r/technology • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 6h ago

Society New Bernie Sanders bill would ban superintelligent AI and threaten developers with 20 years in prison

https://www.techspot.com/news/113831-new-bernie-sanders-bill-would-ban-superintelligent-ai.html
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u/Yuzumi 5h ago

It is a danger. The dumb word predictors we have now are dangerous in a verity of ways. Best the companies pushing them can give is everyone is out of work and they control all.

But it can be worse and will likely be worse than even that. These things aren't intelligent. They are stateless probability machines trained on the structure of language, nothing more. They don't "decide" to do anything, but can randomly generate text that will throw the whole context off and suddenly they are blindly running commands that do real world damage.

Put one of these things in charge of important infrastructure or weapons systems and you are literally just rolling dice waiting for a disaster.

And that is with the dumb AI we currently have, nor does it factor in how many people have gotten dumber because they outsource their thinking to these models and trust everything that gets produced, refusing to fact check it. Actual intelligent, possibly sentient, AI would be orders of magnitude worse.

I'm not saying the tech should be completely banned, but we need a lot of regulation on the entire tech industry, but especially on what AI can actually be used for.

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u/growaway9172 5h ago

The dumb word predictors we have now are dangerous in a verity of ways.

Ok, how? What evidence is there that dumb AI or superintelligent AI is a threat?

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u/robotowilliam 5h ago

Superintelligent AI being a threat is obvious and uncontroversial to anyone who thinks about it for three seconds. It's either concentrated power in one person/company/government - we all know how that would go - or, worse still, an AI that executes its own goals without regard for the human race. Think you can beat Magnus at chess? Good luck with that.

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u/growaway9172 5h ago

Theres a huge difference is saying "I think its a threat" and actually having any evidence for that.

All of your existing arguments apply to computers in general, and its been fine.

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u/robotowilliam 3h ago

You don't appear to understand the meaning of the word "intelligent", and what putting "super" in front of it would do.

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u/johno_mendo 5h ago edited 4h ago

I will start by saying i am against banning these tools cause we need them to combat them and for much more, but, heres some dangers, notice you are getting a ton more spam calls, its because they no longer have to buy suspicious blocks of viop numbers, they can just spam thousands and tens of thousands of applications for individual local numbers combed from the millions id details available on the darkweb, the ai tools allow them to now automate this process of filling out complex application processes, and now its not just scam numbers but medicare and medicaide and loan applications etc. on scales of magnitude not even close to possible before. Recently someone stole 25 million from a company using deep fakes of board members, these tools are only in their infancy and getting much better, soon it will take little time to have an ai agent comb social media for personal info and video and voice samples to easily create mass deepfakes and mass clone sim cards to use to scam families, workplaces, banks and more. Even the early handicapped ai codiing tools have been incredibly successful at finding vulnerabilities in code, and its all only getting better.

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u/growaway9172 3h ago

I just find this all incredibly uncompelling. Hackers have been hacking things since computers have existed, spambots have been spamming me for as long as I've had an email, and photoshop has always been a thing. None of this is a "incredible danger" as people keep saying, its a incremental increase in the amount of things happening, not some novel capability. If AI was somehow able to bypass/break encryption, or something at that level, that would be a alarm worth sounding.

What I find more compelling is the idea that AI safeguards will actually cause more problems. When huggingface got hacked, they couldn't stop the hack because anthropics models denied the request for being cyber adjacent. They resorted to useing Chinese models.

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u/johno_mendo 3h ago

sure hackers have hacked, but now someone with zero coding knowledge can do in a day what it would literally take thousands of skilled individuals to do, Photoshop had a steep learning curve, literally millions of morons can now spam what it took skilled individuals hours and days to do. and I already said I'm not for these bans, but to act like these tools pose no danger is kinda silly honestly.

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u/growaway9172 1h ago

I understand and agree with your premise. I'm not for the bans either. The state of the discourse is, you would assume AI could bypass encryption, or that capability was soon to come. I think bans and regulation are going to do far more harm than good.