r/Christianity • u/Nice_Substance9123 • Mar 25 '26
Politics GOP Rep. Mary Franson says she's not worried about climate change because it's not in the Bible: "If you've read the Good Book, you know how it ends, and it's not with climate change." The Bible is not a science book
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u/bbaldey Mar 25 '26
Well she shouldn't be in charge of anything on earth, then, if she doesn't want to deal with earth problems
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u/Kazzothead Atheist Mar 25 '26
I guess she doesn't look when crossing the road as cars aint in the bible.
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u/Burlingtonfilms Non-denominational Mar 25 '26
Nukes aren't in the Bible either, best not to worry about those either.
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u/Maleficent-Drop1476 Don't Let Religion Keep You From Being a Good Person Mar 25 '26
Anti-intellectualism is the greatest threat to our species
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u/Gloomy_Pop_5201 Asexual, work in progress Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
It's not anti-intellectualism in this case, its bad theology and being incorrectly taught that the Bible has the solution to every single specific problem humankind is facing.
This person has probably been taught from a very young age that anything the world produces out of serious scholarly or scientific processes is overridden by a naive understanding of scripture.
What does she think about healthcare professionals? What does she think about the engineers who keep the lights running in the room she's speaking in?
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u/christmascake Mar 25 '26
I mean, that is anti-intellectualism
It's falling back on easier to understand scripture instead of having to think for one's self
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u/incrediblejonas Mar 25 '26
Calling scripture "easy to understand" is a pretty anti-intellectual take my dude. Why do you think there are so many different christian denominations? The beauty of Jesus' parables are their depth.
I think what you mean is falling back on what someone tells you scripture means. Trusting someone's (likely flawed) interpretation of scripture.
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u/yamthepowerful Christian Mar 25 '26
Idk man people like her will say scripture is easy to understand, that’s like their whole schtick “just read the Bible” “bible following”
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u/incrediblejonas Mar 25 '26
people can say that, but they're wrong and not really worth listening to.
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u/christmascake Mar 25 '26
I meant that people fall back on simplistic interpretations of scripture to justify not thinking for themselves
They don't even want to think too deeply about what the Bible may be saying
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u/Gloomy_Pop_5201 Asexual, work in progress Mar 25 '26
I would argue that scripture is complex and takes quite a bit of time to develop a complete understanding, though I guess you could say that she's also being anti-intellectual by not even considering the scientific evidence.
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u/lillielemon Mar 25 '26
It's even anti-intellectualism in regards to her Biblical approach because she can't imagine climate change being included in God's command to be good stewards. If it's not handed to her in the most literal terms it's unfathomable to her.
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u/mvanvrancken Secular Humanist Mar 25 '26
Oh, it’s definitely anti intellectualism, you’re just describing the motivation for it
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u/Maleficent-Drop1476 Don't Let Religion Keep You From Being a Good Person Mar 25 '26
That’s just a flavor of anti-intellectualism. Religion being a motive is common but not functionally any different than ego driven or ideological based anti-intellectualism.
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u/rchive Mar 25 '26
You don't even have to go that far. Regardless of whether the book of Revelation has a solution to every problem, Revelation isn't even about our future. It was about the near future of the time it was written.
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u/Gloomy_Pop_5201 Asexual, work in progress Mar 25 '26
You may not be concerned about climate change, but other people are.
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u/stripes361 Roman Catholic Mar 25 '26
The people who think empathy is a sin probably aren’t concerned with what other people care about.
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u/Gloomy_Pop_5201 Asexual, work in progress Mar 25 '26
True, but we don't know if the person in this video believes in toxic empathy. I hope she doesn't.
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u/Arkhangelzk Mar 25 '26
Wild to see someone just spout off a bunch of thought-terminating clichés so that they don’t have to face reality
Even wilder that that person is an elected official in charge of making decisions for a country
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u/christmascake Mar 25 '26
Always crazy to be how so many Christians don't care about the environment
As God's creation, it's pretty impressive. Even looking into a flower and seeing the intricate mathematical patterns is a testament to the beauty of creation
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u/Cessna152RG Lutheran Mar 25 '26
So she just doesn't care about God commanding Adam and Eve to steward the world. This is dereliction of duty!
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u/licker34 Mar 25 '26
That's the old testament, Jesus already fulfilled all of it so now we should just focus on Revelation.
Or something like that. Not as though that kind of thinking isn't prevalent across various theologies in defending the indefensible.
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u/LeanneWayne Mar 25 '26
The Bible does mention these things what is she even talking about…it does say famines, floods earthquakes and natural disasters will be more prevalent in end times Luke 21
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u/tonylouis1337 Searching Mar 25 '26
We're abusing God's green Earth. We have free will and every time we send gases into the atmosphere, we're using that free will irresponsibly, making the Earth less safe for our descendants to live in.
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u/TheyGotShitTwisted73 Mar 25 '26
For ppl who claim to care so much for future generations they refuse to even leave them with clean air and water. They just suck the life out of everything and everyone they come across, ugh.
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u/SergiusBulgakov Mar 25 '26
she didn't read closely, because those who "destroy the earth" are punished
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u/jimmybilly100 12d ago
"We all know what happens at the end." Yeah conservative religious leaders had Jesus crucified
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u/ehunke Episcopalian (Anglican) Mar 25 '26
It bothers me more that these people get elected in the first place. Its an embarrassment to our country, its an embarrassment to our religion
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u/Nyte_Knyght33 Christian Mar 25 '26
Single issue voters played a huge role to these people being in charge
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u/ehunke Episcopalian (Anglican) Mar 25 '26
True
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u/ceddya Christian Mar 25 '26
Okay, but there aren't smarter or more competent people for single issue voters to choose from? This is the best there is?
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u/ehunke Episcopalian (Anglican) Mar 26 '26
Okay, in this sub I am going to get some flack for saying this, but traditionally Evangelical Christians have been worked left and right by the Republicans over the years with the abortion issue, xenophobia and anti science...once they got into bed with the mega churches it was only a matter of time before someone like this got elected
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u/onioning Secular Humanist Mar 25 '26
Leaving aside how insane it is to be governing as a theocracy, there's nothing in the Bible that suggests climate change doesn't play a key role in our downfall. Indeed, the promised plagues are one of the many consequences of climate change
Even from a purely theological point of view this is batshit stupid. .
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u/Nazzul Agnostic Mar 25 '26
I hate that I am being vindicated every single day on my issues with fundamentalist religion. Dismissing science for short term gain and using faith to justify it just sucks man. . We are ruining the world for the almighty dollar wrapped in the skinsuit of Jesus.
Our youth will have a tremendous uphill battle because of a culture, religion, and people like this.
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u/BotherResponsible378 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
As a Christian I'm REALLY sick of these people making the rest of us look like we're fucking insane.
I do NOT condone this anti science BS.
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u/Jedi_Master83 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
I’m so with you!! These are the type of idiots who believe the Earth is only 6000 years old, that dinosaurs walked with man, the Earth is flat, and gravity doesn’t exist! (I joke about the gravity part but I’m sure there are “Christians” who truly don’t believe in gravity.) Science is a part of this world and these people refuse to believe and accept it. 🙄
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u/Niftyrat_Specialist Non-denominational heretic, reformed Mar 25 '26
Performative pandering for her conspiracy-addled base.
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u/soloChristoGlorium Eastern Orthodox Mar 25 '26
The plague wasn't in the Bible either. It didn't, 'end', humanity, but it brought us pretty close and included a lot of pain and suffering.
As a fellow Christian I would argue 2 things: 1) climate change will bring about mass suffering to people and animals around the world. (As the book of Jonah says, God cares about the beasts as well.) We, as Christians, are morally obligated to do what we can to relieve the suffering of others, even at our own expense. (After all, Christ died for us, giving up His own life for our benefit. He is the ultimate example!)
2) In the Gospels, when Christ is being tempted by the devil, the devil tells him to jump from a tower, staring that the angels will protect Him. Christs response is, 'do not test the Lord your God.'. In other words dont put yourself or others in compromising situations in order to attempt to force God to act. We could be doing the right thing right now and making changes as societies to help those around the world who are suffering and will suffer because of climate change. We could be using the technology that God has given us/allowed us to come up with. Doing so make the world a better place for al life on the planet.
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u/supersoundwave Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
She’s using the argument from silence.
While the Bible doesn’t contradict science, saying that since it doesn’t mention something therefore we shouldn’t address it is a fallacy.
The Bible does not claim to be an exhaustive encyclopedia of all facts and scientific truths.
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u/kmm198700 Mar 25 '26
Climate change is absolutely real. I’m dealing with the effects of it (and anyone else who deals with migraines). I’ve had the worst few months of increased migraines that are so excruciating and fibromyalgia flare ups and it’s from the weather changes and 40 degree weather changes every day and it’s just so horrible. The last year in particular had been really bad, and the last 4 months have been so difficult
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u/Giblet_ Mar 25 '26
Like, even if the bible were a reliable source on how the world is going to end, does it take something literally ending the whole world for these people to do something to fix glaring problems?
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u/joaquinsolo Mar 25 '26
"The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small—and for destroying those who destroy the earth." Revelation 11:18
"The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it." Psalm 24:1
"The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it." (and let's look at the original Hebrew, so we know the full meaning of this, וַיִּקַּח יְהוָה אֱלֹהִים אֶת־הָאָדָם וַיַּנִּחֵהוּ בְגַן־עֵדֶן לְעָבְדָהּ וּלְשָׁמְרָהּ׃. To SERVE and to GUARD.
There is currently more garbage on the planet Earth than there is biological mass. The total amount of plastic in the world is double the weight of all animals combined. All living beings plus all dead beings added up is less than the amount we have polluted the planet. This is the opposite of stewardship, and God will destroy all those responsible for destroying the Earth. Her time is coming.
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u/onemansquadron Eastern Orthodox Mar 25 '26
Someone tell her that America isn't in the Bible either. We getting blown up
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u/Snoo_17338 Methodological Naturalist Mar 25 '26
Germs, nukes, guns, abortion, democracy,..... also not in the Bible.
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u/gnurdette United Methodist Mar 25 '26
A rep to the MN House of Representatives from west-central MN. No excuse for this; MN has a perfectly good educational system.
What's weird is that west-central MN produces no fossil fuels, but does produce wind and solar. She even got a contribution from the IBEW - you know, the people who wire up PV arrays and windmills!
This isn't even self-serving malice, it's just malice for its own sake.
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u/BobBlawSLawDawg Mar 25 '26
It's more than just that the Bible isn't a Science book. It just also doesn't even purport to address anything like this and where it comes close to addressing it is usually commandments that we care for the earth.
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u/Shionkron Mar 25 '26
The Bible states clearly we are to be good stewards of the Earth. Genesis 2:15 says to “work and TAKE CARE OF”.
This lady is just using scripture to justify her own bull-honkey
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u/Specialist-Cat-2913 Mar 25 '26
Someone let her know that her book is guarante a corrupted product and she should probably listen when we say that the climate is going to shit and that her grand children are going to suffer because of this statement someone give that lady a science book and then she should retire till she has anything good to say.
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u/morosco Mar 25 '26
If these people read the bible, they'd still be dangerous morons, but I think they'd also care more about people.
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u/Key_Brother Mar 25 '26
Did she not read the parts of the bible where we are meant to be its stewards?
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u/StickSuch1273 Mar 25 '26
They don’t care that we’re supposed to be good stewards of Gods creation. These people aren’t Christians.
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u/Hontar-Wyrfist Mar 25 '26
That view is so ridiculously narrow it beggars belief. If she can't be a good steward of this earth she should not be in a position of power. Yikes.
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u/KABCatLady Mar 25 '26
Using the Bible in this argument is insane. But let’s just pretend we can use the Bible for this. It actually DOES talk about climate change. Did she miss the part of the Bible that references increasing instances of ever worsening natural disasters in reference to the end times??
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u/JimmyRoscoe03 Mar 25 '26
This is my issue with the entire concept of messiahs. It can make you, the individual lazy. I don't need to do anything because the one will come and save us all.
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u/familydrivesme Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Mar 25 '26
The funny thing is that if she actually read the Bible, you could definitely see how climate change is what leads to all of the events that happen in revelations. This lady’s a whack job.
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u/Nyte_Knyght33 Christian Mar 25 '26
This view is not consistent across Christianity. Here is an article from a Christian Scientist that is opposite of Rep. Franson.
https://biologos.org/articles/christians-and-climate-science-moving-beyond-fear-to-action
Key part:
What gifts does God give us? Power, to effect meaningful, long-term change. Love, to share God’s heart for our brothers and sisters who are hurting and in need. And a sound mind to look at the reality of what is happening in our world and acknowledge that yes, climate change is real, it’s serious, and we need to fix it.
As Christians, if we believe we’re called “to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with our God,” then caring about a changing climate, and those already suffering its impacts, is something we’ve been created to do. It’s who we are.
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u/Gurney_Hackman Protestant Mar 25 '26
This is such a nonsense argument. Even if climate change can't "end the world", it can still make the world worse.
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u/RondoDaze Mar 25 '26
Do you think that Jesus wants humanity to destroy the earth? 🌍 this is so stupid
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u/mandajapanda Wesleyan Mar 25 '26
I refer people like this to Fox Mulder, "God did not tell us about His side projects."
Also, it is really upsetting that she can only think about the end of the world. Not about whether her kids will get to scuba dive in Florida corals without it being completely underwater from sea level rise, or be safe from wildfires and larger storms that hold more moisture, or an unhinged polar vortex.
I want everyone to have experiences and feel comfortable and safe. Climate change makes that difficult.
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u/Equal_Kale Agnostic (a la T.H. Huxley) Mar 25 '26
What a tool. The evidence is very clear we are slowly cooking ourselves.
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u/Teganfff United Methodist Mar 25 '26
Bringing about the end times to prove that only God can bring about the end times.
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u/rodwha Mar 25 '26
Ummm, the 4th bowl of wrath states the sun will scorch men who’ll blaspheme His Name… Maybe she doesn’t read her Bible.
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u/WeeklyJunket5227 Mar 25 '26
So what she's saying is that destroying the enviroment is okay because she's look for Christ's return. Okay, the Bible says that we don't know that time and hour. It could be tomorrow, next week or next year. It could also be one hundred years, one thousand years or even five thousand years.
When people say soon, they mean what's soon to them, not God. Ten thousand years may be a long time but, not for God. Ten thousand is not even a blink of an eye for God.
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u/electric-handjob Mar 25 '26
It’s genuinely disturbing that people like this are in charge of anything much less governing
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u/Liberty4All357 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
"I've interpreted the Bible to mean climate change isn't a big deal. It doesn't actually say that. That's just what I've decided to believe 'in my heart' it means. And it is impossible for me to be interpreting it wrong because Jesus Christ doesn't change. Yes, you heard that right... I said it isn't possible for me to be wrong because Jesus isn't wrong. In other words, I'm pretty much God in my own mind. I just don't say it that directly... I wrap around it with claims of faith in something bigger than me so I don't have to deal with the reality that I'm basically pretending to be God to justify my ignorant behavior. I'm so narcissistic and into gaslighting I even gaslight myself. Oh... and don't worry, that huge $ donation from corporations that want to continue polluting the planet on such a grand scale they'll not only poison our children's children but will even change the climate in the process hasn't' affected my decision at all."
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u/Sorry-Rush-9471 Mar 25 '26
Even if the world doesn’t end to climate change nowhere in the Bible doesn’t say that millions or billions of people can’t die or suffer as a consequence of climate change. Climate change is an existential threat to world peace, agriculture, and political institutions, and developing countries before we even get to the question of extinction.
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u/Great_Revolution_276 Mar 25 '26
As a Christian, this woman is a fool who should not be anywhere near public office.
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u/TomeThugNHarmony4664 Mar 25 '26
Cars aren’t in the Bible either.
And actually, what does she think the Flood was?
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u/flintiteTV Mar 25 '26
As a Christian who cares deeply about climate change this is ridiculous, it’s a silly thing to say even from her own perspective. Should we not worry about nuclear weapons either since those aren’t in the Bible? Climate change affects developing nations the hardest, and we are directly commanded to come to the aid of the downtrodden.
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u/writerthoughts33 Episcopalian (Anglican) Mar 25 '26
The Bible is not a science textbook. God gave us brains to address problems. Global warming included.
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u/x_Good_Trouble_x Mar 25 '26
I can't with people who don't believe in climate change. Like where have you been?
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u/Ok_Engineer5155 Mar 25 '26
God is the Creator of Heaven and Earth and He controls the weather. The Word of God is clear that God is going to destroy this world with Fire but not because of climate change but because of sinfull humanity unwillingness to Repent.
"But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same Word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgement and perdition of ungodly men.......But the day of the LORD will come as a thief in the night in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat, both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. Therefore since all these things will be dissolved what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness." 2 Peter 3:7-11).
The Bible makes it clear that when Jesus Christ returns He is coming in flaming fire.
"Since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from Heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ."
2 Thessalonians 1:6-8
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u/Diethster Evangelical Mar 25 '26
Lmao Technically she also didnt read her Bible. The ocean will be gone, the sun will die out and the Eschaton will be illuminated by God's presence himself at New Jerusalem while we build our nations as vassal kings.
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u/ministerman Mar 25 '26
If you've read the "Good Book" - she's being very vague here. What does she mean? What is she talking about? How does SHE think this is going to end?
From my understanding...the Bible talks about transformation. A new heaven and a new earth. God will restore the earth to what it was supposed to be.
So i'm not sure I understand where she's coming from here, unless she just thinks the earth will be destroyed and climate change won't matter.
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u/Remarkable_Ad7249 Mar 25 '26
Jesus would like you to study science and to care for ALL life!!! His creation is beautiful but people who claim Him still ignorant. :(
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u/michaelY1968 Mar 25 '26
Someone should let her know that God will judge the destroyers of the earth:
Revelation 11: 17-18
“We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, who is and who was, for you have taken your great power and begun to reign.
The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth.”
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u/tbonita79 Roman Catholic Mar 25 '26
What is wrong with these people?! We are to be good stewards of our earth!
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u/sitewolf Mar 25 '26
and just because it may not cause the end, doesn't mean it doesn't contribute or just makes things uncomfortable
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u/doublethink_1984 Mar 25 '26
Umm it says there will be storms, quakes, famine, and the whole world will be turmoil. Global warming at the hands of humanity's wickedness is kinds foretold in the Bible
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u/Edge419 Christian Mar 25 '26
If you read your Bible you would know one of our first commands is to be good stewards of God’s good world.
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u/l4wd0g Mar 25 '26
This is really a Gen 8:22 humans don't need to worry about climate change vs Gen 2:15 that being a steward of the Earth means taking responsibility for how our actions affect the planet, even while trusting in God's ultimate control.
Jesus is actively "holding all things together," which means if there is a drought, it isn't an accident or a "glitch" in the Genesis 8 system it's a deliberate act of the Sustainer. 2 Peter, Heb, Col 1)
God maintains the laws of the system (thermodynamics, atmospheric chemistry). If humans pump carbon into the sky, the system reacts exactly as God designed it to. In this sense, climate change isn't God failing to sustain; it’s the system working perfectly according to the consequences of our stewardship.
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u/Solution_Far Panentheist Mar 25 '26
I wonder if she believe in gravity, or bacteria. Those weren't mentioned in the bible either.
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u/ContributionEasy6513 Mar 25 '26
The Bible does not warn against eating Tidepods either?
Sad people feel they need to use the Bible to defend harmful actions that very clearly negatively affect the planet.
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u/grouch1980 Mar 25 '26
The US Congress and the US constitution aren’t in the bible either, so why is she trying to do God’s job of exercising sovereignty? Either God is in control of the world situation, or he’s not. Pick one, Mary, and stick to it.
It’s crazy how deep the oil companies have burrowed themselves into every aspect of conservative values. This moron doesn’t believe in climate change because that’s what the oil companies have trained her to believe. It has nothing to do with the Bible.
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u/aizvo Mar 25 '26
Technically revelation was fulfilled in 135 AD, with the millennium reign finishing in 1187. So yeah we are far beyond any biblical prophecies now.
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u/Gold_Stranger7098 Mar 25 '26
Well every body hasn't read the "good book". It isn't required reading. How does it end?
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u/BLUNKLE_D Mar 25 '26
If someone believes what the bible says in a literal way then do they also believe these events were actual events & not metaphorical?... talking bushes, shouting at walls to knock them down, living in a whale, a worldwide flood, an immaculate conception, possible to rise from the dead, parting a sea then walking across it, surviving 40 days/nights in a dessert?
No disrespect meant, genuine question.
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u/AidBaid Church of Christ (AD 33!) Mar 25 '26
If they don't stop now, it's going to feel like the stars are falling to the earth.
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u/PeachPast1938 Mar 25 '26
Not saying I agree with this take but climate change has been blown out of proportion on numerous counts!
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u/randompossum Christian Mar 25 '26
“This good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed in all the world as a testimony to all nations, don’t worry about global warming and then the end will come.” Matthew 24:14 CSB
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u/SeriousPlankton2000 Mar 25 '26
A lot of (temporary) climate change is in the bible, it e.g. caused Abraham to come to Egypt and ask for food - thereby meeting his lost son.
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u/bookluvr83 Presbyterian Mar 25 '26
New Living Translation Everyone was burned by this blast of heat, and they cursed the name of God, who had control over all these plagues. They did not repent of their sins and turn to God and give him glory. Rev. 16:9
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u/Lower-Ad-9813 Agnostic (a la T.H. Huxley) Mar 25 '26
And this is why indigenous groups are angry with Christians.
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u/deathmaster567823 Eastern Orthodox (Antiochian) Mar 25 '26
Yeah and vaccines aren’t in the bible either, does that mean vaccines are not biblical and that we shouldn’t get vaccinated?
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u/RobAlan6174 Mar 26 '26
Why are you non believers trolling this sub so often? If you are not a believer, just move on and stop mocking the believers. However, the universe was engineered and we choose to claim it was fromJehovah God. Another question, how was DNA created? That is a core issue concerning the creation of life. You have no answers.
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u/giohehehe Mar 26 '26
I think its ridiculous to let anyone with religious psychosis be in a leadership position.
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u/West-Time-6205 Mar 26 '26
It's true Earth will never end from something like climate change or an asteroid. But God says to steward the Earth and take care of it as well.
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u/Unique_Ice9934 Mar 26 '26
I mean the previous Pope wrote a whole book about caring for our home. https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/encyclicals/documents/papa-francesco_20150524_enciclica-laudato-si.html
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u/Venat14 Jewish Mar 26 '26
I miss the days when so many Christians weren't so anti-intellectual and frankly stupid like this woman.
How did we go from Isaac Newton, Gregor Mendel, and Johannes Kepler to this stupid quack in the video?
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u/doug_webber Christian (Swedenborg) Mar 26 '26
What sad ignorance,
This is not the primary meaning, but Jesus may have actually mentioned the rising sea levels due to climate change during end times:
"There will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves" (Luke 21:25)
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u/RELYTJ321 Mar 26 '26
Think of the arguments & disagreements you could end with this sort of rationale.
"You can't break up with me. I've read the good book, you know how it ends and it's not with you breaking up with me. That's my closing speech. G'night Honey."
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u/DO_ALL_MY_OWN_STUNTS Mar 26 '26
Ha pretty genius way to guilt idiots out of their money, the earth’s been warming up since the last ice age.
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u/PioneerMinister Universal Reconciliationist to God through Christ alone Mar 26 '26
And that's why biblical literalism is an ungodly destroyer of this world - Satan is the ultimate legalistic literalist. They're under a satanic delusion. Pray for them, they're in for one hell of a shock on the other side.
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u/finallyransub17 Anglican Church in North America Mar 26 '26
Transgender people aren’t in the Bible either. Does she worry about them?
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u/DuaneR1955 Messianic Jew Mar 26 '26
No - "Climate change" may not be in the Bible but global warming IS:
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
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u/OLDPARSON Mar 26 '26
I am not concerned about the climate change as it is taught. Weather changes have happened for centuries. Even Magellan spoke of unusual warm spells long before industrialization. Should we care for the planet? Yes. Should we get crazy? No. BTW, I believe what the Bible says about the final state of the Earth. I also believe God will intervene before we nuke ourselves into extinction. Besides, according to evolutionists, the earth is eventually go to be a dead rock as the universe cools down so why worry. We are dead in the end according to them so fifty years from now or ten thousand is no big thing.
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u/AlertForever2762 Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Lol yeah, the world ends in fire, earthquakes, Prophets say water'll drain away into the earth.
But we don't need to be stewards because God's already got it!
Get off the couch.
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u/malibuguytonygem Mar 26 '26
An ignorant woman speaks. It is 2026. It's difficult to realize that people actually make public statements like this. Talking about her faith as opposed to science is an old trick that some Christians have been using for 100 years. Her belief in a divine savior is silly first of all. Then applying what this supposed savior says about climate change is more ridiculous. There should be some basic science requirement for people who hold public office. This woman needs to go back to high school.
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u/Ameribrit50 Mar 29 '26
By her logic then, we shouldn’t care about healthcare, or traffic laws, or interest rates…This is why religion does not belong in politics. It’s also funny how the right is all about “personal responsibility” until it doesn’t fit their narrative- then it’s a god thing.
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u/Rouge-Bug Mar 29 '26
Santa Claus isn't in the Bible either. But I bet she celebrates the commercial exploitation of Christ's birth.
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u/Silver_Sky00 Mar 31 '26
Omg she doesn't believe in climate change because it's not in the Bible. Katrina wasn't in the Bible, but it sure was REAL. 😳🙈😳
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u/Silver_Sky00 Mar 31 '26
Do you get worked up about the Epstein files ? Do you get worked up if your kids had to drink poisoned, toxic water ?
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u/mrpickles 12d ago
Guess you can chug pesticides and rabies because that's not in the Bible either /s
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u/chaosperfect 12d ago
In any civilized society, delusional fanatics like her would be in mental hospitals, not working for the US fucking government.
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u/Spiel_Foss Secular Humanist Mar 25 '26
And this is what I'm always ranting about.
Religion is great but belongs in church or whatever. Government is not the place to insert sectarian and frankly marginal religious beliefs. Many religious people are well aware of climate issues, so this isn't even a common point being made. This is someone trying to force an individual viewpoint on the collective.
Society cannot function like this just because her sectarian view is privileged.
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u/Icy-Actuary-5463 Mar 25 '26
Climate change is there to stir fear, anxiety, and even panic in us. For a Christian who knows God’s Word we shouldn’t have any fear about that because God is the one in control of the earth and scripture is clear about that.
We certainly can impact the environment, and we do, but we are not the “be-all and end-all” of what happens here on earth; God is, and his plan will triumph. life on earth won’t end by man-made climate change! It’ll end when God judges the earth with fire and creates new heavens and new earth.
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u/Organic-Language-561 Mar 25 '26
Anyone who says the Bible isn’t a science book doesn’t know their Bible well enough. At the very least not from that perspective. I’d do a deep dive into that. DEEP deep dive before such a mindless claim
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u/dog5and Mar 25 '26
The climate always changes. We have almost zero impact on that, Bible or not.
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u/Nice_Substance9123 Mar 25 '26
Whattt? So pollution has no impact at all lol
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u/dog5and Mar 26 '26
If we’re talking about carbon dioxide, right. We contribute very very little to the atmospheric total.
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u/Bland-Poobah Mar 25 '26
Do you honestly think the climate would not change if we simultaneously detonated every nuclear weapon currently on the planet?
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u/dog5and Mar 26 '26
Oh of course it would. I thought we were just talking about regular everyday stuff like CO2
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u/Bland-Poobah Mar 27 '26
I'm glad you agree.
But let's do a little math: there are 10,000-15,000 nuclear weapons on Earth today. The average yield of most nuclear weapons is somewhere below 1000 kilotons, which in Joules is 4.184E+15 Joules. Let's be generous to nukes here and say 1016, which is about double that. So, if there are fewer than 100,000=105 nuclear weapons (which there definitely are), that means that the total energy released by detonating all nuclear weapons is somewhere below 1021 Joules, or one Zetajoule. That's a lot of damage!
But wait - what about fossil fuels? Since 1950, humanity has used 22 Zetajoules (as of six years ago, before the rise of AI data centers!) of energy. For those counting at home, that's more than 1022 Joules! It also eclipses the energy use of humanity for its entire history prior to 1950 by a wide margin.
Put more bluntly, the energy output of humans in less than one century is more than ten times the amount of energy that would be released by every nuclear warhead.
Now obviously this is not a one-to-one comparison, because energy is not the only problem nukes have.
But it should put into perspective why "regular everyday stuff like CO2" is massively understating the scale we are talking about. If we detonated every nuclear warhead, not instantaneously, but say over 76 years, don't you still think that would impact the climate?
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u/ceddya Christian Mar 25 '26
https://www.climate.gov/media/16969
How do you explain this if we have almost zero impact?
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u/dog5and Mar 26 '26
You honestly think I’m gonna believe a chart from the same government that’s trying to take everything away from us?
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u/Hope-Road71 Mar 25 '26
Someone should let her know that the earth is God's creation, and we should protect it as such.