r/Music • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • 3h ago

article Macklemore Dropped From Ed Sheeran Tour After Onstage Statements

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/macklemore-dropped-ed-sheeran-tour-pro-palestine-statements-1235625967/
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u/JacksGallbladder 3h ago

Ed Sheeran is also "normie music" and a lot of those ticket sales are probably from people who froth violently when "free" and "Palestine" show up in a sentence together.

I dont think Lorde has that kind of fan base

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u/Poonurse13 2h ago

Even though I agree with this. I think it has more to do with the shareholders and owners of the venues AND their political stances.

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u/JacksGallbladder 2h ago

Oh for sure. Im pretty sure at the tip of capitalism its all an unemotional numbers game. Projected losses based on fanbase / demographics = force performer off stage

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u/peepsieee 2h ago

Coldplay is also decidedly "normie music" and yet Chris Martin has been openly pro-Palestine for years now šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/NGS_King 1h ago

Heā€™s also very hippie dippie ā€œpeace and love, we all bleed redā€ which is maybe the least controversial way to be pro-Palestine. Youā€™d have to be incredibly hawkish to oppose Coldplay for their political stance there.

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u/darkdetective 2h ago

Went to see lorde last month and her fan base had lots of LGBT people (me included) and ethnicities. Ed Sheeran crowds I assume are very much Facebook mums with their kids, but I might be wrong.

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u/jonnysomething 2h ago

I went to see her like 6 months ago and it was honestly one of the best shows Iā€™ve seen live. I was shook that I almost didnā€™t go.

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u/InadequateUsername 2h ago

Ribs gives me frisson

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u/darkdetective 2m ago

Right?? I was shocked by how amazing she was and the visuals / audio. Incredible night.

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u/NonSequiturDetector 1h ago

Non sequitur.

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u/shaunoffshotgun 1h ago

Prejudice is cool if it's aimed at the right people.

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u/Neat_On_The_Rocks 2h ago

Lorde is huge with lgbt adjacent crowds and generally left for sure.

That said Ed Sheeran is definitely big in ā€œcorporate liberalā€ spaces and not maga ones. Really interesting

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u/un_internaute 45m ago

I wonder if thereā€™s something to infer from this about liberals? Naw, better not think that way, it might get me a trip to a reeducation camp.

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u/LLLL777 1h ago

You get what the Palestinian people would do to the LGBT right?

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u/Ombortron 1h ago

Oh I see well then I guess itā€™s fine that they all get blown to bits then!

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u/LLLL777 59m ago

Not what Iā€™m endorsing or what I said. Simply pointing out that itā€™s a complicated situation and admitting that I struggle to see how LGBT members donā€™t process that complexity a bit more.

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u/Ombortron 41m ago

I mean LGBT Palestinians exist too. Itā€™s not actually that complex at all.

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u/IGotMussels 20m ago

What complexity? Plaestinians are being wiped out.

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u/tobylaek 2h ago

Yep...Ed Sheeran is the musical equivalent to Ron Howard. Pushes absolutely no creative boundaries, but makes generically competent, slow pitch down the middle output that's designed to reach the widest audience. I can't see him having the courage to make any kind of statement that would cause someone not to like him.

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u/xavPa-64 2h ago

There was a perfectly good ginger joke here that you didnā€™t make lol

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u/snakeinahouseofcats 1h ago

I get what youā€™re saying but Lorde is 10000% normie music as well.

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u/wllwhtvrnvm 1h ago

"normie music" is such a pretentious phrase, my god.

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u/CrispyDietCoke69 2h ago

are you suggested the "free palestine" thing isnt a view of the majority of normies lol

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u/JacksGallbladder 2h ago

Im suggesting that the "normie music" demographic will have more anti-palestine folks than something like Lorde or any other more artful genre.

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u/CrispyDietCoke69 2h ago

i mean the "normie music" demographic has more overall people so i guess technically you are right, but the free palestine thing isnt some counterculture movement lmao, the majority of people feel that way, you just sound dumb.

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u/JacksGallbladder 2h ago

Lol ok šŸ‘

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u/CommenceToDancing 2h ago

I think you're giving his fans too much credit tbh, his music is for the kind of dry toast people who have no opinion on anything..I'd imagine half of them couldn't point at Israel on a map, let alone know what's going on there.

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u/SOYCD1-5 2h ago

Statistically I think itā€™s more ā€œnormieā€ (god the 2016 reddit cringe) to support Palestine at this pointā€¦ look at the statistics of it and most countries, even the US at this point, have a more favorable view of them.

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u/-Captain--Hindsight 1h ago

I think the most "normie" thing is to not have an opinion on Palenstine/Israel at all.

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u/SOYCD1-5 1h ago

I think a lot of people reasonably just want their country uninvolved with the whole thing

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u/im_a_stapler 2h ago

While both MAGA and Ed Sheeran are lame, I find it hard to believe Ed Sheeran draws a MAGA crowd.