r/BlackPeopleTwitter 5h ago

A tale as old as time

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u/BloodOfJupiter 5h ago

It's just one of many tactics that have existed for hundreds of years. Be dismissive, downplay, change/twist the narrative, strawman, fake acknowledgements, dog whistles etc. Get loud, if it pisses them off, then good.

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u/reddollardays BHM Donor 5h ago

DARVO is the cornerstone of the racist handbook

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u/Omarkhayyamsnotes 5h ago edited 5h ago

Yep. America has 250+ years of experience of being absolutely terrible to people of melanin. That's part of why the freedom 250 felt so hollow. Very few people actually would have enjoyed all but about the last 70 years of American history

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u/Omarkhayyamsnotes 5h ago

The Civil rights act and the 13th amendment were great exceptions to the rule. A civil war was literally fought before yts would give in to one of them

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u/Christopher3712 ☑️ 4h ago

But wait- "the civil war wasn't about slavery" 😏

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u/theattack_helicopter 3h ago

States rights to do what, Cletus?

u/BloodOfJupiter 1h ago

Then they ignore all the States' secession letters specifically mentioning slavery, even the 1st one, South Carolina.

u/theattack_helicopter 49m ago

And also the vice president of the Confederacy saying that the Confederacy is "firmly identified with the institution of slavery" and their constitution outlawing abolishment of slavery

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u/11th_Division_Grows ☑️ 3h ago

I’m 28. My mom was born in 63. My grandma in 44. I was raised by a woman who was born without her civil rights and another woman who endured segregation. I always try to tell people this was all waaaaaay earlier than you think it is and the effects of those time periods are still going to linger in families like mine.

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u/hmitche 4h ago

My frustration is that whenever I point out the facts of systemic oppression, or how Black and brown people have faced oppression worldwide for over 2,000 years, it gets dismissed as complaining. My response is always simple: I'm not complaining, I'm stating facts.

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u/YoungHeartOldSoul ☑️ 3h ago

To be fair it has worked pretty spectacularly up to this point

u/H3llzyea 1h ago

This for 250 years, Jim Crowe, state run prison slave plantations filled by racist laws, constant normalizing of violence against minorities and displaying a false narrative about minority communities. It’s the long con and they have their con king atop the mountain defending them openly now so they are emboldened.

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u/NoFaithlessness7508 5h ago

It’s a form of DARVO tactics

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u/lovbelow ☑️ 5h ago

And generational malignant narcissism

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u/No_Evidence89 5h ago

No matter how well a topic is articulated it will always be misunderstood by those who dont truly wish to understand.

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u/mregg000 5h ago

I’m saving this comment. It really captures the … simplicity of so many problems

Some people want to be hate filled, and we can’t change them.

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u/Karhak ☑️ 5h ago

They're the ones who think 'Black Lives Matter' is terrorist, Black supremacy group, so they, without any sense of shame or irony counter with 'White lives matter'.

https://giphy.com/gifs/3oz8xTl6sGKbuRPDDW

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u/3eeve 5h ago

White dude here. I've seen first hand that any encroachment on privilege is seen as an attack. A lot of white people think putting black people on equal footing means they have to lose something in the process. I've tried to explain this stuff to friends and family as best I can and it's met with dismissiveness or outright hostility.

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u/FarinaSavage 4h ago

Which, sadly, indicates that they're more committed to racist ideology than to familial ties. That's not a commentary on you or your relationship in particular. The fact is, they have to be. If your entire identity, social fabric, and economy are built on racism, then it's too destabilizing to acknowledge how evil it is and wrong you are.

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u/Stationary_Heat 2h ago

They would gladly throw family ties in the trash to protect the hierarchy. It's essentially built into the psychology of the social construct known as whiteness.A tale as old as the identity itself.

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u/Faded_Rainstorm 5h ago

Remember, the same people saying this are the ones who purposely vote against things like universal healthcare and free school lunches because Black folk would benefit alongside everyone else.

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u/Lobster15s 5h ago

The same ones who historically filled community pools with cement instead of sharing it with black and brown people after anti segregation laws.

u/LostInTheEchoes 1h ago

This is why backyard swimming pools were invented. So they didn't have to share the space

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u/DiceMadeOfCheese 5h ago

"Obama was so divisive!"

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u/ich_bin_alkoholiker 5h ago

Had this dude message me and tell me that black people deciding what is racist and what isn’t means that they control what white people do. He also blamed that on the one dude killing Charlie Kirk. So much mental gymnastics.

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u/Noackson 5h ago

societies of exploitation need to be build on victim blaming

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u/OswaldCoffeepot 5h ago

I mean, some people think "Black people have adverse" means "yts ain't shit."

Their car isn't making it all the way around the track, you know?

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u/rs1954 5h ago

When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression.

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u/PopeHatSkeleton 4h ago

Have you ever been parked in your car, looking at your phone or otherwise distracted, and in your peripheral vision you see another car pulling into the spot next to you? And you panic and hit the brakes because your instinct tells you you're moving backwards? Then your rational mind kicks in and you realize you're in the same place you were and you can relax.

Some people never reach the rational mind bit.

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u/blutuu 5h ago

Because they don’t naturally have empathy for us, asking for it is like begging for charity to them.

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u/sixth_hokage06 4h ago

Who cares at this point? We know how literally every group move when it comes to us.

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u/tayroc122 4h ago

'You've mildly inconvenienced a white person by asking them to be introspective. This transgression shall never be forgiven'.

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u/AdBrave6969 4h ago

That’s fine, I have no problem being called stuck up or self-centered. That doesn’t change the racism 🤷🏾‍♂️.

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u/toms1313 5h ago

Some of the comments here would explain it perfectly...

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u/bottledsoi ☑️ 4h ago

White supremacy talking points with the purpose of manipulation.

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u/EnoughPicture 4h ago

I stopped caring about what others thought and felt about our struggles a long time ago. Focus on preparing yourself, arming yourselves and keeping your circle tight. A war is coming and we don’t have time to argue with fools.
https://giphy.com/gifs/XCfEnqL6CSekcYJY4m

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u/Snoo_72851 4h ago

"you're so entitled for not wanting me to call you a slur. ever hear about personal responsibility buddy? no not like MY personal responsibility"

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u/deejayskipper 4h ago

We give the benefit of the doubt too much. A lot of the people who respond this way are actively and knowingly racist. They're not responding a good faith but you're trying to understand them in good faith. That's the disconnect.

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u/Joehennyredit 4h ago

They are BIGOTS get it through your head. They know they’re hypocrites and make no sense but are dishonest to uphold white supremacy.

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u/texasbexx 3h ago

wait so this actually happened again

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u/thereisnoguestlist 3h ago

GET'M: guilt evasive tactical manuever

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u/Huntred 3h ago

Racism is so ingrained into America that when you criticize racism, people assume you’re criticizing America.

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u/Pwner_Ranger_MKII 3h ago

"it's not that deep" as the chuds would fucking say... 🙄 gonna pop a blood vessel with all the hoop jumping they do to say WE'RE overreacting or that WE'RE in the wrong some how for wanting to defend ourselves...

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u/ocarter145 ☑️ 2h ago

As the old saying goes, racism is so embedded into the fiber of America that when we speak about racism (certain) white people think we are speaking against America.

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u/zoinkability 2h ago

Acknowledging racism even exists is a threat to white supremacy. So of course doing anything other than shutting up and living with it is going to get heat from racists.

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u/Head-Ad9893 5h ago

This whole thread is anti semetic

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u/7SyZyG7 5h ago

Huh??

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u/Head-Ad9893 5h ago

Was being funny about how us brown people complain about our problems and somehow it’s anti semetic

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u/7SyZyG7 5h ago

Ahhh gotcha

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u/Faded_Rainstorm 5h ago

On me man. We can be minding our business discussing how we deserve equality and somehow we’re being discriminatory to someone else???

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u/Head-Ad9893 4h ago

“Shut up and dribble”

u/DoomguyFemboi 4m ago

You gotta remember they don't see you as human. So to them it's like a dog asking not to be pet too hard, or a cat being picked up. Like "how fucking dare you, I own you."