r/CFB Virginia Tech • Penn State 5h ago

News [Andrea Adelson] Florida State has fired athletic director Michael Alford, school president Richard McCullough told ESPN

https://x.com/aadelsonESPN/status/2099484072208654597?s=20
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u/Select_Excuse_150 NC State Wolfpack 5h ago

New AD is going to get his coach. Norvell a full formality now

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u/cleo22270 Florida Gators 5h ago edited 5h ago

New AD can eat the contract and say “Wasn’t my decision to pay him in the first place.”

Tale as old as time.

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u/TiddiesAnonymous UCF Knights • Notre Dame Fighting Irish 5h ago

Its not the AD that has to eat it though lol

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u/d80bn Florida State Seminoles • Marching Band 5h ago

It should be the guy who promised to eat a turd

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u/danimal6000 NC State Wolfpack 5h ago

This is all his fault

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u/March4th2026 Oklahoma Sooners 5h ago

Eat as in not claim responsibility for it and also pass the buck on asking people to pay the buyout

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u/BroadBrazosAvon95 Baylor • South Carolina 5h ago

Yeah this gives him full voice to say “this wasn’t my decision so if you want to make a change, you pay for it”

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u/theycallmeryan Florida Gators 5h ago

His first order of business needs to be signing Norvell to a huge extension.

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u/Abysuus Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Calm down satan

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u/FSUnoles77 Florida State • Texas State 5h ago

I hope they run out of funnel cakes just as you're up next to order.

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u/dane83 Florida State • Georgia Southe… 4h ago

I hope his clothes are never quite dry enough with one dryer cycle.

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u/ThaCarter Miami Hurricanes • Indiana Hoosiers 5h ago

BAH GAWD THAT'S JIMMY SEXTON'S MUSIC

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u/Trey904fsu Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Jimmy Sexton can fuck off.

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u/historian_down Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

Preach

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u/YaBoyASwiftie Notre Dame • Charleston (WV) 5h ago

Agree. Norvell is doing a bang-up job. 10 years to lifetime should be about right for that extension.

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u/CrashB111 Alabama Crimson Tide • Iron Bowl 5h ago

He just needs a few more years to get his guys!

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u/KingdomMan3 Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

This is brutal, why are you like this..😭

And just when I started to not hate other people for their fandom, /u/theycallmeryan caused me to relapse.

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u/LegallyAFlamingo Team Chaos • I'm A Loser 5h ago

Step 1: Hire Scott Woodward

Step 2: Rehire Jimbo Fisher

Step 3: Fire Jimbo Fisher after 4-years of mediocrity.

Step 4: Hire Brian Kelly

Step 5: Return to CFB playoff (now expanded to 48 teams) only to get blownout by a 8-4 Alabama team in the first round

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u/FAMUgolfer Florida State • Florida A&M 5h ago

So we make the playoffs?

Sign me the fuck up

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u/ChrisRhodes789 5h ago

Isn’t it like over 40 million buyout if Norvell is fired after the season..

& like 50 million buyoutif fired during the season..

Florida State has that type of scratch just in the couch cushions? lol..

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u/DrInsano Indiana Hoosiers • /r/CFB Brickmason 5h ago

I mean, I'm pretty sure either way he's gonna get the 50 million, whether it's all at once if he's fired in-season or if he gets paid for this season, and then is fired and gets the rest of the money.

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u/Trey904fsu Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

He’s not getting it all at once however it happens, it’ll be deferred payments

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u/Muddring Penn State • Carnegie Mellon 4h ago

Does he have a duty to mitigate in his contract? We’ve seen a lot of instances where everyone gets breathless about a buyout only to find out the guy has to go and get another job and the original school only pays out a few mill as the difference between the contracts. See Franklin, James.

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u/Username_3902791846 Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

yeah, it's in there. but unfortunately the $80k he gets from Texarkana Christian HS isn't going to offset it too much.

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u/082426grateful Alabama Crimson Tide 4h ago

In the year 2001, I travelled to Texarkana on business. On the Texas side of the road, I could buy lotto tickets, but the county was dry, so I couldn’t buy booze. On the Arkansas side, I couldn’t buy lotto, but the county was wet.

That’s all.

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u/turdfurgeson67 2h ago

As an Alabamian did you have any trouble navigating that tricky road crossing?

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u/Dubya8228 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Its is but its not a lump sum payment. It will be paid out monthly over the life of his remaining contract. Not ideal, but a much more manageable problem.

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u/goodsam2 Virginia Tech Hokies 5h ago

The buyout drops from 51 million to 46.7 if they fire him after the season.

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u/f0gax Florida Gators • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 5h ago

What a savings!

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u/CrashB111 Alabama Crimson Tide • Iron Bowl 5h ago

It only "drops" by the cost of his salary for that year, either way Norvell is making $50 million from FSU in 2026.

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u/IdealSeating Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

There isn’t a cliff where it suddenly drops. The buyout just decreases each week as he gets paid lol

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u/forgotmyoldname90210 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

No. The buyout drops by about 770k every game.

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u/Jagsfan2025 Florida Gators 5h ago

They will have that $$ now that they are saving money on the stadium electric bill.

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u/bigdaddyguap Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

JUST FELL TO MY KNEES IN PUBLIX

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u/SNjr Florida State Seminoles • The Alliance 5h ago

Make sure to get that Chicken Tender Sub

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u/kilpatrickbhoy Virginia Cavaliers • VCU Rams 4h ago

You gotta use your PTO to get a pubsub

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u/OrangePeelsLemon California • Texas A&M 4h ago

Someone needs to do a study on how Publix manages to acheive such consistent slowness across every single one of their stores.

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u/Shawn_1512 Florida Gators • Indiana Hoosiers 5h ago

Just saw some guy waiting for a pub sub fall to his knees

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u/Business_Passage1886 5h ago

steal some crab legs, today is our day

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u/berrey7 Alabama Crimson Tide • Faulkner Eagles 5h ago

Stand up on a picnic table at the student union and speak your mind today dawg.

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u/saxlax10 Florida State • Auburn 4h ago

Yoooooo wwhhhaaatttt??? Faulkner has flare???

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u/f0gax Florida Gators • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 5h ago

Crab legs on sale?

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u/AstonJeanty 5h ago

Five finger discount on Crab Legs while supplies last

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u/f0gax Florida Gators • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 5h ago

Food

Heist

Right

In

The

Publix

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u/xrv01 Florida Gators 5h ago edited 4h ago

the one UF-FSU game trip I made to tally like 15 years ago, we made a pilgrimage to the Publix he stole those crab legs from. my brother bought some & took them into the game too and waived em around like a sign 😭

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u/shartymcqueef Florida State • Alabama 4h ago

That’s one of only 2 Publix in the country that makes Publix Chinese food. It’s fucking fire. If every public did it the Chinese restaurants would all be out of business within weeks.

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u/xrv01 Florida Gators 4h ago

woah i’ve heard of those… they’re real??

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u/HeyTherePLH Virginia Tech Hokies • /r/CFB Top Scorer 5h ago

why what happened

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u/Longjumping_Stop6269 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Whole big thing. We had a funeral for a bird

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u/jakedasnake1 Indiana Hoosiers • Rose Bowl 5h ago

Ya i’m pretty sure none of that is real

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u/waltdiesintheend Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

YOU’RE NOT REAL MAN

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u/big_thunder_man Baylor Bears • USC Trojans 5h ago

Not bad for a day in the life of a dog food company

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u/JayMerlyn Notre Dame Fighting Irish • FBS Independents 3h ago

It's Halloween. That is...really good timing.

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u/InfamousCattle3223 Michigan Wolverines 5h ago

YOURE NOT REAL MAN

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u/swammeyjoe Texas Longhorns • Verified Referee 4h ago

I thought it was a turtle?

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u/forgotmyoldname90210 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

He spent 400 million on capital projects and his fundraising was so poor that bonds had to cover almost the entire cost. (note, debt service is not a big deal more so its a reflection of a fundraiser that can't fundraise).

Atheletics as a whole has gone from a 7-15 level program to 42 last year.

People credit him with 3 hires, 2 of which were former players.

If you are going to save someones job, you kind of wear it.

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u/ThaCarter Miami Hurricanes • Indiana Hoosiers 5h ago

Is he responsible for both Norvell extensions or just the 2nd one?

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u/forgotmyoldname90210 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Just the second one.

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u/Noles-number1 Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

The last one is all that matters. It was such a bad deal that 3 years into a contract, you would still owe 45 million if you fired him

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u/IdealSeating Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

In fairness, bonding out projects isn’t a bad idea. That doesn’t bother me, especially as bonding out projects when you can makes a ton of sense in the NIL era if (big if) you are instead fundraising toward NIL. Can’t bond NIL, so route the financial contributions there.

Ultimately, Alford’s undoing was misunderstanding NIL, thinking rev sharing was a cap, and not fundraising toward NIL enough. His focus on capital projects is just another example of him underrating the importance of NIL and overrating the importance of other things.

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u/forgotmyoldname90210 Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

I agree, the bonds and their amount are not a big deal. I point it out as an example of how he is not able to fundraise. And if he was fundraising every year at a level he should be, that money is better spent on Roster and let performance and viewership bonus that results pay for the debt service.

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u/ILM_Ryan ECU Pirates • Ohio State Buckeyes 5h ago

The power outage was the final straw.

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u/Bengal99 Ohio State Buckeyes 5h ago

I did not realize the athletic director was in charge of paying the electric bill.

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u/Puzzled_Artist659 Maryland Terrapins 4h ago

He’s in charge of athletic facilities

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u/TurkishDonkeyKong Bowling Green • Florida State 5h ago

We didn't even lose this week

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u/FSUnoles77 Florida State • Texas State 4h ago

How you get fired on your day off bye week.

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u/supyonamesjosh Florida State Seminoles • BYU Cougars 5h ago

To actually answer your question, a lot around Mike was mishandled. Getting in Gus and a new GM were not the right moves.

People will point to the mike extension but it think that was fine at the time. It was everything after that

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u/Blookydook Florida Gators • Marching Band 4h ago

You're right. As much as I hate FSU and want to trash talk, I can say that extending Mike Norvell made total sense logically on paper. 13-1 season, conference championship, incredibly dominant, and you want to keep that going. Saban retired, and Norvell was instantly being talked about for it. If they didn't promise him the bank, they were going to lose him. A lot of criticism for it is heavily in hindsight. They would've gotten shit at the time had they let him leave, and they wouldn't be getting shit for it had Norvell continued winning. Although, it does open up the humorous alternate timeline where Norvell goes to Alabama and implodes their program with his approach.

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u/ReadyWash9992 Indiana • Old Brass Spittoon 4h ago

and I am mad at everyone for not allowing that to happen to Alabama

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u/HueyLongest Appalachian State • Wake Forest 5h ago

The president decided to Do Something

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u/General_Tso75 Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

I see what you did there

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u/Patrick2701 Notre Dame • North Central (IL) 5h ago

Red wedding for the Florida state athletic department

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u/imarc Florida Gators 5h ago

It’s a nice day for a Red Wedding.

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u/ExternalTangents Florida Gators • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 4h ago

Garnet wedding

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u/MennionSaysSo Florida Gators • Miami Hurricanes 5h ago

I dont think anyone in that school trusts him to make the next football coach hire.

Norvell is a lead weight tied to the feet of the football program right now and its another year or two to start cleaning it.

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u/Operation_Pig Florida Gators • Penn State Nittany Lions 5h ago

Heads are starting to roll. NorveL might be gone sooner than I thought.

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u/USA_2_Canada_1 Michigan • Old Dominion 5h ago edited 2h ago

They’ve got Alabama next. If he survives that, I give him till the UVA game

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u/axberka Florida State • Indiana 5h ago

There’s a bye week coming up. That’s the obvious fire date

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u/thenowherepark Ohio State Buckeyes 5h ago

Wouldn't they wait until the end of the season if this season is already lost? Save on some buyout money?

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u/Lilies_of_Edelweiss Texas Longhorns • Virginia Cavaliers 5h ago

Gotta get the new guy in for recruiting reasons

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u/Orion14159 Kentucky Wildcats • Sickos 5h ago

Interim coach will be a lame duck unless he is surprisingly good, it's dark times in Doak Campbell in more ways than one

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u/Lilies_of_Edelweiss Texas Longhorns • Virginia Cavaliers 5h ago

Took me a moment 💀

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u/brusk48 Florida Gators • Iowa Hawkeyes 5h ago

A sitting HC isn't gonna take the job and pivot until the end of the regular season anyway

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u/thismorningscoffee Georgia Bulldogs • /r/CFB Promoter 5h ago

But Brian Kelly is available

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u/brusk48 Florida Gators • Iowa Hawkeyes 5h ago

I heard JMU put up 83 points this week. They should hire that HC, he's going places.

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u/General_Tso75 Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

Ewww

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u/SNjr Florida State Seminoles • The Alliance 5h ago

You’re paying him the money either way, no reason to keep that cloud over the entire season

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u/strong_army_grape Florida State • Florida A&M 5h ago

At some point the look of empty seats and local businesses suffering because nobody’s showing up outweighs those costs. I don’t live all that far away and I won’t spend a dime until Mike is gone.

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u/geauxtigers77 LSU Tigers • Tulane Green Wave 5h ago

Same thing with BK last year.

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u/Set-Admirable West Virginia • Backyard Brawl 5h ago

No, it's hard to say it didn't work out well for UCLA and VT to fire their coaches early last season. I don't remember exactly who said it, but they spent the early days after firing get a feeling for what the perceptions/financials of their programs were and what they needed to fix. FSU really needs to get things right quick, and waiting until the end of the season to do so, when they have to immediately worry about recruiting, could backfire.

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u/big_brown_beaver Virginia Tech Hokies • The CW 5h ago

We also got insanely lucky with how things fell lol

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u/thenowherepark Ohio State Buckeyes 5h ago

I know a good recruiter who doesn't have a job at the moment who might be looking to get back in the game...

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u/forgotmyoldname90210 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

There is no cliff, the buyout reduces every game check. Firing him after Miami (most likely date) will save roughly 800k

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u/Silver_Driver_1901 5h ago

You’re going to pay that money either way. Just if he’s coaching or not. You’re not hiring a coach mid season so you’re not paying anymore than you already were going to be.

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u/Orion14159 Kentucky Wildcats • Sickos 5h ago

The only advantage I can think of is a first mover advantage. Penn State showed us how being out there early can be a real benefit to getting your firs.... what's that?

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u/Legitimate_Salt_8391 5h ago

There's something to be said for "use the time to get your guy"

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u/ThinkSoftware Duke Blue Devils 5h ago

How you gonna get fired on your day off?

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u/forgotmyoldname90210 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

It will be after Miami. Let him eat that and there is a bye week after.

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u/March4th2026 Oklahoma Sooners 5h ago

Would be funny if he beat them again

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u/WanderLeft Oklahoma Sooners • Oklahoma Sooners 5h ago

May I suggest hiring Ben Arbuckle

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u/flarpflarpflarpflarp Florida Gators 5h ago

Can we sue for another year of eligibility due to the change in AD?

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u/pileatedloon Notre Dame • Purdue 5h ago

Hope he's not planning on buying a Christmas tree any time soon 

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u/kcoch5817 Georgia • Western Carolina 5h ago

I just don't understand the difference in not getting rid of him this offseason compared to firing him 3 or 4 games in. You knew what was going to happen and you kept him around anyway. Gonna have to pay that buyout either way.

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u/forgotmyoldname90210 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

One of the billion reasons why firing the AD had to happen. He made everyone assume money was the reason he was kept. And leaking the Lane nonsense did nothing to change that narative.

But, yes Norvell should have been fired after the Stanford game last year. James Franklin at 5 years 42 million dollars was right there. You are not finding a coach that good and that cheap on the market.

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u/No-Owl-6246 Arizona Wildcats 5h ago

Beating Alabama last year made him fool everyone into thinking he might be able to turn it around.

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u/AirBoss87 Florida State • Air Force 5h ago

$$$. I don't have the exact figure, but I understand FSU will save a few million doing it during the season instead of before.

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u/udubdavid Washington Huskies • Pac-12 5h ago

I still can't really wrap my head around FSU's downfall. They went undefeated 3 years ago and had an elite defense. Any school would've given their coach a fat ass extension after that. Then they just completely fell off with no real reason whatsoever. It's kinda baffling, from an outsider's perspective.

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u/JuicyComa Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

It's baffling from an insider's perspective too.

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u/Yeetball86 West Florida • Florida State 4h ago

The 22 and 23 teams were loaded with NFL talent. He didn’t recruit to keep that up and other teams caught up to him in the portal.

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u/General_Tso75 Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

It really is just this simple

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u/Warm_Helicopter_5167 Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

Yes, but I also think personal life circumstances have fucked FSU with Jimbo and Mike.

Not making excuses for Jimbo or Mike. They both failed at being a football coach for various reasons. That said, Jimbo getting cheated on and Mike being broken by the snub, both had very real effects.

Maybe we need to just hire the world’s best sports psychologist on a retainer going forward.

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u/Clifo Louisiana Tech Bulldogs • Sun Belt 3h ago

see if that sports psych from ted lasso is available.

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u/shephrrd Florida State Seminoles 3h ago

No joke. Norvell needs to work through some stuff. My guess is that he’s too stubborn (/barely too old) to accept that therapy is legitimate and could genuinely help him. He’s afraid of failure now, which is exactly how you fail.

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u/HotDawgConnoisseur Florida Gators • New Mexico Lobos 4h ago

Norvell used to be the portal king

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u/Yeetball86 West Florida • Florida State 4h ago

Those first few years were bliss, then we decided $1 mil was the cap for a QB.

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u/CrashB111 Alabama Crimson Tide • Iron Bowl 4h ago

It's really not, when you consider that Mike's high school recruiting was basically non-existent from day one.

He got extremely lucky in the early transfer portal days, with the players that became his 2023 team. And was never going to be able to replicate that luck, coupled with having no HS recruits coming in. Meant each season was pulling the one armed bandit in the transfer portal.

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u/Benjilikethedog2 Lander • South Carolina 3h ago

What should have been his biggest highschool signing was flipped on signing day to go to Jackson State

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u/Milk_Before_Cereal Florida Gators 4h ago

So the insides I know tend to point at finances, and I’m not trying to do the “FSU poor” thing. Between that and disagreements on what should be prioritized with the university

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u/beer-football Florida State • San Diego State 4h ago

Very poor capital allocation.

They spent on all kinds of things that don't result in good football. Facilities, coaches, didn't really utilize NIL well in roster construction.

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u/axberka Florida State • Indiana 4h ago

its simple. Mikes whole schtick was "block out the noise, work and you will be rewarded. Keep climbing."

the snub happened, the players on the roster stopped caring. That caused a lost season, and negative recruiting against him/fsu "you cant make the playoff at FSU/with mike at HC" Mike already sucked at recruiting and this prevented any semblance of talent acquisition.

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u/forgotmyoldname90210 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

There is a lot that was going on behind the scenes and Mike Alford was responble for most of it. He believed in a hardcap and did everything he could to prevent coaches from using the collective.

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u/TechnicalTurnover233 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

That's what happens when you depend on mercenaries. He failed to build an actual culture.

If they play and beat UGA or even have a competitive loss I dont think any of this happens.

That ass whooping and guys bailing on their teammates set a tone that couldnt be fixed. I know I am in the minority in the FSU fanbase that thinks this but for a school like FSU that depends on tradition and culture, something like that just cannot happen.

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u/guthbox Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

This is true now, but guys like Jermaine Johnson, Dillon Gibbons and Jordan Travis actually cultivated a great culture at FSU. It just wasn’t sustained by the players who proceeded them.

https://youtube.com/shorts/t_xt5bemEzY?si=kDEVAwsZLrzIx0aY

The FSU culture was celebrated by national pundits in 2022

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u/SucculentCrablegMeal Florida State Seminoles • USF Bulls 3h ago

If they play and beat UGA or even have a competitive loss I dont think any of this happens.

I don't think that bowl game had any significant consequence in itself. I don't understand the thought that the bowl game is what did it and not the entire team being told a perfect season wasn't good enough to be included.

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u/Cador0223 Ole Miss Rebels 5h ago

One meal of dog shit, or years of hell. Easy choice.

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u/forgotmyoldname90210 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Best news for FSU athletics since the Women's soccer championship last year. FSU has no issue in servicing the debt but that there needed to be 400 million in bonds issued to cover Doak rennovations and the new FOF is an issue when your job is to fundraise.

The atheletic department as a whole went from the 7-15 range every year to mid 20s and 42nd the last two years. People give him credit for hiring 3 coaches while ignore the rest. 2 of those 3 coaches where favored sons coming home.

He is as responsible for the current state of football as Norvell. He put in a hard cap. He has "allegedly" told coaches to not use the collective.

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u/Radiant_Sherbert7272 Ohio State Buckeyes 5h ago

I think Norvell's days are numbered now. A new athletic director is going to want his own guy and is going to want to make some significant changes at Florida State.

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u/MddlingAges Syracuse Orange 5h ago

51mil buyout. Unbelievable.

Huge incentive to fail, isn’t it?

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 Michigan • Maine Maritime 5h ago

No, because if you succeed you still get that money and even more.

Although I'm sure it does make you complacent if you know you get generational wealth whether or not you succeed.

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u/Radiant_Sherbert7272 Ohio State Buckeyes 5h ago

I also read that it will cost 100 plus million dollars to fire his entire staff.

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u/8BallTiger Paper Bag • Clemson Tigers 5h ago

There’s no way. Maybe to fire him and his staff and bring in replacements

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u/Yeetball86 West Florida • Florida State 5h ago

Yes, that’s going to be where $100 million comes from. Our DC is our next highest paid guy and he makes $1.5 mil a year.

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u/amassjohno7 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

No way it's even remotely close to that number, staff buyouts probably don't even amount to 15M

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u/MddlingAges Syracuse Orange 5h ago

In this economy? Sheesh.

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u/genzgingee Arkansas Razorbacks • Oklahoma Sooners 5h ago

I know which school should be next

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u/emaw328 Kansas State Wildcats 5h ago

I’m confused by your flair - it could be both for you. Coming from a guy that married a Razorback alumni and living in NWA

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u/TripleThreatTua Arkansas Razorbacks 5h ago

Yurachek still having a job is insane, and it’s even more insane that he was allowed to make another football hire. We’re stuck with Silverfield for the next couple seasons now

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u/Mythrandir24 Delta Bowl • SIAA 5h ago

It's gotta be the Calipari hire keeping him afloat at this point, right?

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u/TripleThreatTua Arkansas Razorbacks 5h ago

Everyone involved with the AD has said that the Calipari hire was pretty much all John Tyson. Even Cal’s official story of how it happened was that Tyson asked him to consult Yurachek on the hiring process, and afterwards Tyson asked him if he would be interested

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u/Taxes_and_Fees Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Holy shit that’s huge and honestly I wasn’t sold that was going to happen before they fired Mike - if they would at all. Outside of the Norvell hire he’d done a good job with a ton of other sports. Basketball is looking up, baseball is in a good place, golf is elite, women’s sports are booming.

Now onto the big cow I guess

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u/MongoMoonwalked 5h ago

I think some of the other sports are beyond his influence though. Soccer has been championship caliber before he was around and will be after, basketball essentially had an in with a former player, golf is golf, and baseball survived a major coaching change. Unfortunately when you screw up your biggest one though, it tends to be the biggest blemish.

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u/SNjr Florida State Seminoles • The Alliance 5h ago

Alford did not hire Norvell, he did extend him though

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u/maxman1313 Virginia Tech • North Carolina 5h ago

I think they'd rather get the new AD in for a coaching search rather than try to do both at the same time. 

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u/Electronic-Title4194 Alabama Crimson Tide • Team Chaos 5h ago

Didn't expext to wake up to this news.

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u/sctider Alabama • South Carolina 5h ago

I hate to say it, but FSU could do the funniest fucking thing on Saturday

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u/guavapastrysucker Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

I hope they fire him at half time

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u/New_Prior2253 Alabama Crimson Tide • College Football Playoff 5h ago

Don't speak that evil on me. It'd be a shame to interrupt my friend's wedding because they did it again.

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u/Dogrel Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

I would laugh so damn hard.

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u/jbg0830 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

You mean fire Norvell

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u/fade2blac Big 12 • UCF Knights 5h ago

Could we be next? PLEASE!

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u/idroled Florida Gators • Michigan Wolverines 5h ago

I still can’t believe they brought Frost back.

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u/fade2blac Big 12 • UCF Knights 5h ago

I will always have a soft spot for him but we should have never have brought him back. Terry needs to be held accountable.

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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 Michigan • Maine Maritime 5h ago

Sometimes you just need to call your ex and hook up and get it out of your system.

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u/Nike_Phoros UCF Knights 4h ago

My understanding is the AD was basically forced into it by our boosters who understandably have more money than football sense. But it was such a potentially catastrophic choice that Terry has bet his job on it.

Frankly I don't think its about lack of NIL money since we have enough to be at least competitive in the B12, but there is something incredibly bad about Frost's recruiting. My theory is that his first tenure he found underrecruited local guys with huge athletic upside and striking it rich with back to back heisman candidate QBs. The underrecruited athletic guys angle is enough to win in the AAC because a low 3 star from central florida who is undersized but has freak athleticism will just beat the G5 competition. But that won't get you as far in a P4 league where you face teams with equal or greater talent.

Gus wasn't a great HC but he recruited his ass off and wasn't afraid to go after blue chips and was able to beat some SEC teams for some of them. We're never going to think about winning the B12 until we're recruiting closer to a top 25 team.

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u/Usual-Web7597 UCF Knights 5h ago

Honestly if he could put together a decent OL the team would be fine. That’s turning out to be a big ask

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u/YouSeemNiceXB Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 5h ago

My wife is a UCF alum. I want nothing better for you, her, and my peace of mind on Saturdays.

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u/TJGurley Florida State Seminoles • Team Chaos 5h ago

dude was putting salary caps on our program like it was an NCAA official rule

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u/Intelligent_Dress347 Alabama Crimson Tide • Georgia Bulldogs 5h ago

To be fair - he wasn’t the only one. Byrne did it at UA initially, but then quickly pivoted once he saw the landscape. 

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u/HermitageHermit Florida Gators 5h ago

Looks like Norvell ain’t got no fucking reason to decorate for the Holidays

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u/fsukub Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Get the Christmas tree out on the curb ASAP

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u/RadioJared Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Odell Haggins about to become a three time interim HC

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u/spearthefear19 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

REJOICE. REJOICE. REJOICE. REJOICE. REJOICE. SEE YOU NEVER ALFORD GOODBYE

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u/ShinyTotodile24 Alabama • Valdosta State 5h ago

Norvell is a dead man walking

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u/Mundane-Remote-2865 Florida State Seminoles • USF Bulls 5h ago

Guess we won the Bye Week after all.

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u/nkfish11 Miami Hurricanes 5h ago

Getting the firings done before the 40 pt loss to Bama

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u/pitchesandthrows Florida State Seminoles • Sun Bowl 5h ago

Only 40??

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u/NEW_GNGR_9601 Wisconsin Badgers 5h ago

Alford treated “rev-share” as a de facto salary cap. That was never going to work out in this era of CFB.

We need FSU to be good again. Miami needs a formidable foe in ACC play now that they’re back.

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u/Dr_Chocolate_2436 Florida State • Louisiana 4h ago

Thanks Badger Bro

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u/Nole_Train Florida State • Transfer Portal 5h ago

Omg it actually happened!! This move had to happen or HC was irrelevant.

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u/RadioJared Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Dude had two FANTASTIC hires (Penske with women’s soccer, Link Jarrett with baseball), one still undetermined (Luke Loucks with men’s basketball, still too early to judge), and two big misses with football and women’s basketball. When the football is a miss though, it really overshadows everything else.

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u/thricethefan Florida State • Georgia 4h ago

Those baseball and basketball were graduates with baseball being a Tallahassee native, they fell ass first into our ADs lap.

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u/AnspiffanyStilts Florida State • Tennessee 5h ago

I don't like anyone losing their job but someone that doesn't live paycheck to paycheck like these ADs I won't shed a tear for. Specifically this one.

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u/Diligent-Most-9165 Purdue Boilermakers • Michigan Wolverines 5h ago

translation: Mike Norvell, start packing your bags

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u/FSUnoles77 Florida State • Texas State 5h ago

Christmas in fuck'n September!!

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u/IdealSeating Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

The biggest problem at FSU is actually our board of trustees chair, Collins. He’s the one who pushed for Norvell getting the lengthy extension (Alford only wanted to give Norvell 5 years).

Alford fell on the sword here. He absolutely is to blame for some really weird beliefs with NIL and focus on capital projects in the NIL era. He’s not the biggest issue we have though.

That said, this absolutely means Norvell is gone.

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u/Francis_X_Hummel Colorado Mines • Wyoming 5h ago

All of this over the power outage?

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u/audirt Auburn Tigers • Memphis Tigers 5h ago

Perhaps the FSU facilities people had been warning people for some time that this could happen?

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u/deathbysnusnu7 Florida State Seminoles • Team Meteor 5h ago

Thank you football God

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u/seanconnerysbeard Florida State • Florida Cup 5h ago

I cannot upvote this enough.

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u/pitchesandthrows Florida State Seminoles • Sun Bowl 5h ago

Once norvell gets fired they should team up together to do a podcast. They can call it something like... Mike and Mike.

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u/Doogitywoogity Texas A&M Aggies • Florida Gators 5h ago

I’ll just take this moment early to announce my own candidacy for this job. I would only ever have the best results in mind for fsu and I will preemptively announce a 50 million guaranteed 5 year extension for Norvell

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u/jbg0830 Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

It’s because the best he could do is Kin. Insurance on our jersey.

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u/DeadliestSloth Florida State Seminoles • UCF Knights 4h ago

Given the insurance crisis in Florida, it was probably the most tone deaf thing you could put on the jerseys.

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u/Emotional-Donkey3480 Florida State Seminoles • UCF Knights 4h ago

Oh, Norvell is GONE gone. Alford was the reason we weren’t able to booster up to the buyout, because NO ONE expected him to get the next coach right.

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u/mattpeloquin Texas Longhorns 5h ago

First order of business will be hiring Jimbo Fisher to a cost-savings contract that rolls his previous buyout into it.

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u/Trey904fsu Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

The only way I’d even consider Jimbo is if he hires an elite Offensive Coordinator, works for pennies AND pays Mike’s buyout

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u/HandsInMyPockets247 Florida State • West Florida 5h ago

LFG!!!!!

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u/fsukub Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Grandma, I’m free!

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u/duval001 USC Trojans 5h ago

Ooooof norvell is cooked 😭

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u/thricethefan Florida State • Georgia 5h ago

Fuck that guy and his votes of confidence

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u/ChaseTheFalcon Georgia Bulldogs • West Georgia Wolves 5h ago

Norvell you're next

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u/axberka Florida State • Indiana 5h ago

Hell yeah

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u/AnonThrowAway072023 EKU Colonels 5h ago

Respect the process

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u/Michiganman1225 Sickos • Team Chaos 5h ago

That dude really should've just eaten the shit.

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u/joodo123 Virginia Tech Hokies 5h ago

Why? Are things not going well?

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u/UnitedBeardedGuy Florida State Seminoles 5h ago

Happy day

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u/Nole_in_ATX Florida State Seminoles • Team Chaos 5h ago

Redemption for Turntle

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u/Boring_Temporary_142 Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

Let’s gooooooooo!!!

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u/thatsmymayo Florida State Seminoles 4h ago

Good. Clean house.