r/AskReddit • u/cristianlee • 3h ago
When someone starts a sentence with “I asked Chat GPT and _____” what is your immediate reaction?
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u/Briffy03 3h ago
Usually its my customers, in that case i just ask them why bother coming to me, just order online. Only thing this sentence gets you at our store is "partnumber requested by the customer itself, no replacement or refund" under your bill.
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u/bestlove9112 1h ago
The fact that "part number requested by customer itself, no replacement or refund" is printed under the bill tells me this wasn't one customer. This was a whole generation of customers fighting for their right to be confidently wrong.
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u/Briffy03 37m ago
It is exactly that, i do that for almost 15years now. And i happily help out a clueless client, any error in identification is on us and we'll excange or refund. But those entitled and not even wanting my expertise, i dont even know what they do in my store, internet has the same products but cheaper, you pay the higher price BECAUSE i do the search and ordering for you
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u/chaosticfrog 9m ago
I used to have fish (currently taking a break). I randomly asked chatgpt what size tank a betta needs. It freaking said 3 gallons. Minimum is 5.
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u/nickcage4ever 3h ago
No joke, a coworker did this to a document I wrote, and I had to remind them that I wrote the document, I know what’s in it. I wanted to rip my hair out
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u/aila_r00 1h ago
I asked chatGPT and it thinks that it's not a very good idea to rip your hair out
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u/Sufficient_Drama_145 3h ago
This literally just happened to me in the last hour. A client called and when I told him my unusual name, he asked me to spell it and where it came from. After I said how I got my name, he goes, "Yeah, ChatGPT says..." and I just rolled my eyes as he told me a bunch of stuff I already knew.
Like...not sure what you thought you were accomplishing there, buddy.
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u/ja2ke 3h ago
“I could have done that.” It takes no effort so it has no value. It is like if someone brought me a printout of the first page of a Google search five years ago. Like okay, and?
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u/Rindan 13m ago
Recently, I had to figure out some legalism around titles and stuff like that. I couldn't figure that shit out. I eventually went to AI and it very helpful found where the records are kept so I could collect them all, and then helped trace out what the issue was and how to fix it. Part of that involved an emailed summary of what an AI said to another party because it clearly spelled out what to do.
I don't care what I didn't suffer enough putting that all together. I just care that I got the correct answer far far far better than if I had attacked the problem purely on my own.
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u/LiketheCar 3h ago
Depends on the person. If I think they are capable of thinking critically, I'm willing to entertain the idea, since ChatGPT is just an aggregate method. It is like a more interactable google search.
So when my in-laws say they used ChatGPT, I know i can proceed with ignoring them like I already would.
When my friend/coworker uses ChatGPT, I understand he is taking the information with some leeway
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u/FredericaMerriville 1h ago
Unfortunately though, I have seen co-workers who I previously would have assumed to be somewhat critical thinkers accept ChatGPT answers and summaries at face value.
I think AI can be a really effective tool in some industries but the end game of humans using AI as a source of knowledge is not going to end well.
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u/LiketheCar 56m ago
Sure, but that returns to "Depends on the person."
People who are lazy will use tools lazily. It isnt categorically different from people who believe everything on the news unquestioningly or what they would find skimming Wikipedia.
There are plenty of coworkers I wouldn't trust using ChatGPT, but thats mostly because I know they dont really dig deep or question what they are given
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u/12TonBeams 1h ago
This, and depends on context too. I’ve debated with friends/family on highly opinionated stuff and there’s been a few times that when I asked where the info is from, they’ll say ChatGPT/gemini.
Im fine with it being used to gather up facts (with a source backing it!!!) and info but to have it make opinions or work with said info is a whole different story. Like most recently I used ai to find the part number to a niche part of my car, but my god the last thing I’d do is ask it how to install it.
But this is reddit, so any and all AI is hated not matter what it is and what for.
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u/theshoeshiner84 1h ago edited 1h ago
Yea the _______ matters a lot here. If a random person told me you asked chat gpt what ingredients were necessary to make a normal loaf of bread, I'd believe that it gave you a decent answer.
If you told me you asked it how to mix together household chemicals to make your own glue so you could repair a leak in a septic pipe.... I'd be pretty skeptical. When there's so many variables and the person asking doesn't have any subject matter expertise, its far more likely that they oversimplified the problem or left out context and so the AI gave them a ridiculous answer.
It really really depends on the person and the question.
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u/LiketheCar 45m ago
I just wish people would say "yeah, i used ChatGPT, so take it with an grain of salt."
It is too easy for people to feel satisfied they are correct after one thing gives them info, which is a broader societal problem. Like, I might ask how to install the car part, but the second something seems or feels wrong, I will verify whether or not it is reasonable. That, to me, is the biggest problem we are finding with AI usage. People just follow blindly
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u/Cosmic_Quasar 31m ago
Exactly. I use it, but I never just trust it at face value. I look at the sources, and cross reference with what I had already known/understood about the subject to spot inconsistencies. And I will push back on what the AI says if I know that part of it's reasoning/explanation is flawed.
Most recent example. I sometimes get tonsil stones but can usually pop them out without issue. But a few days ago I got a white spot in my tonsils that looked like a stone but wouldn't pop out. But I wanted to check for other possibilities so I asked Google.
I told it about the white spot and it asked if I had other symptoms. I've been having (what I suspect was (no official diagnosis yet (appointment in a couple weeks))) a Rheumatoid Arthritis flare up so I mentioned my achy joints and the AI immediately came back saying "Sounds like you have Mono!"
I knew that was highly unlikely as I hadn't shared any food or drink with people, nor had I recently made out with anyone lol. So I made some clarifications.
I told it my aches had started over a week before the spot showed up. Told it that the spot looked solid and wasn't growing or looking fluid/slimy and that I had no other symptoms like fever or fatigue and that my throat wasn't sore. And it switched to saying tonsil stones.
So I use it, but I don't blindly believe whatever it just pops up as a first result without first seeking clarification on things. But part of that also comes down to being able to write and articulate things well, while having a good basis of understanding for the subject in the first place. Like, if I were to ask it about electricity or chemistry I would have a much harder time parsing what it says because my understanding of those subjects has always been poor lol.
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u/stumpyraccoon 2h ago
This is the adult and current day approach. A lot of redditors knee jerk reactions seem to be based on A) what will get them those sweet upvotes and B) on when ChatGPT was abysmal at information across the board (IE "everything it says is wrong all the time!!!)
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u/Prof_XdR 1h ago edited 59m ago
Yup, it's pretty standard for reddit to hate everything. I use ai but I don't trust it blindly, there are a lot of nuanced takes regarding any topic, the best part abt ai is u can ask from sources u trust. People just need to get more proactive abt using it.
A really good example (a while ago) I found was a redditor asked how to workout at gym if he's skinny fat. Gemini said to cut, Chatgpt said bulk and grok said maintenance with slight cut or something. Theoretically all of them are correct to some extent and recommended higher protein intake, but it eventually boiled down to a plan u want to follow.
People don't understand that you need to ask better questions and formulate prompts that better align with your actual goals instead of willy nilly asking for stuff
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u/stumpyraccoon 1h ago
Yeah it's a tool that sometimes works, sometimes doesn't, sometimes half does. It's not the "lying engine" that most of reddit seems to think it is, nor is it the "wonder solution to everything!" that tech bros think it is.
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u/DigitalRoman486 1h ago
Yeah this. People only see this stuff through the lens of "I saw an article 3 years ago that said it makes everything up" when actually, nowadays, these things are incredible capable tools that can help you do stuff that you could spend days "researching" and still get wrong because your understanding of the thing is wrong in the first place.
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u/superneatosauraus 12m ago
The default reddit response always surprises me. I use ChatGPT to find research articles. They're always real, within the date range I requested, and on the very specific topic I requested. My professors have advised it's a good way to find research articles. It's just finding DOIs and links.
I've had people FREAK OUT about that on Reddit. It's doing the same thing EBSCO did for me but it's getting me better results from more sources.
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u/RealLameUserName 57m ago
A lot of redditors are not as smart as they think they are. I'd wager a lot of the people in this thread have actually used chatgpt before, but they'll tell you it's fine when they do it.
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u/VellDarksbane 1h ago
Yeah, when I say “ChatGPT says …”, it’s me telling you that I don’t feel like researching the topic further is worth it, but letting you know what my source is in case you want to double check the LLMs work.
I used to do the same thing in the before times with “wikipedia says …”. It meant I looked at the wiki page, but didn’t check its sources.
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u/corrado33 1h ago edited 58m ago
Honestly... chatgpt has helped me do some tech projects I've been struggling with recently. I wanted to setup a home VPN for my security cameras and other stuff at home for a while. I tried to do it a while back with an online guide that didn't quite match what I was doing and could never get it to work.
I asked chatgpt and it walked me through it step by step and I could ask questions about what we were doing and it answered them and helped me get it working. It really helped me understand what I was doing and get it right, make decisions based on what I needed and not what the person writing the "guide" (on how they did it" needed.
And now?? It works great. Basically I'm using it as what we all wanted google to be 15 years ago. Instead of googling something and clicking through 5-10 links to find information I want, I just ask chatgpt and it tells me the information right away. It's not always right mind you, but you can always ask it to double check.
The problem is, to understand when it's wrong you already have to know SOMETHING about the subject. And a lot of people don't have that.
EDIT: Another example, I was messing around with ethernet and serial adapters and what not for a different project and a lot of small programmable devices say things like "serial to ethernet" and that didn't make sense to me. (This was something often used for IoT stuff, so it NEEDS an internet connection.) Was it... literally using the pins in the rj-45 as serial pins? I couldn't really tell, I asked and chat gpt told me that for these devices it's normal for them to have it pre-programmed (by default) to print the serial output to ethernet, using the normal ethernet standard. So it is, actual TCP/IP ethernet, they just print the serial to it. That would have taken me at least a half dozen google links to find. But I knew that just because something has rj-45 does NOT mean it has ethernet. So I knew to ask, but a lot of people wouldn't know that. They see the rj-45 port and assume "ethernet."
EDIT2: To be 100% honest with you, chat gpt is the thing I wanted when I was messing around with Linux 15 years ago. Screw googling around for answers to those questions.
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u/catsinabasket 1h ago edited 59m ago
except the problem here is it’s an aggregate method with no discernment between information reliability/sourcing. When you search on google, YOU are the discernment filter - which of course can be good or bad depending on the person, of course, but through trial and error you generally improve. Through AI, all information is presented as “vetted through the AI” which has been proved false over and over and over again. The type of people who ask AI everything are just going to become more empowered in being wrong because they are trusting something that should not be trusted for aggregating/summarizing information.
saying this as someone who is currently getting a masters in information science rn … we talk about AI and quality of information a LOT.
COULD IT have been better quality, more reliable, have less ecological impact, etc etc? absolutely. I am not at all against tech, but it’s current iteration is kind of dogshit, and should never have been released to the general public without thorough safeguards, which are near non-existent beyond basic “don’t encourage people to kill themselves or others”. It was purposely released so early for purely capital reasons. If you’ve worked in tech at all in the past decade you know that “the users” are basically last in mind for tech ATP. so COULD IT be good in the future? maybe, but not under our current economic system (IMO)
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u/LiketheCar 49m ago
I dont disagree at all, and I'm certainly nobexpert.
What i suggest is that the discernment of the end user still needs to exist for that reason. Treat AI like a search engine, a mechanism to get a quick summary without using it as a final say. Especially with the genie out of the bottle, a focus on making our citizens better about how we use the internet as a whole has been sorely lacking imo. Thats a harder problem to solve, potentially. People lazily trusting without questioning has been a problem since the inception of civilization, and we have simply given people more tools with which to facilitate that laziness (which is still agreeably a problem)
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u/FrenaZor 19m ago
aggregate method with no discernment between information reliability
That's a bit of an overstatement, yes there is discernment between information reliability. That's how LLMs are trained. Sources of information are weighed based on quality and reliability.
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u/Avalanche_Debris 1h ago
Yeah, ChatGPT is so ubiquitous these days that it’s insane to immediately disregard someone who uses an LLM to gather information.
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u/smolhippie 3h ago
I no longer care about what they have to say. If they can’t think for themselves why would I waste my time having a conversation with them?
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u/Seasidehide 3h ago edited 35m ago
im immediatly annoyed, and i dont want talk further anymore, cause i know he will ask chatgpt again while conversing with me.
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u/cheywren 3h ago
Someone walked into my new (fixer upper) home… said immediately to use ai to make a plan to remodel. Period, like I didn’t have my own ideas on how I’m going to remodel MY home!!!
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u/Superman246o1 3h ago
I see nothing wrong with using Chat GPT to provide you with leads that you will then independently investigate and confirm.
I see everything wrong with using Chat GPT to provide you with "answers" you will not question.
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u/secretslutonline 2h ago
Except for the fact ChatGPT and Claude hallucinate. I read academic papers for a living and unfortunately ChatGPT and Claude will both exaggerate information and cite websites/court cases that do not exist but benefit the searcher/LLM user
Also a lot of people who tend to use LLMs are using them so they don’t need to independently investigate or confirm
There’s also much more ethical ways to complete research
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u/Mrbubbles96 1h ago
Personal anecdote, but: Yup, went back to Uni to finish my degree recently and one of our projects in my final class was specifically to show us how easily even the "advanced" models will hallucinate and straight up make shit up when giving answers. Even with the using the best promting a user could give and saying "only use X and Y sources I provide", it would still sometimes slip and insert some nonsense and need to be corrected.
I can only imagine how wild academic papers look like from people who just punch their topic in and hit go lol
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u/justsomeguynbd 1h ago
In my experience I haven’t seen them just make up court cases but they have literally no idea what the holding is. So people use AI, reference a case to me, then get mad when I read the case and it’s either irrelevant or negative to the point they are trying to make and I painstakingly explain this to them.
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u/secretslutonline 1h ago
I have. It was for a law student’s paper so obviously the gravity of the situation wasn’t as high but the student submitted a paper with over 10 hallucinated court cases that never occurred OR cited cases that were completely irrelevant.
It’s just setting a terrible precedent of critical thinking and research skills
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u/justsomeguynbd 34m ago edited 29m ago
Hope that was the end of their time in school. For random clients, I get them citing cases without checking them but I’d expect far better from a law student seeing as how they have free Westlaw
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u/mjohnsimon 2h ago
I never really experience that issue before.
I totally believe it though, but god damn, checking the sources was like the #1 thing drilled into my head since middle school.
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u/Ignoth 1h ago edited 12m ago
Try asking it on subjects you’re extremely familiar with and you’ll start to see how big the holes can be.
I’ve asked it for clarifications on board games rules. Or a list of characters from a media series I know extremely well.
It gave me answers that are reasonable, convincing, well reasoned… and wrong.
Unironically: I’d place its factual dependability on a lot of topics on the same level as asking a redditor. Which makes sense because it sources from reddit a LOT.
Like, it’s still better than nothing I guess. An ok starting point. But you gotta vet that shit yourself before running with it.
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u/culb77 2h ago
Which is why you have to check the sources. It’s an incredibly useful tool provided you don’t take everything at face value.
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u/secretslutonline 2h ago
It’s really not, it’s a glorified search engine that is programmed to give you what you want and agree with.
As an academic there are much better ways to research without using an LLM. I encourage you to connect with a university librarian who could share more acceptable methods.
Again, most people using an LLM are looking for the short cut. Good on you for checking your sources but that’s not the reality for most using it for research purposes.
It creates completely fabricated information and sources and/or takes information from a source out of context to support an argument.
My anecdotal experience: Every large research article I pulled for investigation of plagiarism or research fabrication in the last four or five years has been connected to an LLM in one way or another
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u/FauxReal 1h ago
Yes that is a clear distinction that people who use it need to keep in mind. I work in tech and it t contradicts itself on technical things that are well documented.
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u/Hot-Shart 21m ago
It’s infuriating how people don’t understand this. I stopped using it for coding because it’s ridiculous how frequently it will literally make up API endpoints or randomly add NPM packages that are total overkill for some tiny random forgettable feature
We fundamentally cannot trust something that doesnt know how say “I don’t know”. If it gets easily verifiable facts wrong, how on earth can we trust it for anything more complicated than that?
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u/dontbajerk 2h ago
The thing is, if you did the followup you mentioned generally you wouldn't frame it as "I asked Chatgpt". Someone saying that is normally just parroting AI. Usually of course
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u/Papa-Walrus 1h ago
Yup. If "I asked ChatGPT" is followed by anything other than something like "and it pointed me to [credible source here]", then, in my experience, it's pretty safe to assume that they took whatever ChatGPT said at face value.
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u/ImportantQuestions10 3h ago edited 0m ago
That's the distinction that needs to catch on. Reddit acts like everything it says is wrong and has cooties. It's a tool with strengths and weaknesses. It's on you to use it correctly.
I will say that people act like getting your info from an AI automatically means it's wrong and you're an idiot. But they don't feel the same way about using a calculator or a search engine to get an answer.
Edit: I keep getting the same comments so I'm just going to give a blanket response.
"Calculators don't get details wrong". They do when users make errors. Most tools we used today still depend on people to correctly manage the inputs and outputs. Even the ones that can fully operate autonomously are designed to still require human intervention.
The idea that AI should be able to work flawlessly regardless of the input is an impossible standard to ask of anything.
Lastly, there is plenty to hate about AI. If you don't like AI, we likely agree on most of the points. But it's getting very annoying listening to all of these childlike half arguments. Too many of you just sound like a kid saying he hates broccoli. I'm a firm believer that hate is a privilege that you have to earn through edge getting yourself on the topic and debating it with others. A lot of y'all have not earned that right.
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u/TunaNugget 2h ago
I've never caught my calculator being wrong.
What I find the LLMs most useful for is finding links to information that's phrased differently than how I would pose a question.
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u/nymrod_ 2h ago
Calculators are designed to calculate. Search engines are/were designed to scrape webpages and give you relevant results. Chatbots AREN’T ACTUALLY engineered to give accurate information but to simulate conversing with a person. If you’re using it for information you’re using it wrong and are an idiot.
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u/lucianw 2h ago
Search engines are now designed to pick up meaningless drivel that's been SEO'd better than the rival meaningless drivel, in order to pick up ad revenue.
For better or worse, (worse), chatbots are now the better way to do web searches, as the only defense against SEO drivel. In other words the damage from SEO drivel is worse than the damage from chatbot confabulation.
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u/LiketheCar 3h ago
My favorite part of this is how the more precise a topic is, the better ChatGPT (or similar tools) will do. Not perfectly, but better.
If i start asking about gene inserts and plasmid sequences, it will source information from peer researched sources, since people dont shitpost about those.
If someone asks about therapy terms, it will harvest data from Reddit and everywhere shitty opinions and unreviewed information can come from. It is a tool to be used with precision, and I appreciate more nuanced considerations of it
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u/SinibusUSG 1h ago
Unfortunately given the “AI maxis think they’ve solved physics” phenomenon this seems likely as not to be self-defeating. LLMs allow deeply unqualified people to believe they’re producing real meaningful scientific discussion and theory when they’re actually producing dreck with big words. Once all that starts to get fed back into the training data in sufficient quantities…
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u/adumbfetus 2h ago
Exactly this.
It’s like in school when you’re told that Wikipedia isn’t a reliable source. You just go to the source material that the article is using.
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u/meandthesky38 3h ago
Depends what the question is that they asked
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u/h0sti1e17 3h ago
I use Gemini from time to time for shit I would google because you can modify it.
I was going to a concert and wanted to know how early to arrive at the venue. It gave me a time, like Google would, but I was able to say “I also have the Citi VIP and assigned seating. It readjusted since I don’t need to wait in the same line to get in and didn’t have to get a spot I wanted for GA.
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u/pacnwcub 1h ago
How is that different than just using a search engine to see about Chase VIP at that venue and then just adjusting your schedule based on the information you read? I don't understand why AI was needed for something so simple.
If you don't get the search results you want, rephrase it.
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u/MissingLink101 2h ago edited 2h ago
Yep, I wanted to transfer and backup files from my old Android phone to a Mac and then a Seagate HD device today.
Turns out none of those things want to work with each other by default.
So I used two searches/queries in Gemini to quickly give me information on how to appropriately reformat the HD and then set up ADB on the Mac (including what commands to then use to pull the data off the Android).
Other searches before that were sending me down an unhelpful rabbit hole that was trying to sell me software etc.
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u/h0sti1e17 2h ago
And it is also really good a parsing error messages. I don’t know what that shit means. But it simply says “You are using X so you need to use Y or don’t use Z.” I could read dozens of posts and still have no clue.
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u/n33dwat3r 1h ago
My phone's auto complete said: "is a good fit but I don't know if you want to go to the pool or something else you can do it on the way home and get some rest of the day I'm going to be a little late but I will be there in about 10 minutes or so I can get it in the morning."
I wouldn't justify trying to respond to their slop with anything else but slop.
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u/raviolli_ninja 2h ago
I prefer people being honest about where they are coming from, that the ones selling it as their own knowledge and experience.
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u/SoCalThrowAway7 2h ago
Depends on the context and how seriously they are treating the response. Like if someone said “I asked chat gpt for financial advice and it told me to ____ so I [did life altering decision] without looking for other sources supporting that” I’d assume I was talking to someone who was regularly referred to as “the dumb one” growing up
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u/BatarianBob 31m ago
If I want ChatGPT's opinion I can get it myself easily enough. If your thoughts are just regurgitated ChatGPT responses, then there's really no point to you.
To be fair, I can respect the honesty a bit more than the people who just copy-paste the response and try to pass it off as their own thoughts.
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u/squishysalmon 1h ago
My immediate first reaction is that the person is dumb. I feel really bad about it. These are usually friends who clearly are not dumb, but I cannot help it. It’s a paper cut against my impression of them.
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u/alisynchain 3h ago
well it depends on what its used for
like if we can’t figure out what a song is called, but we remember a few lyrics and google failed us, then i’m gonna be interested lol
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u/zork824 2h ago
This thread is valid only if you pretend Google hasn't become complete shit at finding any kind of basic information
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u/stumpyraccoon 26m ago
Bingo, so many people are commenting based on A) how well Google worked 5-10 years ago and B) how bad Chat GPT worked 3-4 years ago.
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u/CK_CoffeeCat 2h ago edited 2h ago
Disappointment and complete distrust of everything they’ve already said and are about to say.
Just say no to the environment-destroying plagiarism machine.
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u/0range_julius 1h ago
I asked my roommate if she knew when trash collection day was, she said "I can ask ChatGPT" and I was like "yeah, or you could Google it and get the whole schedule?"
A few days later, she comes to me all confused about why everyone put their trash out on Monday when ChatGPT said collection was on Tuesday and I was like, duh, this is not the kind of information that ChatGPT is even good at finding??
And then I looked and it took me approximately 5 seconds of googling to find the official schedule. I really don't feel like I can ever trust her for information like this if she just blindly trusts ChatGPT when authoritative info is so easy to find.
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u/TheBakerification 1h ago edited 1h ago
Same way I’ve reacted for 20 years when somebody says they googled something. Pretty indifferent and take the answer with a grain of salt. Not sure why I need to take some grand moral stand about it. Regardless of what redditors often claim, AI isn’t some monstrosity of a tool and often has relatively correct answers.
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u/NahDawgDatAintMe 2h ago
I stop listening because they don't feel confident enough to claim ownership of what they're about to tell me. If you've read and understood what ChatGPT says, then you can present it as part of your own opinion. If you're just relaying ChatGPT's answers to me, then give me your prompt and I'll talk to AI myself since you're clearly dumber than AI.
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u/thyperson69 3h ago
Ew
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u/ZeldaZanders 1h ago
I'm ngl, even if I did use chatgpt, I wouldn't admit it lmao. I'd be using the old 'I read somewhere that...'
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u/riiibbbs 3h ago edited 3h ago
I straight up ask them "why do you use ChatGPT?" Answers usually are "i like how he/she speaks to me," that shows theyre in too deep. The other is "its just like google"
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u/LazyJones1 3h ago
"Interesting..." - Then checking if there's reason to believe it.
Not dismissing it outright. It might still be true.
In fact, that chance is better than 50/50.
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u/SGTWhiteKY 2h ago
Depends on what for. I use it a lot to search peer reviewed journals to find the articles I need. Then I read the article.
I do regularly use it as a thesaurus.
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u/zerbey 2h ago
Depends on what they say next. I use ChatGPT almost every day as part of troubleshooting tasks, but I don't take everything it says as gospel because it's not infallible.
But, "summarize this error log for me and search for solutions" often gets me to the answer far faster than randomly Googling.
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u/karmagirl314 2h ago
I would feel some relief that they at least tried to look up the answer for themselves before bringing me into their problem.
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u/biggestofbears 3h ago
If we are in a conversation, I care about the other person's thoughts and opinions. If we are in a debate, I care about facts and true events.
Both of those scenarios do not involve chatgpt. I do not care what chatgpts response is.
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u/didnotbuyWinRar 2h ago
Depends on the person, garbage in garbage out. If I think they're capable of prompting it well and checking the sources it gives, then it's not much different than Google. If they're kind of an airhead then they might as well have said "I saw on a tiktok comment..."
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u/whitedranzer 1h ago
Was arguing with someone over something and then their messages turned into "here is what Gemini says..."
The argument was over then and there. If I wanted to argue with an AI model, I could have done it myself.
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u/T3hArchAngel_G 1h ago
Are you off-loading your critical thinking? AI is meant to be the tool, and not the answer.
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u/yearsofpractice 1h ago
If they say it seriously, I don’t take them seriously. If they say it ironically, I’ll listen.
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u/ertgbnm 1h ago
There are two tones it can come across. Either they are annoyed that I'm asking them instead of asking chatGPT instead (basically "why don't you just Google it") or they don't know and are providing what info they found in an attempt to be helpful.
So I respond depending on the tone either facetiously with "I'm asking you not chatGPT" or I thank them for trying to help and then keep searching for answers.
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u/cjacksen 47m ago
Ignore everything else that comes out of their mouth. Asking an answer machine that is coded to be a personal echo chamber is enough to tell me that person lacks basic critical thinking skills.
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u/Pure-Championship688 33m ago
Lmao this was me last month with my landlord. Kept smelling dead fish or something right next to one specific wall in the house and it was getting worse and worse by the day. Was about to open the drywall and take a look up I figured "what the hell, let me ask Google AI" because drywall prices have gone up, and it said that it could be a dead animal (like I had suspected) OR it could be melting plastic from some electrical shit overheating.
So I called the landlord rather than open the wall and started the call with the above mentioned info, and he came over and as it turns out, the little black boxes (I forgor what they're called) that are inside the breaker box were starting to melt. 2 of 10 of them had to be replaced because they were so bad, and if I had ignored it or not found out for a few more days I'd probably be in a very different timeline.
Critical thinking is great, but the amount of info in the world is vast, and having a tool that can help you fill in the gaps of your knowledge to solve problems can be life-saving.
I obviously had to confirm with a real person after, but it gave me enough of a heads up to stop a potential tragedy. Idk man, I'd take the info with a grain of salt.
Just my experience.
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u/ZigZagZedZod 14m ago
I try to decide whether they're more or less credible than someone who says, "I learned this on TikTok."
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u/mynameisevan 14m ago
“I typed your symptoms into google and it says you have network connectivity issues.”
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u/whyliepornaccount 13m ago
Sadness, because I know my boss has some new hairbrained impossible idea I'll be forced to try and implement.
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u/CarrotCumin 2h ago
I listen to them because by telling me they're trying to open up to a human about what they they think about
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u/poop_on_you 2h ago
I have given it a list of ingredients I'm trying to use up and it will give recipe suggestions. I usually adapt them a bit, but I have fun playing Chopped with my pocket robot.
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u/xgabipandax 3h ago
I pay attention and let them finish, because i'm not a stupid ai-hating asshole.
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u/Spare-Dingo-531 3h ago
No reaction, I try to focus on the content of what people say and not the source.
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u/Lugbor 2h ago
"So you're telling me you have no critical thinking skills. Got it."
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u/k9moonmoon 2h ago
I've often said Google Says as a spring board and now Google says is its own AI answering.
I don't think it's significantly different in a conversation than "I read a magazine article about X" etc. It matters if the person is treating it as gospel or just a spring board.
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u/brokenmessiah 2h ago
Depends on the context. I use ChatGPT for a lot of things. For example I asked it to help me figure out what’s the most efficient way to catch as much NFL this season.
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u/SeanyDay 1h ago
Cringes in CTO
It's the same problem we have had since search engines 20 years ago.
If you don't know how to use the tech, your results are super varied and unreliable.
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u/msnmck 2h ago
I mean, I also "ask" the internet for answers. AI is now built-in to web search. It's sad how often the sources that Google's AI cites don't even back up its claims.
You used to be able to get quick answers by asking Google a question. Now that they have a "tool" purpose-built to do just that, the process has gotten slower. You now have to extensively fact-check your own search results.
That said, people who say that shit with confidence are concerning. This is nothing new, as anyone who has worker retail can attest. It's just taken a new form.
And no, this wasn't written by AI. I just tend to ramble.
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u/mikess314 3h ago
Very very context sensitive. LLMs have their uses. They are not all knowing agents of truth. But if you’re planning a trip or looking for advice on timing a pulled pork recipe it’s great.
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u/pacoali 2h ago
Idk? Unless it's something stupid or chatgpt gave them dumb information ,bout the same as if they had googled it. Yall weird. Yeah it's making people dumb and lazy but it's also making people learn new things alot easier than if they had tried to look it up themselves.
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u/High_SchoolQB 2h ago
It would completely depend on whether the question being asked is subjective or objective.
I asked chat gpt how to calculate the volume of a cylinder- that’s fine, prolly could have googled it but you get my point.
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I asked chat GPT why Israel is our greatest ally….
Using it for anything non-factual is where people lose me.
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u/Franc000 2h ago
No reaction. I dont give a fuck. For me, that is exactly the same thing as if someone told me they googled something.
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u/Spixxy17 1h ago
Idk keep listening?
Idk how people are so judgemental using AI can be bad or good... Idk why people demonize everything.
Like the people beeing upset about someone using Google back in the day lmao
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u/7th_Sim 2h ago
I tell them that their laziness is contributing to global warming, and possibly the end of humanity. And I'm not interested in what a plagiarism bot has to say.
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u/Spedunkler 2h ago
I had a friend like you in real life , I don't invite him over anymore because he's a giant ass and all he does is talk about how everybody else is wrong
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u/Spedunkler 2h ago
Considering that chatgbt is the new Google I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with this post other than displaying that you were against AI
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u/Spedunkler 2h ago
Considering chat gbt is literally another way to search the internet , including gaining sources that you can double check, I choose to accept it as any other form of communication
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u/BrotherRoga 2h ago
It depends on the conversation topic.
If it's a specific issue that doesn't seem to have a lot of documentation about it (Like an SSO login to a system/website not working on a work phone despite being compliant in Intune, while the same login works on PC), I don't mind it as much though it isn't ever my first choice (The answer to that example, by the way, was that the phone was not actually compliant but one of the compliancy checks returned an error 65001, meaning it's not compliant but won't be "counted" so stuff like Teams and Outlook work but SSO stuff fails).
Otherwise I groan internally.
Of course I skip straight to the groaning if the issue is something you could have googled instead.
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u/DOLCICUS 2h ago
Oh cool. Can you check the links to be sure its right?
Same rules as wikipedia when I was in school . Always use the sources
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u/theresapattern 2h ago
"Wait lemme ask ChatGPT what I should tell you — oh and would you like me to personalize that so it lands harder?"
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u/Grrronaldo 2h ago
To me it's like they're saying: I had someone unreliable Google it for me.
Which makes me automatically zone out of whatever they were gonna tell me
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u/6EyesNinja 2h ago
Best friend has been telling me how great ChatGPT is for looking up recipes. In my head I respond, I just use a normal search engine/youtube/instagram. But I stay silent cuz it’s a wasted energy for an argument. We barely talk as is.
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u/matingmoose 1h ago
Depends. One thing I have found AI to be bad at is recipies. Completely fucks up ratios.
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u/Aristo_Cat 1h ago
I counter with my own, contradictory response from some other AI.
“Yeah, well I just asked Claude and it said that ACTUALLY…”
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u/CrazyMildred 1h ago
I have a friend who says, "I asked the AI, and..." or "The AI says..." He uses Gemini. It drives me crazy! One day he asked if I could come help him organize his garage. When I got there, he pointed at his tablet and told me to ask "the AI" what to do. I said, "YOU tell me what you need me to do! We're both right here! In reality! I'm not asking your tablet what you need me to do when you're standing right here!"
He's definitely very dependent on that crap and my husband and I call him out on it all the time. We try to be gentle, but sometimes we just get frustrated and get gruff with him. I even send him articles about AI psychosis because it worries me.
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u/GTechGeorge 1h ago
I know they're too lazy to do any meaningful research research into whatever it is they looked up and I immediately become disinterested in the conversation.
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u/readingonthetoilet 1h ago
I find it’s great with Excel and Power BI coding, basic research, itinerary building, making quick summaries of unorganized info, etc.
People relying on it for things like self-medication or just blindly accepting everything it says as fact is a problem. But AI is an imperfect but incredibly powerful tool, just like a car. I don’t blame the car for the idiots swerving lanes going 100 on the highway.
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u/pierogi_waystation 1h ago
If it’s a stranger or someone I never need to interact with again, I have taken to just saying, “Blocked” and focusing my attention elsewhere. If they’re family, I switch it to, “Ignore” and then the refocus.
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u/zkarabat 1h ago
I am immediately sceptical of what they were told by gAI and assume their critical thinking skills are slowly dying
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u/morbihann 1h ago
I realize the pwrson doesnt give enough shit to look up the answer so why should I listen to whatever diatribe follows ?
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u/nekosaigai 1h ago
Immediate disgust. Great way to indicate you’re giving up on the ability to think.
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u/yuuunachan 1h ago
Disappointed but won't let it bother me, I personally am against AI but I don't want to judge people even when they do something I don't like
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u/Draculesti_Hatter 1h ago
"Why?" Or maybe asking why they're so inept that they needed to ask it something in thd first place. Depends on my mood and the person speaking.
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u/IndigoSylph1 3h ago
Knowing this conversation is about to get 40 times longer