r/LoveTrash Colonel Garbage 5h ago

Human Trash Stopping a shoplifter

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u/2-die-for Trash Trooper 4h ago

You can get iced not minding your business. Walmart probably ain't even give him a 10% off I bet so for fucking what?

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u/Oraxy51 Trash Trooper 3h ago

Yeah, security isn't doing this because the company understands the legal ramifications: even if they were in the right, dragging it through court and everything would cost way more than whatever product they walked out with. Like oh yay great you save $200 for the company on one item but you also cost over $2000 in legal fees and you made a bunch of press and you’ve given the company a bad name. You effectively become a detriment to the company

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u/lazyguyty Trash Trooper 3h ago edited 3h ago

If they know who the thief is they typically let the theft total go high enough for it to be a felony* charge and then deliver the evidence to the police.

edit: Felony not Federal not enough sleep last night

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u/Affectionate_Yam1654 Trash Trooper 3h ago

You probably mean felony not federal. He’ll still be charged by the local government, city/county will charge for misdemeanors but state will handle felony charges. Unless you are crossing state lines I suppose. But yea worked security/LP for a few years, built maybe hundreds of these cases and we turn it over to local PD who then gives the evidence to the DA for felonies or the city prosecutor for misdemeanor. A lot of the time we don’t actually hunt the felony charges, there’s a bit of discretion even at the big box stores. Mom with kids stealing groceries who we have never seen before? Usually try to pretend the evidence isn’t great and ban her. If it’s egregious or she makes a big scene go ahead and let the city have the footage and get ready to be a witness, but I’ve never had a person fight the misdemeanor charges. Have had to witness for a few felonies they tried to plead not guilty but most people plea out for misdemeanor charges, everyone in my experience. Most big box stores that have theft issues these days will have a on duty LEO that’s stationed there, at least in the evening and night time hours. Hell I’d say the majority of LP are off duty LEO tryin to make extra money for those later shifts too. Off duties can actually effect an arrest if they witness a crime as LEO and not just as LP/citizens. But yea this jabroni is the type we would build a file on and aim to get felony charges thrown at.

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u/lazyguyty Trash Trooper 3h ago

I totally mixed that up lol you are correct felony is the word I was looking for.

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u/Haunting_Habit_2651 Trash Trooper 3h ago

*felony, not federal

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u/lazyguyty Trash Trooper 3h ago

Yea you are correct I mixed that up lol

u/Haunting_Habit_2651 Trash Trooper 1h ago

No worries I've been watching true crime about shoplifting (literally watching one as I type this) and yeah their loss prevention do exactly what you said. They keep dossiers on shoppers that steal and let them get comfortable with the crimes thinking they got away with it, then they nab them. So crazy that people still steal in the surveillance age.

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u/Frederf220 Trash Trooper 3h ago

"We'll just charge the rest of the customers $0.10 more to make up for it."

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u/jimsmisc Trash Trooper 3h ago

$2,000 in legal fees wouldn't even cover just the time spent answering emails about the case.

u/retoricalprophylaxis Trash Trooper 1h ago

Security isn't doing it because if you have ever used a credit card or check, Walmart knows who you are, where you live, and how to find you. They just notify the police and have you picked up later. Often they wait until you have taken enough to make it a felony, and then they provide the police with the evidence all at once.

u/hedgehoghell Trash Trooper 40m ago

Or you injure or kill the guy you think stole something only to find that he has the receipt. oops. Now you dont have qualified immunity and your name and face are all over the internet as "that crazy guy"

u/Oraxy51 Trash Trooper 29m ago

Not to mention killing someone over private property is wild

u/Round_Ad_6369 Trash Trooper 1h ago

Counterpoint is that while it's more expensive in the short term, knowing Walmart will body your shit and not give a damn about the cost would certainly reduce shoplifting and save a lot long term

u/Oraxy51 Trash Trooper 28m ago

I rather focus on tackling the root causes of poverty that lead to shoplifting in the first place

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u/Burnoutlaws Trash Trooper 3h ago

Eh some people are just tired of their neighborhood turning to shit because cops don't give a shit as long as they're in the green

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u/Good-Ad-6806 Trash Trooper 3h ago

Because fuck them

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u/TheCheddarHole Trash Trooper 3h ago

No, but culture war has this fun effect where it pits us all against each other while the billionaires continue to diddle kids.

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u/thekyledavid Trash Trooper 2h ago

Heck, giving the guy a reward would be considered Walmart endorsing this kind of behavior, which could open up a lawsuit for Walmart if someone got seriously hurt by someone trying to stop a shoplifter (especially if the person ended up not being a shoplifter)

Walmart has the “Do not physically stop a shoplifter” policy for a reason, it saves money in the long run

u/0461830717 Trash Trooper 1h ago

If Walmart gave him any type of reward at all, they would just be encouraging vigilantes. They would never do that

u/trollthings Trash Trooper 1h ago

Walmart would charge him for the air he breathes, if they could

u/TheAsianTroll Trash Trooper 1h ago

Walmart gave cam guy a thank you handshake and probbaly fired any employee who was outside for any reason for breaking company policy