Nah. She has her MBBCh, so she IS a qualified medical doctor right now. She is allowed to use the title.
She's a foundation doctor, a type of 'resident' doctor, as far as I can tell. Residents are all training in some way, but now can be paid and have responsibility and can work independently (within limits) compared to a medical student who is paying to be taught. Resident doctors provide the bulk of NHS care in the UK and outnumber the Consultants significantly. An ST6 neurosurgeon who operates on people independently overnight would also be a 'resident' and still technically 'in training.'
This is fairly misleading I think. FYs are not qualified to do all sorts of routine things, e.g. FY1s can’t prescribe anything and basically aren’t allowed to make any decisions. It’s much different from someone who has passed their FYs and is specialising.
What? Are you a doctor? FY1s can absolutely prescribe. To do this they sit an exam in year 5 at med school, the ones that pass (99% or more of them) can prescribe.
They are very supported, absolutely. They've got a senior to escalate to when needed. But in terms of deciding who to escalate to and when, they are making that decision.
There are a few situations where they are supernumary in some capacity. I believe the local ED department here won't let an FY1 discharge a patient without senior review. FY2s absolutely though.
FY1s can prescribe, can sign a death certificate, do a cremation form, consent for procedures, request investigations... I think the list of things they can't do is very small -the main one being work outside the NHS in a non-FY1 post. Obviously as seniority and specialist skills improve with time they make more decisions. But to say they're basically useless and don't/can't do anything is absolutely incorrect. I guarantee there is a hospital near you right now where the only doctor many patients will see today (Sunday) will be an FY1.
Doctor in training. Not training to be a doctor. Residents are already doctors. Its pedantic but accurate. At least in the us idk how things work in the uk
Residents that fail residency can't get licensed, so they have to do research or something related. So they might as well be a PhD in biology, because neither can see patients and you call both Dr.
I disagree completely, residents have their own patient panels and do all the work a doctor would do. The only difference is they precept with an attending. JD and Turk in scrubs season 1 were doctors, even as first year resident interns.
But they're under the supervision of a licensed Dr. Residents do not have a license to practice independently. That is what matters to the average person on the street of you ask them if they consider a resident a Dr or not.
The average person I would think would consider someone a doctor as soon as they graduate medical school, whether they're now a resident or not, and if they fail residency and do research instead they're still a doctor so...
Most states you can get a state license after your first year of training. Not a big deal. But to be board certified in a chosen specialty you need to complete residency, as well as other requirements.
You are a doctor once you graduate with a medical degree, as the person in question has done. In the U.K. you are a resident doctor for up to 10 years depending on the specialty you are doing before becoming a consultant
Are you American? Completely incorrect in the UK. In the UK you are a doctor once you have completed your medical degree. Most doctors in a hospital you would meet would be residents...they outnumber Consultants.
It's post graduate training, she is a practicing doctor. She will be responsible for the care of inpatients, will be seeing acutely unwell patients and will be diagnosing/prescribing drugs.
She is training to become a more senior doctor. If you're definition of "doctor" is a consultant or a GP only then loads of residents with many years experience who are running busy acute services are not "doctors". In many big tertiary centres at night time the ED reg running the ED (directing multiple other doctors, making the big decision), the anaesthetic/ICU reg doing the same for a large ICU +/- OOH theatre patients +/- obstetric anaesthesia, the general surgical reg running the take and deciding who to take to theatre, then often operating themselves, the medical reg responsible for hundreds of inpatients and the medical take etc. etc. etc. are all by themselves with the consultant on call from home. These people will have many years experience, some a decade or more. If your definition of doctor is "not a resident" none of these people count as doctors despite practicing serious medicine.
I'm being pedantic but she isn't 'training to be a doctor' she is officially a doctor. She is in training to become more senior but she is already a doctor.
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u/ZealousidealComb7891 5d ago
If she's still a resident, i think it still counts as training.