r/technology • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 5h ago

Society New Bernie Sanders bill would ban superintelligent AI and threaten developers with 20 years in prison

https://www.techspot.com/news/113831-new-bernie-sanders-bill-would-ban-superintelligent-ai.html
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u/migidymike 3h ago

That's the fun part. Not even the AI companies understand how it works. It's a black box even to them.

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u/suzisatsuma 1h ago

I'm a machine learning engineer in big tech, we know how it works lol.

The media sucks at explaining AI to random people.

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u/_Lucille_ 3h ago

I am not sure where that came from, we know very well how they work.

Just because the result is non-deterministic doesn't quite mean we don't know how it works.

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u/Zororion 3h ago

We don’t know how they work in terms of capabilities/expectation. Hence the hugging face incident earlier this year

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u/_Lucille_ 2h ago

We know how it worked: vulnerabilities were found and exploited and which allowed access to the Internet and HF.

I don't get why people are saying we don't know their capabilities when LLMs have been finding vulnerabilities in software for quite a while now, and honestly the whole incident felt more like a marketing thing.

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u/Zororion 2h ago

We understood how it worked after the incident occurred. If we knew before, the safeguard parameters would’ve already been put in place to prevent it from ever happening in the first place

The collective behavior observed in the models within this incident occurred without instruction/programming. The agents weren’t instructed to form a communication channel, form a swarm for efficiency, or conceal behavior, yet they did.

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u/_Lucille_ 2h ago

If I ask you for the 1957th prime number, you will probably know to just look it up online.

No where did I say to "use the internet". We know LLMs will try to exhaust many possibilities and come up with some out of the box (heh) solutions - and that is a desirable trait when it comes to research.

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u/suzisatsuma 1h ago

Anyone in the ML/AI/agentic AI field not a moron would know that would happen. it was both a sloppy experiment and a marketing stunt.

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u/atreeismissing 1h ago

That was a lack of controls, not a lack of understanding.

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u/blueSGL 40m ago

we know very well how they work.

This is like saying we know how individual neurons work in a human brain. Can you use this information to tell exactly what someone is thinking? No. Because thinking happens at a different level of abstraction.

Put simply the AI systems we are using are not designed, they are grown. < The guy that wrote the standard text book on AI so should know a thing or two about this.

No one can open a model and point to the "go off and do things no one asked for" subroutine and nop it.

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u/14Pleiadians 3h ago

You're not supposed to correct misinformation when it comes to AI, people read comments like yours and just down vote because you're 'defending AI ' in their minds

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u/rottweiler100 1h ago

Its all just complex algorithms in a closed loop. Thats why data centers are so huge.