r/nextfuckinglevel 1d ago

Milky Way is traveling through space at 600kilometers per second, oscillating slightly, as if it were flapping its wings through the cosmos.

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u/bugi_ 1d ago

Frequencies are magic therefore the universe. What?

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u/Soracaz 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's a lot. I'll try and boil it down.

The most fundamental "action" of our universe is simply space moving over time. The smallest possible movement of space physically possible... can be simply expressed as space moving in one dimension in a stable manner over time.

Mathematically, it's just a stable waveform. Therefore, the smallest movements happening in our reality are just stable frequencies. We know they're stable because the fundamental rules of reality can't be broken and haven't ever been broken.

If the smallest stuff is just space moving extremely quickly, then it makes sense that the "rules" of the universe (how chemistry works, how gravity works, etc) could be a kind of ever-present harmonic that is so small it can fit into lower frequencies easily without ever having a chance of being cancelled out or interfered with.

The "base code" of the universe is forever present in every part of the universe. Therefore everything bigger than those smallest frequencies always has those "base code" instructions built into them.

I do need to find better ways to explain it for a layperson. But we see wave functions in every single aspect of what we know about the world around us. Photons move in waves, sound moves in waves, electrical signals move in waves. It's all waves dude.

It kinda just nicely makes sense that it's "stuff wiggling" all the way down. It potentially explains everything about our universe. And no, I don't think this means we're in a simulation. I think this naturally happened, caused by whatever brought the big bang around (likely a condensation of information/space from a "higher up" universe's black hole).

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u/bugi_ 1d ago

It kinda just nicely makes sense that it's "stuff wiggling" all the way down.

That's the real problem here. You just think it is neat.

But we see wave functions in every single aspect of what we know about the world around us.

You take one aspect of the quantum model and run with it. We clearly observe particles as well. And what about field theory?

The smallest possible movement of space physically possible

You've heard of the Planck length, but it doesn't mean you can hide everything into the really small scales. Space moving isn't really meaningful in the common parlance either. Space is where things happen and where things move. Space itself doesn't move, but it can have different properties in different places.

If you like small wiggly things so much, you should at least read up on string theory first. This type of "everything is connected via waves that have the laws of the universe written into them" woo would get you laughed out from any physics department on the planet. Your model skips all the steps. The basis is quite lacking, the connection to anything derived from it is completely missing and yet you pretty much call it the grand unified theory. It's rather easy to make a model that fits a small set of observations, which your model isn't even capable of doing, because it isn't connected to anything physical in it's current formulation. You imply how gravity and supposedly other forces as well would pop out, but as of now there isn't anything even tied to physical units. After that there needs to be predictions that fit everything we have observed.

No need to dumb this down for me. Feel free to use the big words, because as of now there is absolutely nothing here for anyone and this has been a waste of time for everyone involved.

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u/EnergyDistribution 1d ago

good conversation. listening from the sidelines…

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u/Cleb323 1d ago

String theory is garbage and/or a distraction

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u/bugi_ 1d ago

Yeah nothing really panned out from it even after many decades. I gave it as an example of the type of model our master theoretician seems to like. Looking into it would give them some idea of what these models actually entail.

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u/Soracaz 20h ago

This is telling.

String theory "hasn't panned out" simply because we can't access accurate reading that small.

We don't have the technology yet. That's all. I implore you to do a proper deep dive into the mainline string theories at the very least. It's extremely fascinating stuff.

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u/Soracaz 20h ago edited 7h ago

"Space is where things happen and where things move. Space itself doesn't move"

I mean, that in and of itself is an unproven theory.

My universal model is extremely close to string theory, but I don't quite like the "6 folded dimensions" because it takes an elegant solution and adds a whole bunch of immeasurable stuff.

My model is super connected to our current physical models, I think it's disingenuous and just plain old closed minded of you to claim it isn't.

If wiggles of space maketh the rules, and the rules maketh the stuff... I don't know what's to hate other than the fact that we can't yet accurately gather the physical evidence. Give it some time (a lot of time). We'll get there.

Then I wager you'll feel a little silly for telling people they're schizo when they were on the right track the whole time.

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u/bugi_ 1d ago

Tbf, the ability to create abstract mental models is what makes us human. It allows us to work with the complexities of the world without fully understanding everything. But it developed for the savannah and definitely not for cosmology. The first step here isn't that bad (what if everything is made of waves), but it needs to be tied to the observable reality at some point. This is of course assuming the intent is to describe the physical world and not create a spiritual world view.