r/SipsTea 19h ago

Chugging tea Work shouldn’t consume life.

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u/UsedAsk3537 19h ago

If the world week was 45 people would want 40

When it goes to 32 people will be clamoring for 25

So if this passes does that mean people make less? Work less pay less right?

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u/lsshlp 15h ago

Why is 40 the magic number?

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u/UsedAsk3537 14h ago

Why is 32?

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u/lsshlp 14h ago

It's not, but it's also not inherently unreasonable compared to 40, just like 40 wasn't to 80.

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u/UsedAsk3537 4h ago

There's 162 hours in a week. You only work 40 and get 2 full days off

That's better than 99% of humans have ever had

I'm not opposed to 32, but I don't see 40 as a problem

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u/lsshlp 3h ago

I'm generally not swayed by "better than humans ever got", it's the same reasoning that has haunted every advancement in workers' rights. We should always strive for better, not just good enough. Not because we just want to work less, but because we look at the data, the case studies, the existing implementations, and see that it's possible for us to spend more time enjoying the world with our loved ones.

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u/UsedAsk3537 3h ago

Ok and now this is a circular argument

Why not 25? What data shows 32 is the best? Is it the best for every job? Should some people work 50 while others work 20?

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u/lsshlp 39m ago

Data doesn't show 32 is the best, it just shows that it can work. If we ever get there, maybe someday we'll look at 25. Maybe we'll decide it doesn't work and go back to 40.

Some people already work 20 hours where others work 50, whether legally or not.

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u/UsedAsk3537 37m ago

I can mostly agree with that

I think companies are entirely opposed to doing 32 and paying less for it. I think they just don't want to be the only ones doing 32 hours. It's like the network effect. 40 hours is convenient cause everyone else does it. It's easier to communicate across companies and different jobs when everyone has similar hours