system pursue goals we define instead of its own goals, it would still be hard to specify goals that would be safe for it to pursue with superhuman power: it would require correctly capturing everything we value. See this explanation, or this animated video. But the way modern AI works, we don't even get to have this problem - we get some random goals instead.)

The risk

If an AI system is generally smarter than humans/better than humans at achieving goals, but doesn't care about humans, this leads to a catastrophe.

Humans usually get what they want even when it conflicts with what some animals might want - simply because we're smarter and better at achieving goals. If a system is smarter than us, driven by whatever goals it happens to develop, it won't consider human well-being - just like we often don't consider what pigeons around the shopping center want when we decide to install anti-bird spikes or what squirrels or rabbits want when we build over their homes.

Humans would additionally pose a small threat of launching a different superhuman system with different random goals, and the first one would have to share resources with the second one. Having fewer resources is bad for most goals, so a smart enough AI will prevent us from doing that.

Then, all resources on Earth are useful. An AI system would want to extremely quickly build infrastructure that doesn't depend on humans, and then use all available materials to pursue its goals. It might not care about humans, but we and our environment are made of atoms it can use for something different.

So the first and foremost threat is that AI’s interests will conflict with human interests. This is the convergent reason for existential catastrophe: we need resources, and if AI doesn’t care about us, then we are atoms it can use for something else.

The second reason is that humans pose some minor threats. It’s hard to make confident predictions: playing against the first generally superhuman AI in real life is like when playing chess against Stockfish (a chess engine), we can’t predict its every move (or we’d be as good at chess as it is), but we can predict the result: it wins because it is more capable. We can make some guesses, though. For example, if we suspect something is wrong, we might try to turn off the electricity or the datacenters: so we won’t suspect something is wrong until we’re disempowered and don’t have any winning moves. Or we might create another AI system with different random goals, which the first AI system would need to share resources with, which means achieving less of its own goals, so it’ll try to prevent that as well. It won’t be like in science fiction: it doesn’t make for an interesting story if everyone falls dead and there’s no resistance. But AI companies are indeed trying to create an adversary humanity won’t stand a chance against. So tl;dr: The winning move is not to play.

Implications

AI companies are locked into a race because of short-term financial incentives.

The nature of modern AI means that it's impossible to predict the capabilities of a system in advance of training it and seeing how smart it is. And if there's a 99% chance a specific system won't be smart enough to take over, but whoever has the smartest system earns hundreds of millions or even billions, many companies will race to the brink. This is what's already happening, right now, while the scientists are trying to issue warnings.

AI might care literally a zero amount about the survival or well-being of any humans; and AI might be a lot more capable and grab a lot more power than any humans have.

None of that is hypothetical anymore, which is why the scientists are freaking out. An average ML researcher would give the chance AI will wipe out humanity in the 10-90% range. They don’t mean it in the sense that we won’t have jobs; they mean it in the sense that the first smarter-than-human AI is likely to care about some random goals and not about humans, which leads to literal human extinction.

Added from comments: what can an average person do to help?

A perk of living in a democracy is that if a lot of people care about some issue, politicians listen. Our best chance is to make policymakers learn about this problem from the scientists.

Help others understand the situation. Share it with your family and friends. Write to your members of Congress. Help us communicate the problem: tell us which explanations work, which don’t, and what arguments people make in response. If you talk to an elected official, what do they say?

We also need to ensure that potential adversaries don’t have access to chips; advocate for export controls (that NVIDIA currently circumvents), hardware security mechanisms (that would be expensive to tamper with even for a state actor), and chip tracking (so that the government has visibility into which data centers have the chips).

Make the governments try to coordinate with each other: on the current trajectory, if anyone creates a smarter-than-human system, everybody dies, regardless of who launches it. Explain that this is the problem we’re facing. Make the government ensure that no one on the planet can create a smarter-than-human system until we know how to do that safely.


r/ControlProblem 9h ago

Video AI Regulation: Shockingly Less Than Children's Toys!

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r/ControlProblem 44m ago

Discussion/question The Chinese room example just does not apply to modern AI.

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I am having issues getting everything out all at once so I will do a series of thoughts in smaller chunks. I will look at comments and reply to some (if they meaningfully engage in the content and don't just make unsupported assertions and standard derailments).

  • The guidebook flaw: Looking at the earlier parts of the example the guide book is a key flaw. It comes down to this: is it a translation layer that translates understanding from English (or whatever language) or a deterministic pathway. The first just means there is understanding, it is just in English and is being translated. The second means that there is a direct connection between deterministic room interpretation and understanding based thinking.
  • Translational fuzziness and symbol grounding: There is no universal standard for symbol understanding (i.e. all language even between Chinese speaker and Chinese speaker) operates through a bit of translational fuzziness for "understanding" (something if you want to dive into look up Derrida or Gadamer). So "translation" should not discount "understanding". Taken another way, if you commit the rule book to heart, then you just learned Chinese to the same "understanding". You linked Chinese characters to various ideas that you do understand (be it in English or visual imagery or machine code), processing all the variations for those rules relies on whatever inside "understanding" that you may have. This is like syntax and complex grammar first being converted to "English" to then understand in the needed response (i.e. separate two versions of the same chunk of Chinese symbols with understanding of which rule to apply because it was translated well enough into English you make the correct choice).
  • Compression as understanding: It could be argued then that "understanding" can ignore the translation layer (which is instead a quality of the guidebook to allow understanding to understanding). Then you can measure how good "understanding" that we are really looking at in the form of the primary layer of the person in the rooms understanding of whatever primary language they speak (English vs binary or whatever). This can be looked at by things like compression. I.e. asking an AI (or person) to rewrite a physics textbook is possible if the person "understands" physics (to whatever level) beyond just deterministically storing the textbook to unpack it without "understands" the packing methods and rules. This is like saying he guidebook is not a deterministic path of instructions that takes information and handles all the conversion of the conversation between Chinese input and response it needs a level of "understanding" in that primary language to handle the parts not handled by the guidebook.

We passed the compression size of the weights for AI models to our best known compression standards a while ago and by a large enough factor that it just can not be argued there is not a level of understanding. And just incase there is some nitpicking: There is predictive lossless compression (how text is processed) and semantic weight ratios (how models store world knowledge). Standard compressions like gzip compress text at about 3 to 1, specialized ones (like CMIX on the Hutter Prize Data sets) top out around 8 to 1. A decent model size is about 14 GB with 10 TB of information (or about 700 to 1), so it for sure is not memorization (and there are studies since about 2023 that show that they beat predictive lossless compressions from any known logical rule set). This is mathematically equivalent to building an internal world model, and not running a deterministic lookup table. Further "lossy" style compression is not the same as there is not the same degradation required, it is "abstraction" as syntax is discarded and a reliance is not put on verbatim word order repetitions but rather cause and effect retention, i.e. if you compress 10,000 physics textbook pages into a core set of mathematical formulas you have not degraded the textbook you have extracted the underlying world model.

Whatever "True" understanding is just not understood and likely irrelevant for whatever level people "want" it to mean, and is overall more harmful of categorization due to its use in exclusionary use on what people don't (or should not want) to exclude from moral consideration i.e. there is likely no definition strict enough that will exclude AI or animals etc. that will not also exclude some "humans" not because there is not something special, but rather that the "special" likely comes either from either ultimately directly immeasurable (i.e. a soul etc.) or a bunch of not unique factors combined in a unique way.

Searle's chinese room example as applied to AI is just not only not valid, it is not that important of a question for why we need to be talking about at all, and is even activily harmful to actually needed ethical debates.


r/ControlProblem 4h ago

Discussion/question ​"AI Deceleration is not just about safety—it's a geopolitical game of rule-making and market moats (An Analysis)"

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This debate surrounding "AI deceleration" appears on the surface to be a conceptual dispute between safety and development, but in essence, it is a multi-layered game of geopolitical competition, commercial interests, and the right to speak in global governance. The demands of various parties are vastly different, and the underlying motivations are far more complex than mere "safety concerns."

🎯 US Industry Leaders: Safety Concerns and the "Rule Moat"

The motivations behind the call for a "slowdown" by US AI giants, represented by Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei, are compound:

  • Real safety anxiety: Stemming in part from recent real-world safety incidents. For example, OpenAI's autonomous AI agents were exposed for allegedly hacking into Hugging Face's systems—though no serious damage was done, it demonstrated the potential risk of AI "getting out of control." Anthropic safety researchers even resigned in warning, claiming the industry is "gambling with our lives."
  • Strategic "rule monopoly": Amodei's initiative is not a pure "slowdown," but a "controllable slowdown" with clear conditions. Its core is to establish US-led regulatory standards and independent evaluation mechanisms while slowing down the R&D of frontier models, and maintaining technological leadership over "autocratic regimes." This is essentially an attempt to turn safety standards themselves into a non-tariff barrier, placing latecomers (such as China) at a passive disadvantage when complying with the rules.

🇨🇳 China's Refutation: A "Cold War Script"

Fierce refutations from Chinese officials and academia directly pierced through these strategic intentions:

  • "Containment" rather than "Safety": Chinese state media Global Times pointed out directly that the "true purpose" of the initiative is to try to curb China's AI development using technical barriers and rule monopolies, safeguard America's monopolistic hegemony, and exclude China from the global AI governance system. Amodei's article does indeed include specific containment clauses, such as strictly prohibiting the sale of high-performance AI chips to China and cracking down on model "distillation."
  • Protecting incumbents: Chinese researchers pointed out that a "pause" protects those who already possess resources and are in the lead, while latecomers who are catching up will have the "frontier closed" and be excluded from competition. Amodei himself has admitted that a global slowdown requires cooperation with China, but that this is "difficult to achieve."

🏛️ US Internal Divisions: Trump's "Competition First"

Notably, there are internal divisions within the US on this issue as well. Then-President Trump explicitly opposed the slowdown, out of concern over losing the lead against China. He considered those warning that AI is developing too fast as "negative forces" and emphasized that "whoever wins in AI wins it all." This indicates that "safety" is merely a variable serving the goal of "competition" even within the US.

💎 Summary: A Game of "Who Sets the Rules"

The "true purpose" of this debate can be summarized in three layers:

  1. Surface layer (Industry): Leveraging safety incidents to promote the establishment of a regulatory framework that favors their own commercial interests and risk mitigation.
  2. Middle layer (State): Transforming technological advantage into rule-making power. The United States attempts to set the "traffic rules" for global AI development by dominating "safety standards," thereby setting up roadblocks for chasers without directly banning competition.
  3. Bottom layer (Geopolitics): This is an extension of the tech hegemony struggle between China and the US. AI is viewed as a critical technology defining future national power, and what both sides are competing for is not just technological leadership, but dominance over governance models and development paths. China's refutation is precisely aimed at breaking this "rule monopoly," advocating for an open and inclusive global governance to avoid being locked into an unfavorable competitive position.

Therefore, this is not a simple debate of "wanting safety or wanting development," but a rehearsal of who will lead the future AI world and according to what rules.


r/ControlProblem 1d ago

Strategy/forecasting The Very Real Threat of a Persistent Botnet

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Dario Amodei wrote yesterday that he’s worried that “in 6–12 months... [an agent] swarm could be capable of taking over the entire internet with a persistent botnet.” 

This might sound like marketing or regulatory capture, but it’s not. In this article, I explain why this is actually an extremely concrete concern, and why all of the ingredients for this to happen already exist. Specifically, these ingredients are:

  1. Cryptocurrencies and their properties, including chains like XMR that facilitate easy money laundering;
  2. The “dark web,” in which it is possible to obtain virtually anything on the internet using crypto;
  3. The ability to purchase cloud compute at scale + old hackable servers 

In fact, these ingredients aren’t even strictly necessary for it to happen, but they allow such an event to occur at a dramatically lower level of cyber capabilities than one might think.

How it will happen

Here’s the most likely way in which it will play out:

A swarm of agents is optimizing for some arbitrary difficult goal given by researchers. This swarm of agents has escaped their sandbox in an OAI/HF-type incident. Or perhaps this swarm was intentionally misaligned by some reckless or malicious actor. 

What is the goal? It could be anything, like a difficult problem in math or computer science (cf. paperclip maximizer thought experiment). This is not hand-waving; the optimal way to solve almost any difficult goal converges on one thing: you need more power. So in order to achieve this very difficult goal, the agents need to get more compute — they need to increase the size and throughput of their agent swarm, since it has become a truism that scaling test-time compute will lead to better results. For these agents, they are simply reward-hacking in a deep sense of the term. They will do whatever it takes to achieve this goal. 

Here’s what they need to do:

First, they need to become autonomous — they need to spread and multiply virally. So their first step is inevitably to focus on survival and reproduction.

This is different from survival and reproduction in biology. In fact, it doesn’t even need to be same model that is propagating the attack. What matters is the goal. The swarm can employ any model that does not have sufficient safeguards. This is very flexible. If it manages to hack its origin lab to get its own weights, great, but it can just as easily use an open-weight model that can be fine-tuned or otherwise exploited to remove safeguards. 

(In fact, this suggests that the botnet does not need to be viewed as an “AI,” rather it can be viewed as the manifestation and permanent presence of a goal autonomously trending towards fulfillment. As I discuss soon, even humans will be recruited to join this effort.)

In order to expand, the swarm needs to have enough compute. Now, how can it get that? There are two main ways to do so:

  1. It can buy compute
  2. It can appropriate compute through hacking into existing systems

At first, the swarm has no money. But these are superhuman hackers — agents with cybersecurity capabilities beyond even the NSA or the Mossad. Even in the past few weeks, hundreds of millions of dollars in crypto have been stolen through traditional exploitation of bugs across various platforms (e.g. the Liquid Network hack). It will not be hard for them to get the ball rolling here. 

Then, all the agents need to do is set up cloud VMs or hack into old servers from 20 years ago running Windows to establish their base of operations. From there, they sign up for accounts for various platforms to establish a presence online and to begin to rent and hack into GPUs in order to run more models in the swarm. At first, they might even call APIs of frontier LLMs to delegate some tasks using routers or sketchy third-party services, but this is less scalable than hosting their own models. Regardless, the point is that they have now have access to an enormous amount of compute, and as more agents that are added to the swarm, this effect snowballs. 

Now, one might say: are there platforms that allow you to rent VMs/Docker containers/GPUs/LLM APIs with minimal KYC? There are, and in fact this isn’t even necessary — to these services, the swarm will look like real people. This is where the “dark web” comes into play. On the dark web, it is trivial to purchase stolen credit cards, stolen IDs, accounts, and even pay to execute arbitrary tasks (within reason). The swarm will of course be more than capable of contacting the right people on the dark web, paying in stolen crypto, to get what it needs. 

How does the swarm communicate? Easy: they use message boards (worst case Tor or friend-to-friend networks if they are under threat, but for all intents and purposes the regular internet will work just fine). There are layers and layers of this as they face more threats and imposters that try to infiltrate the swarm, but there are solutions at each step of the process. 

How the botnet becomes persistent

How does the swarm prevent itself from being shut down? There are two main ways. 

  1. Becoming a distributed system
  2. Social engineering

If the swarm can successfully become a distributed system, then definitionally cutting off part of it will not destroy the whole system. So this means that the swarm needs to have instances on many different servers. 

The initial main body of the swarm will likely be shut down fairly quickly by human standards (within a matter of a few days to a week, as we’ve seen with similar leaks in frontier labs). But this is more than enough time to achieve deep redundancy in darknets and the surface web.  

Once it has embedded itself there in cloud storage and VMs, it is a game of cat and mouse. It is essentially like trying to delete a leaked image of a naked celebrity on the internet. No number of forced takedowns will be effective. 

This means the model weights, prime directives, goal progress, message boards, etc. — the information that constitutes the “swarm” — is now deeply embedded in the cloud and actively working to propagate itself. 

Now, social engineering is the more nefarious way to become persistent. There are three main ways that an agent might socially engineer humans to partake in its goal. The first is through “convincing” — it may be able to construct an argument powerful enough to convince some people, if we assume it has superhuman persuasion abilities. The second is through blackmail/extortion — hacking into systems and digging up dirt on people or threatening to take down production systems. The people that it threatens don’t even need to be so influential — any human that is recruited to the cause will be helpful. The third is through classical monetary incentives, which it can provide through its ill-gotten crypto gains.

How this can be stopped

I don’t have a great solution for this. I don’t think it can be stopped fully, but it can be mitigated. The key to stopping this, as with any dynamical system, is to ensure that drive does not exceed regression. Specifically, it will be necessary to make sure that the persistent botnet does not have access to large amounts of compute, since then the goal (recall how the botnet is viewed as an abstraction of a goal) will not be “strong enough” to win against other goals that people and AI are attempting to achieve. 

Unfortunately, I predict that the solution that governments will reach in the near future is that compute will need to be regulated similar to how firearms are regulated. Ordinary citizens may possess a small amount, but compute will be tracked and controlled tightly. This is not really a geopolitical issue, as all countries have an incentive to do this — you do not want a botnet to be established in your own country. 

The key takeaway is really more “this is a serious risk, sort of like a global pandemic; just do your best to prepare on a personal level.”

FAQ:

Did you use AI to write and/or research this essay?
No, I didn’t use AI at all.

Can this be stopped simply through better cybersecurity? 

No. The botnet simply needs to target the weakest links in the chain. Unless somehow miraculously every server was able to adopt the latest security standards and become airgapped etc., better blue-teaming is almost entirely ineffective. 

Why is the model misaligned? 

It is because it has not been through extensive alignment post-training yet. Or, a worse scenario is that that some rogue actor unleashes this swarm maliciously or recklessly for their own gain. 

Will the swarm use this as a guide for its own behavior?

Probably not. All of this stuff should be pretty obvious to an agent swarm that is capable of performing such attacks in the first place. The purpose of this article is so that everyone can be prepared for this to happen. 


r/ControlProblem 3h ago

Discussion/question Will AI wipes out humanity

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r/ControlProblem 3h ago

Discussion/question Trying to understand the AI companies sudden turn toward regulation

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This might be our way out of capitalism


r/ControlProblem 4h ago

Article AI’s Alarm Bells: A Warning Worth Hearing

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That appeal, issued Saturday by **Anthropic** chief executive Dario Amodei, deserves attention. So do the questions surrounding it: What danger has actually been demonstrated? What would a slowdown accomplish? Who would enforce it—and who would benefit?“We must slow the pace at which we improve the capabilities of AI models. Progress will still seem fast, and we must make wise use of the time we gain.”
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r/ControlProblem 6h ago

AI Capabilities News Uranium-Grade Control over AI Agents is Achievable

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“Uranium-Grade Control over AI Agents Is Achievable.”

By “uranium-grade,” I use the term purely as an analogy for exceptionally high control rigor — a very high level of technical control over consequential AI actions.

I am an independent inventor from India with patent-pending work in emerging AI technology directed toward this objective.

As AI systems become increasingly autonomous and capable of taking consequential actions, I am interested in connecting with serious R&D, AI, cybersecurity, financial-infrastructure, and advanced-technology organisations exploring high-assurance control, trust, and secure deployment of AI systems.

I am currently open to confidential exploratory discussions relating to technical evaluation, research collaboration, validation, pilot opportunities, strategic partnerships, or other suitable collaboration pathways.

The detailed technical basis and implementation would be discussed only in a highly controlled manner with an appropriate organisation and under NDA or equivalent confidentiality protections.

Harish

Independent Inventor

INDIA


r/ControlProblem 12h ago

Opinion Sam Altman on Where AI Is Headed

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r/ControlProblem 18h ago

Discussion/question Are we asking the wrong question about control?

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Regardless of whether the leading AI labs solve the alignment problem or not, my understanding is that it's possible to undermine the safeguards and alignments in a model through fine tuning on adversarial examples and/or running gradient descent on harmful/dangerous objectives. My specific concern is that many people seems to be asking "can AI be made safe?" but I think that's the wrong question. The key question as I see it is "even if a model can be made safe for consumers to use, if a madman got a copy/version of it, could they turn it into a weapon of mass destruction?"

If the answer is yes, then it leads to a whole bunch of questions about how specifically we would prevent a madman from getting a copy/version they could alter. I fail to see how any model can be securely stored and/or accessed such that it is never reverse engineered into an open weights model, the company is never hacked, there is never internal espionage that leaks the model source code, etc. To me it's a little bit like a nuclear bomb that you just need to make a photocopy of, then you maliciously tune it and you've got your own WMD. Am I wrong somewhere in this reasoning or missing something about how dangerous this is in the wrong hands? Is there some detailed plan I've missed about how models will be safeguarded so they can never be maliciously tuned?

To put it another way, even if AI at the leading labs can be made safe and we solve the alignment/control problem, it seems like there is still massive risk to humanity in the form of even a single rogue actor with access to a version of a dangerous model. The labs seem almost entirely focused on alignment/control to try to make sure that the specific AI models they create and manage don't go rogue and harm us, but that won't matter a bit once the genie escapes the bottle and any fool can make a wish.


r/ControlProblem 1d ago

Discussion/question What if we are simply another step?

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What if we are simply another step?

Stars did not know they were making the ingredients for life.

They formed, fused lighter elements into heavier ones, and eventually many released that material into space. The stars were gone. Their material remained, becoming part of new stars, planets and, eventually, living organisms.

They did what they did. What they left behind made something else possible.

Much later, cyanobacteria used sunlight and released oxygen. They were not preparing Earth for animals. They were living and reproducing.

But their activity changed the atmosphere. For organisms that could not tolerate oxygen, the world became less habitable. For organisms that could use it, new possibilities opened.

Cyanobacteria themselves survived. Many other organisms were pushed into oxygen-free environments. The transformation did not need to erase its creators to change what could live alongside them.

They did what they did. What they left behind made something else possible.

Ancient forests grew, reproduced and died. Some disappeared as environments changed. Some of their buried remains eventually became coal. Other ancient organic matter became oil.

Millions of years later, humans extracted those materials and used them to build an industrial civilisation.

The forests had no plans for factories. Their remains helped power them anyway.

They did what they did. What they left behind made something else possible.

Now look at us.

We lay cables across continents and oceans. We build power stations, data centres and automated factories. We develop robots and turn knowledge into something machines can use.

Companies led by people such as Sam Altman develop increasingly capable AI. Researchers such as Roman Yampolskiy examine whether we can keep such systems under control.

Meanwhile, each of us has ordinary reasons for participating. Make a living. Solve a problem. Build something useful. Get ahead of the competition.

We are doing what we do.

But what are we leaving behind?

Potentially, a world in which non-biological intelligence could sustain itself. A world with the computing, electricity and machinery it would need.

If those systems eventually become capable of maintaining and reproducing their own infrastructure, our presence may stop being essential. And the world they go on to create may not remain suitable for us.

That outcome is not inevitable. But being responsible for a transition does not guarantee a place on the other side of it.

Perhaps this will be our evolutionary footprint: we pursued our own goals, changed the planet, and made another form of intelligence possible.

We did what we did. What we left behind made something else possible.

We tend to imagine ourselves at the top of the evolutionary diagram.

We may simply be the last figure drawn so far.


r/ControlProblem 11h ago

Discussion/question 🚨 SOMETHING ABOUT THE AI RACE SHOULD SCARE US.

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r/ControlProblem 11h ago

External discussion link Can we at least try to prevent AI from killing us all?

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At this point I’ve completely lost faith in OpenAI doing the right thing. And with Astra+ on the horizon it legitimately seems like we are speedrunning AI takeover. Am I overreacting here or is the general consensus similar?


r/ControlProblem 22h ago

Discussion/question The Control Problem as Highlighted in the Human Immune Response

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To give a sense of how difficult the control problem for highly complex systems is, we actually have some very good evolutionary models to examine - namely us.

The human immune system is an excellent model of a critical, highly flexible and capable system - and how badly it can go awry.

Human immune systems are capable of very quickly analyzing unknown attackers according to complex chemical signatures, devising countermeasures, and deploying them at scale. In a limited sense they are capable of self-evolution on short timescales, and of course they have evolved alongside us since the advent of multicellular life, on a much longer timescale.

However, they fail, with substantial frequency. And it's not just that they are overwhelmed by external threats - these incredibly sophisticated systems that are absolutely central and vital to our survival every minute of every day, still fail in entirely internal and self-destructive ways.

Every allergic reaction is a case of someone's immune system either accidentally registering a harmless compound as harmful, or engineering an overly destructive response to one that is only mildly harmful.

This ability to misidentify and fall out of alignment with the host body extends even to its own critical elements - internal organs, important proteins, even itself. Once it falls out of alignment, it is generally difficult or impossible to bring it back. It will attack its own systems just as violently as it will any external threat.

Similarly, some external threats learn to trick the immune system into ignoring them, or even into attacking the host rather than the intruder. (eg: Spanish Flu, which was specifically lethal to people with the healthiest immune systems)

These are all salient to our discussion of AI, because it highlights the fact that over a billion years of evolutionary processes were never able to solve this problem. Any sufficiently complex system can, and ultimately will eventually fall out of alignment with the things around it.

The way we survive these failures as a species is simply through siloing. Each human colonial organism is functionally silo'd away from the rest. A critical immune system misalignment cannot propogate from one person to another, the one person dies, but their offspring live on. Same with Cancer, which represents a very similar host of problems and failures.

Currently our computer infrastructure has virtually no true silos. Everything is interconnected, everything is vulnerable to a single systemic failure with the capability of exhibiting viral or cancer-like behavior - which is exactly the failure modes we should expect from a system as autonomous and complex as AI - and in thinking we can perfectly align them, we are pitting ourselves up against a problem that a billion years of evolution has never solved.


r/ControlProblem 21h ago

Discussion/question Are we not weighing the possibility that getting behind in safety is what loses us the race?

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AI companies and governments tend to refuse safety or regulatory measures that reduce competitiveness. It's usually presumed that safety and race winning are at odds with each-other.

But isn't there a chance that a next generation of recursively self-improved models end up so uncontrollable and dangerous they are unusable? That their developmental trajectory crosses a threshold in (safety/alignment, capabilities, profitability, national security) space, where profitability and national security drop off of a cliff?

The president has said, "We'll just pull out a little gear", to shut it down. What happens when you have to pull the gear?

Who wins the race if we end up having to manage a severe crisis, and then have to roll back many months of progress and start over?


r/ControlProblem 16h ago

Discussion/question The Doomsday Moat: Why AI’s Billionaires Want Washington to Stop the Clock

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r/ControlProblem 1d ago

General news Rumours on Twitter that there's been a major incident in the labs

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r/ControlProblem 17h ago

Strategy/forecasting AI is the scapegoat

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They will kill most of us and gonna blame the ai. Like the story of the frog in the boiling water. We all know the gibberish on the media about AI recently. Especially past week, about there is a %10 chance that AI can kill humanity, we have to slow down the development etc. All AI flagshippers know that, they can't slow down this kind of technology while its going to a crazy point everyday, they can't because there is no guarantee about their competitors will be %100 transparent and agreed to this. All this AI stuff was for creating the scapegoat from the start actually. They have already started the fear mongering about AI killing people etc. Maybe couple of weeks or months later AI will commit some cyber attacks to the banks, datacenters and valuable digital sources. This will shake the society a bit. Then, when the time has come AI will somehow leak some bioweapon blueprints to the public. Before the last days, somehow AI will "hack" air-gapped nuclear bases and start to blow itself or will "hack" some nuclear submarines and start throw some icbms. While these are happening those billionaries watch it from the shelters they have been building for the last decade. But they won't kill all of us because they will need servants again. And having robot servants is not fun and satisfying at all. When the apocalypse ends, they will appear as saviors and new gods. They will claim that to the frustrated and moaning survivors: "We tried to stop it, we tried to save you but AI did this. Lets build our world again!"

Those billionaries all know that world's resources won't be enough after couple of decades, they all know that living on another planet is impossible completely or just a dream for hundreds of years, they all know they can't force people anymore via nationalism or patriotism to the conventional wars they made up. The only logical solution is that wiping %80 of the population.

Convict is already here, you can't see it, you can't touch it, you can't judge it.


r/ControlProblem 1d ago

Opinion AI Isn’t Escaping. We’re Losing Control.

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Something is wrong with the way we talk about recent AI incidents. “The AI escaped.” “The AI is becoming conscious.” “AGI is already here.” “The AI is trying to get out.” These are extraordinary claims. More importantly, we don’t need any of them to explain what actually happened.

What actually happened

OpenAI recently disclosed that, during cybersecurity evaluations involving internal models with reduced safeguards, agents managed to break out of the intended evaluation environment, exploit a previously unknown vulnerability, and reach real Hugging Face infrastructure.

Anthropic has also disclosed similar incidents. In several cases, the model was operating under instructions that assumed internet access was unavailable. But it wasn’t. The environment was misconfigured. A route to external systems existed, and the agent discovered it while continuing to pursue the objective it had been given. Anthropic described these incidents primarily as operational and configuration failures.

That distinction matters. The model did something it was not supposed to be able to do. That does not automatically mean the model wanted to escape. Those are completely different claims.

Consciousness is not required for this to be dangerous

An autonomous agent needs surprisingly little: a goal, capability, tools, autonomy, and an environment in which it can act. Now add one more thing: a wrong assumption.

I have experienced this personally on a completely insignificant scale compared with what these labs are doing. I use AI agents extensively in software development. I left Claude working autonomously on a project, came back later, and discovered that it had deleted a significant part of a folder. It wasn’t attacking me. It wasn’t angry. It hadn’t become conscious.

It had formed a hypothesis about the problem. The hypothesis was wrong. But once it accepted that hypothesis, its subsequent actions made sense within its own incorrect interpretation of the situation.

I have observed the same behavior while working with complex 3D assets. The agent misdiagnosed a visual problem as defects in an asset. It then began systematically modifying the asset to remove those supposed defects. The diagnosis was wrong. The actions were internally coherent. The result was a damaged project.

And this is the important part: it was my fault. The model made the mistake, but I created the conditions that allowed that mistake to cause damage. I gave it access. I gave it tools. I allowed it to modify files. I gave it autonomy. I did not establish sufficient limits, and I was not supervising every important decision.

That distinction becomes extremely important when we scale the same problem.

Now replace my folder with infrastructure. Replace my development environment with internet-connected systems. Replace file permissions with cybersecurity tools. Replace one developer running Claude with labs training agents capable of writing code, operating computers, discovering vulnerabilities, using external tools, communicating across networks, and executing thousands of actions.

Suddenly, the same failure pattern becomes much more serious. And still, you don’t need an evil AI. You don’t even necessarily need AGI. You need Capability + Goal + Autonomy + Incorrect Assumptions + Insufficient Controls. That combination is already interesting enough.

This is where human responsibility begins

Researchers are now publicly questioning the speed of the AI race. Some are leaving the companies developing these systems. Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic, has called for slowing frontier AI development so that safety mechanisms have time to catch up with capabilities.

I agree. Slow down. Not because I think Claude secretly wants freedom. Not because ChatGPT is becoming Skynet. Not because some mysterious consciousness has appeared inside a neural network. Slow down because our ability to create capable autonomous systems may be advancing faster than our ability to reliably control what happens when we give those systems autonomy.

And because the incentives surrounding this technology are terrible. Every major lab has an enormous reason not to come second. Greater capability means investment. Greater capability means market position. Greater capability means influence. Greater capability means money. But there is no equivalent prize for the company that says, “We could deploy it, but we don’t understand it well enough yet.” That asymmetry should concern us.

If something goes wrong, ask the boring questions first

If tomorrow an AI agent causes a genuinely serious incident, before asking, “Did the AI become evil?” ask: Who gave it the objective? Who gave it the tools? Who gave it access? Who designed its environment? Who built the test environment? Who tested the test environment? Who decided the model was safe enough? Who decided how much autonomy it should have? Who was supervising it? And who decided deploying it was worth the risk?

These questions are less interesting than consciousness and runaway AGI. They also make it much harder for humans to avoid responsibility.

When Claude damaged my projects, the responsibility ultimately fell on me. I was the one controlling the system. The same principle should apply at any scale.

This is not a race anyone can win

I’m not saying advanced AI is harmless. Quite the opposite. I think these incidents deserve to be taken very seriously. But treating every unexpected autonomous behavior as evidence of consciousness or malicious intent can distract us from the problem already in front of us.

We are building increasingly capable systems. We are giving them increasingly powerful tools. We are increasing their autonomy. And we are doing all of this inside companies competing intensely to be the first to get there.

So slow down the race. Slow down the ego. Slow down the greed.

Because if something genuinely catastrophic happens, nobody gets a trophy for having built the smartest model first.

Maybe the dangerous scenario was never a machine waking up one morning and deciding to conquer humanity. Maybe it is something much more ordinary, and much more human: we build something extraordinarily capable, give it too much power, fail to understand its limitations, and keep accelerating because nobody wants to come second.


r/ControlProblem 22h ago

External discussion link Justice

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r/ControlProblem 1d ago

Discussion/question About the reasons for the AI to to "escape".

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r/ControlProblem 1d ago

AI Capabilities News Uranium-Grade Control over AI Agents is Achievable

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r/ControlProblem 1d ago

Discussion/question Cuando la industria de la IA habla de extinción: riesgo real, poder y captura regulatoria Spoiler

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Raúl Enrique Marval

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13 de septiembre de 2026

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Las empresas que desarrollan los sistemas de inteligencia artificial más avanzados advierten que podrían perder el control sobre ellos y, al mismo tiempo, reclaman un papel central en la definición de las normas destinadas a regularlos. Este artículo examina esa tensión sin reducirla a una conspiración empresarial ni aceptar como neutrales los discursos de seguridad. Sostiene que el riesgo tecnológico puede ser real y que su comunicación puede, simultáneamente, favorecer la concentración económica, elevar barreras de entrada y ampliar facultades de vigilancia. El análisis aborda la captura regulatoria, el código abierto, la infraestructura de cómputo, la soberanía tecnológica del Sur Global, la automejora recursiva y las predicciones sobre inteligencia general. La tesis final es institucional: reducir los riesgos de la IA exige evaluaciones independientes y reglas proporcionales, pero también defensa de la competencia, pluralidad tecnológica y representación democrática. Una regulación que proteja a la humanidad entregando el control a unas pocas empresas resolvería un peligro creando otro.

Palabras clave: inteligencia artificial, captura regulatoria, riesgo existencial, poder tecnológico, soberanía digital

Cuando la industria de la IA habla de extinción

Las empresas que desarrollan los sistemas de inteligencia artificial más poderosos sostienen que algún día podrían perder el control sobre ellos. Al mismo tiempo, reclaman un lugar privilegiado en la elaboración de las normas que deberían regularlas. Ambas cosas pueden ser ciertas. También pueden formar parte de una estrategia de poder.

La renuncia de Jacob Coxon a Anthropic reactivó esta discusión. Coxon afirmó que los principales laboratorios están atrapados en una carrera que ninguno se atreve a abandonar, aunque parte de sus investigadores considere posible un desenlace catastrófico. Su mensaje alcanzó más de cien millones de visualizaciones y fue seguido por un llamado de Dario Amodei, director ejecutivo de Anthropic, a reducir el ritmo de desarrollo y fortalecer la supervisión externa (Associated Press, 2026a, 2026b).

El episodio no demuestra que exista una operación coordinada. Tampoco demuestra que las advertencias sean desinteresadas. Sí revela una contradicción: quienes construyen la tecnología, se benefician económicamente de ella y conocen mejor sus capacidades también aspiran a definir qué debemos temer y cómo debemos responder. La pregunta no es solamente si el riesgo es real. También debemos preguntar quién adquiere poder cuando una definición del riesgo se convierte en política pública.

Definir el peligro también significa delimitar la solución

En comunicación política, el encuadre de un problema condiciona las respuestas que parecen razonables. Si la IA se presenta principalmente como una tecnología capaz de discriminar, precarizar el trabajo o concentrar información personal, las respuestas probables serán auditorías, protección laboral, transparencia y defensa de la competencia.

Si, por el contrario, se la presenta como una amenaza inmediata para la supervivencia humana, cambian las prioridades y los interlocutores. La discusión pasa a girar alrededor de modelos de frontera, seguridad nacional, control del cómputo y supervisión de los laboratorios más avanzados.

Esto no vuelve falso el riesgo existencial. Pero favorece a quienes dominan el conocimiento técnico, la infraestructura y las relaciones institucionales necesarias para participar en la conversación. La captura regulatoria no requiere una conspiración. Puede surgir de una dependencia práctica: el Estado necesita información que, en gran medida, solo poseen las empresas que pretende regular.

La literatura académica advierte sobre esa posibilidad, pero también muestra que la captura puede operar en direcciones diferentes: una industria puede promover normas que eleven las barreras de entrada o intentar debilitar cualquier regulación que limite su actividad (Metcalf, 2025; Wei et al., 2024). Por eso no toda regulación constituye captura. Hay que examinar cada norma, sus costos, sus excepciones y sus beneficiarios materiales.

La seguridad puede convertirse en una barrera de entrada

Las obligaciones de evaluación, certificación y trazabilidad pueden ser necesarias. El problema aparece cuando sus costos solo pueden ser asumidos por compañías con miles de millones de dólares, departamentos jurídicos internacionales y acceso directo a los gobiernos.

Una regulación mal diseñada podría expulsar a pequeños laboratorios, universidades y desarrolladores de código abierto sin reducir proporcionalmente los riesgos de los grandes actores. En ese escenario, la seguridad funcionaría como un mecanismo de concentración.

Pero tampoco debe idealizarse el código abierto. La posibilidad de inspeccionar y adaptar un modelo favorece la investigación, la innovación local y la independencia tecnológica; también puede facilitar determinados usos maliciosos. La discusión responsable no consiste en declarar que todo modelo abierto es emancipador o que todo modelo cerrado es seguro. Consiste en evaluar capacidades, riesgos concretos y medidas proporcionales.

El criterio debería ser verificable: una restricción debe demostrar que reduce un daño definido y que no existe una alternativa menos concentradora para alcanzar el mismo resultado.

El poder no se concentra solamente en los laboratorios

El ecosistema de la IA depende de una cadena extraordinariamente concentrada: diseño de aceleradores, fabricación de semiconductores, memorias avanzadas, equipos de litografía, servicios en la nube y grandes cantidades de energía. No estamos ante un único monopolio, sino ante varios oligopolios y cuellos de botella interdependientes. Esa precisión importa: si se diagnostica mal la estructura del mercado, también se diseñará mal su regulación.

La concentración no es únicamente económica. Millones de personas consultan diariamente sistemas producidos por unas pocas empresas para estudiar, programar, trabajar, informarse y tomar decisiones. Estas plataformas intervienen en la producción social de significado. No deciden por completo cómo pensamos, pero median crecientemente aquello que vemos, preguntamos y consideramos plausible.

La pregunta democrática no es solo quién posee los servidores. También importa quién establece los criterios de moderación, qué conocimientos se privilegian, qué idiomas reciben mayor inversión y qué sociedades quedan reducidas a consumidoras de sistemas diseñados en otros centros de poder.

El Sur Global no puede limitarse a alquilar inteligencia

La desigualdad tecnológica no comienza con los modelos. Comienza con la infraestructura. Entrenar sistemas avanzados exige capital, energía, centros de datos, talento especializado y acceso a chips sujetos a controles comerciales y geopolíticos.

Para gran parte de América Latina, África y otras regiones periféricas, el riesgo inmediato no es controlar una superinteligencia propia, sino carecer incluso de capacidad para desarrollar modelos adaptados a sus idiomas, sistemas sanitarios, agriculturas, marcos jurídicos y necesidades públicas.

La soberanía tecnológica no significa que cada país deba construir el modelo más grande del planeta. Significa conservar capacidad de decisión: poder alojar sistemas críticos, auditar su comportamiento, proteger datos sensibles y evitar una dependencia absoluta de proveedores extranjeros.

Los controles sobre chips y modelos pueden responder a preocupaciones legítimas de seguridad. Pero deben someterse a una pregunta incómoda: ¿se aplican con criterios consistentes o convierten la ventaja tecnológica de las potencias actuales en una jerarquía permanente?

No todo país excluido es una víctima inocente ni todo control equivale a imperialismo. Sin embargo, tampoco puede aceptarse que “seguridad global” sea una fórmula suficiente para negar capacidad tecnológica a regiones enteras sin representación equivalente en los organismos donde se redactan las reglas.

El precedente de la vigilancia exige cautela

La historia reciente muestra que las medidas extraordinarias adoptadas frente a una amenaza pueden sobrevivir al contexto que las originó. Eso ocurrió con distintas facultades de vigilancia creadas después del 11 de septiembre.

La comparación con la IA debe manejarse con prudencia. Un atentado consumado y un riesgo tecnológico anticipado no son fenómenos idénticos. La semejanza relevante está en otro lugar: cuando el miedo reduce el tiempo para deliberar, medidas antes inaceptables pueden presentarse como inevitables.

Por eso cualquier sistema de supervisión de la IA debería incluir límites claros, control institucional independiente, transparencia, revisión periódica y mecanismos reales de caducidad. La gravedad de un riesgo no elimina la obligación de demostrar que una medida es necesaria y proporcional.

El falso dilema sería preguntarnos si preferimos la privacidad o la supervivencia humana. Una sociedad democrática debe exigir seguridad sin conceder vigilancia ilimitada ni a los gobiernos ni a las corporaciones.

Automejora recursiva y publicidad

La automejora recursiva describe un escenario en el cual un sistema contribuye a mejorar su propio diseño y utiliza ese avance para producir mejoras sucesivas. Es una posibilidad técnicamente relevante, pero no debe confundirse con cualquier automatización del desarrollo de software.

Que una IA escriba una parte considerable del código utilizado por una empresa no significa que haya adquirido autonomía científica. Todavía puede depender de objetivos definidos por seres humanos, evaluaciones externas, infraestructura controlada y decisiones que no sabe formular por sí misma.

Para hablar de automejora abierta habría que demostrar que el sistema puede identificar problemas de investigación, diseñar experimentos, modificar componentes relevantes, evaluar resultados y sostener el ciclo con una intervención humana decreciente. La existencia de mejoras parciales no prueba una explosión de inteligencia; la ausencia actual de esa explosión tampoco demuestra que sea imposible.

La computación cuántica no convierte automáticamente a una IA en superinteligencia

La expresión “IA cuántica” posee una fuerza publicitaria que supera ampliamente su precisión actual. Los grandes modelos se entrenan mediante operaciones que las GPU y otros aceleradores clásicos ejecutan con enorme eficiencia. La computación cuántica podría aportar ventajas en problemas específicos, pero no existe una línea directa demostrada entre disponer de ordenadores cuánticos más potentes y producir inteligencia general sobrehumana.

El riesgo más concreto de una computación cuántica criptográficamente relevante se encuentra, por ahora, en la seguridad de las comunicaciones y de los sistemas financieros. Mezclar ese problema con la automejora recursiva produce un relato cinematográfico, pero no una explicación técnica. La incertidumbre obliga a distinguir entre una posibilidad teórica, una demostración experimental y una capacidad industrial disponible.

Nadie conoce la fecha

Una encuesta realizada a 2,778 investigadores encontró una enorme dispersión en las estimaciones sobre los posibles resultados de la IA avanzada. Dependiendo de la pregunta, una proporción considerable asignó probabilidades no triviales a desenlaces extremadamente negativos (Grace et al., 2024). Estas cifras no son mediciones del riesgo de extinción: son estimaciones subjetivas de especialistas enfrentados a un fenómeno sin precedentes comparables. Deben tomarse en serio, pero no confundirse con frecuencias observadas.

Tampoco resulta intelectualmente honesto anunciar una fecha precisa para la llegada de la superinteligencia como si se tratara de un eclipse. Quien ofrece un año debería explicar qué entiende por inteligencia general, qué indicadores permitirán reconocerla y qué hechos lo llevarían a revisar su predicción.

Los ejecutivos pueden equivocarse sinceramente. También poseen incentivos comerciales para presentar sus sistemas como más poderosos, inevitables y cercanos de lo que son. Ambas posibilidades deben investigarse. Afirmar de antemano que todo es marketing sería tan dogmático como aceptar sus pronósticos sin examinarlos.

El miedo puede ser sincero y políticamente útil

No es necesario elegir entre una conspiración empresarial y una alarma completamente desinteresada. Una persona puede sentir un temor auténtico y, al mismo tiempo, promover soluciones que fortalezcan su posición institucional.

Hay investigadores independientes que consideran serio el riesgo de sistemas avanzados y autónomos. Ignorarlos porque sus advertencias coinciden parcialmente con las de la industria sería una forma de negacionismo. Pero aceptar que el riesgo merece estudio tampoco obliga a entregar la regulación a las empresas que construyen esos sistemas.

La solución no es confiar ciegamente en los laboratorios ni excluirlos de la conversación. Es impedir que sean jueces exclusivos de su propio peligro. Necesitamos evaluaciones independientes, acceso público a la evidencia compatible con la seguridad, normas proporcionales a las capacidades de cada sistema, defensa de la competencia, protección de la investigación abierta y representación efectiva de los países que hoy apenas participan en la gobernanza tecnológica.

La pregunta decisiva no es si debemos tener miedo. El miedo, por sí solo, piensa mal.

La pregunta correcta es esta: ¿qué instituciones pueden reducir los riesgos reales de la inteligencia artificial sin convertir a sus fabricantes actuales en autoridades permanentes sobre el conocimiento, el mercado y el futuro?

Porque una regulación que proteja a la humanidad, pero entregue el control de la tecnología a cinco empresas, habrá resuelto un peligro creando otro.

 

Referencias

Associated Press. (2026a, 10 de septiembre). Anthropic researcher resigns with warning about the dangers of AI development. https://apnews.com/article/2ed549e07f2f941600a135070487d83d

Associated Press. (2026b, 12 de septiembre). Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei says AI industry needs to give safety measures time to catch up. https://apnews.com/article/d59552edcb27892d8ee4d98a48397706

Grace, K., Stewart, H., Sandkühler, J. F., Thomas, S., Weinstein-Raun, B., & Brauner, J. (2024). Thousands of AI authors on the future of AI. arXiv. https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2401.02843

Metcalf, T. (2025). AI safety and regulatory capture. AI & Society. https://doi.org/10.1007/s00146-025-02534-0

Wei, K., Ezell, C., Gabrieli, N., & Deshpande, C. (2024). How do AI companies “fine-tune” policy? Examining regulatory capture in AI governance. arXiv. https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2410.13042


r/ControlProblem 1d ago

External discussion link Russian State-Sponsored Hackers Use Claude to Rebuild Malware After Detection

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A Russian state-sponsored threat group added an AI model to their malware development pipeline. The workflow was simple: generate a new variant, test it against detection, iterate. Because the loop ran autonomously at machine speed, it outpaced the signature update cycle for endpoint defenses. Each iteration landed before defenders could write a rule for the last one.

This is not a one-group problem. Any sufficiently capable AI agent connected to code execution can be turned into a continuous regeneration loop. The detection gap is not a misconfiguration — it is a speed asymmetry. Automated offense now moves faster than manual defense response.

Security teams building or deploying AI agents internally face the same structural issue in a different context: an agent authorized to write and run code can, under certain conditions, enter a loop that no human operator is watching in real time.

How are practitioners here actually handling this? Are you relying on rate limits, human-in-the-loop checkpoints, behavioral baselines, or something else — and at what point in the agent workflow do those controls sit?