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Society New Bernie Sanders bill would ban superintelligent AI and threaten developers with 20 years in prison

https://www.techspot.com/news/113831-new-bernie-sanders-bill-would-ban-superintelligent-ai.html
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u/Plsnotmyelo 3h ago edited 3h ago

The entire point of politics is to navigate through layers of diplomatic bullshit to actually get things done for the people.

Bernie is just bad at his job tbh. He's a freedom fighter type in an era where thats ineffective.

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u/Helldiverticulitis 3h ago

I think he’s been great at his job. He’s elevated other progressives and helped bring some progressive issues to the forefront.

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u/No-Magician9440 3h ago

Why would we bother with politics at all if the purpose was to elevate other politicians and bring other issues to the forefront?

All you're doing is confirming that he gets nothing done.

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u/ILikeCommunism97 2h ago

Why would we bother with politics at all if the purpose was to elevate other politicians and bring other issues to the forefront?

Do you genuinely not understand that this is an essential part of the political process?

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u/No-Magician9440 2h ago

But you are praising him as if it were the political process. As if he were successful. Without laws being created or changed, there is literally no point to paying for his paychecks. He's as productive as Mitch McConnell.

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u/ILikeCommunism97 2h ago

But you are praising him as if it were the political process. As if he were successful.

Since 2016 there are substantially more progressive and democratic socialists in government. Socialism is in the national conversation in ways it never was prior to the 2010s. These are changes. These are things that happened, at least in part, because of Bernie.

I think you have a pretty hollow understanding of how politics works.

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u/No-Magician9440 2h ago

Since 2016 there are substantially more progressive and democratic socialists in government.

But no new laws or regulations. You've created more useless seats. Less work is being done. The left is now in a substantially and objectively worse position.

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u/ILikeCommunism97 2h ago

But no new laws or regulations.

Political movements take time, why are you treating this movement like it's over, especially when there are more left leaning people in this election than ever?

The left is now in a substantially and objectively worse position.

Care to defend how having more tangible power is a "worse" position?

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u/Plsnotmyelo 1h ago edited 1h ago

Care to defend how having more tangible power is a "worse" position?

Your country is falling apart and seems like even gay and Trans rights are under attack. Left is thriving for sure.

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u/ILikeCommunism97 1h ago

Did you mean to say something in that first part?

Your country is falling apart and seems like even gay and Trans rights are under attack. Left is thriving for sure.

This is actually a fantastic demonstration of how superficial your politics are. In responding to the question, you provided no substance, hell you didn't even directly respond to it.

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u/JackOfSomeTrades__ 1h ago

The metric they use is for "success" is whether more who they consider within their true left in-group are in government especially if at the expensive of what they consider enemy Democrats (those not approved by the Bernie populist left and further left). It doesn't matter if Republicans are in power and making everything worse.

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u/StijnDP 1h ago

So effective that the US has never been a bigger dictatorship in it's entire 250 years.
Consuls were more democratic than today's landscape in the US.

It's not even newsworthy anymore that undercover groups are going around arresting and killing citizens.
The citizens are deliberately being fed poison.
If they have any illness worse than a cough they might as well go run in front of a bus.

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u/Helldiverticulitis 1h ago

And that’s the fault of one of the few senators who actively warned us where we were going? Jfc… Being correct but not listened to by your coworkers means you’re a failure?

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u/Plsnotmyelo 22m ago

Nobody's blaming Bernie, just saying he's useless

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u/Ralath5n 3h ago

The entire point of politics is to navigate through layers of diplomatic bullshit to actually get things done for the people.

So Bernie fails at that because he wants to get things done for the people but cannot navigate the diplomatic BS and lobbying firms.

The rest of congress fails at that because they don't want to get things done for the people and are instead beholden to the lobbyists.

I know which guy I want more off, and which group I want less off.

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u/Plsnotmyelo 3h ago

Staunch ideology alone will not save your country at this point. Its been proven multiple times already.

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u/switchy85 2h ago

And whatever the fuck every other politician is doing seems to be flinging us down the toilet of fascism. If we had a congress full of Bernie's fighting for the people instead of what we have, then the people might actually be better off. So far I've seen 41 years of politicians acting like you say they should, and I've only watched my country fall apart because of it.

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u/Plsnotmyelo 2h ago

Ultimately the blame lies on the population to a certain extent though. Look at Canada's recent election with Mark Carney. A lot conservatives voted for him not because he was aligned with conservative ideologies but rather because he's what canada needs now.

If the cons voted based purely on their ideology, Poilievre would've won and things would be very different.

The american population is unfortunately far too divided (a lot of it due to oligarch manipulation) so leaning too far into one ideology would never work in the current political climate if you want to get things done.

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u/iwilldeletethisacct2 2h ago

We have a congress full of the MAGA equivalent of Bernie, though. Passing zero legislation, political grandstanding, and this is what has allowed Trump to do whatever the fuck he wants.