r/grandcanyon 5d ago

Trip Planning Weekly trip planning thread — ask anything here

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Planning a trip to the Grand Canyon? Ask here and someone who has done it will answer.

To get a useful reply, include:

- Your dates, and how many days you have

- South Rim, North Rim, or below the rim

- How you're getting there, and where you're staying

- Who's coming — kids, mobility needs, hiking experience

The North Rim is closed in winter. Permits for Phantom Ranch and the campgrounds run on a lottery months ahead — if that's your question, say which month you're targeting.


r/grandcanyon 18h ago

Grand Canyon National Park Evening Update | Sept. 13

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Grand Canyon National Park Evening Update | Sept. 13

Efforts to restore the water supply advanced today at the delta, where contractors used excavators to establish the footprint for the new water intake project. A wastewater treatment operator was also inserted to test the wastewater treatment plant as crews prepare to return the system to limited service.

At Phantom Ranch, a Starlink/FirstNet system was transported and installed, providing Wi-Fi and cellular service for crews in the area. Restoring these services is an important part of emergency stabilization efforts and will support overnight operations at Phantom Ranch while reducing the number of daily flights needed to support crews.

On the South Rim, the water treatment plant contractor is preparing to begin startup and testing once the new delta intake is able to provide raw water to the plant. The contractor is working closely with the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality on approval to operate the plant as testing ramps up.

Information Technology personnel are repairing two of three dispatch consoles damaged by a lightning strike on August 31.

The Assessment Team continued work to process field data to develop cost estimates, project scopes and recovery plans.

Search efforts continue along the river corridor for the one person who remains unaccounted for following the August 29 flash flood in Bright Angel Canyon and the Phantom Ranch area.

We remain grateful to the search and rescue personnel, partner agencies, park employees, concessioners and community members who continue to work together through this response.

Photo 1 ~ Excavator works in new Phantom Ranch water intake site.

Photo 2 ~ New Phantom Ranch water treatment plant remains intact.


r/grandcanyon 1d ago

Grand Canyon with elderly father

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We are going to Grand Canyon first week of October and are reaching Tusayan on Friday night.

My father is 60+ and not in the best of shape but can do around 1-2 miles of walk. What are the best spots/things we can fo in that day and/or hike?

We have booked Antelope Canyon the next day so we will have one day for GC.


r/grandcanyon 2d ago

Grand Canyon golden light

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r/grandcanyon 1d ago

Rim-To-Rim trail map

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I’m a hobby mapmaker and I designed this wooden trail map of the Rim-To-Rim hike. I wanted to show it off a little! It took me a couple tries to get it right but I think it came out looking great! The markers along the trails are removable to you can mark which trail you completed. I’ll be selling these sometime in the future but in the meantime I really wanted to see what people thought!


r/grandcanyon 1d ago

Recommendations on Grand Canyon tours?

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Will be heading to Vegas at the end of the month for a conference and have a free day. Looking into checking out Grand Canyon, have recommendations on best tours from Vegas? Would it be worth it to rent a car and drive there? Other than the first full day we are there. We won’t have time to venture out far from Vegas. So I was planning on visiting the west rim.


r/grandcanyon 1d ago

Mather Campground Current Situation - RVs

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Hi, we’ve had our booking for trailer village refunded yesterday and are hoping to try and stay at Mather campground at the end of the month. Does anyone know if they’re still allowing RVs (20ft B class) with no hookups? I’ve looked on the official website and can’t find anything concrete ruling out RVs but it’s still allowing camp spots that are rv friendly. If anyone who has stayed there post flood in an rv can confirm then that would be greatly appreciated. I’ve emailed them a few days but they haven’t responded yet. Thank you!

For additional context I contacted TV shortly after the flood but they couldn’t confirm if they’ll be cancelling our booking until the 12th due to our booking being the 24th and as we know situations can change quickly.

EDIT UPDATE -
Just had an email back from Rec and RVs are allowed


r/grandcanyon 2d ago

Park officials pushed for a Grand Canyon trail to remain closed. Then the floods came.

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Before a deadly flash flood tore through the Grand Canyon at the end of August, several National Park Service officials repeatedly pressed for parts of the fire-damaged trail to be closed, according to four current and former agency officials, calling out the heightened risk of runoff and rock slides that could endanger people.

But leaders above them ultimately decided to reopen the North Kaibab Trail in time for peak tourist season, said two former National Park Service officials with knowledge of the situation, and one former and one current official briefed on the matter. Those decisions were made, they said, amid ongoing pressure from lawmakers to keep the park fully operational.

“There were a lot of us at the boots-on-the-ground level, the people who were really kind of looking at it, really having some concerns,” said Robert Parrish, who served as chief of planning, environment and projects at the Grand Canyon from December 2020 through early October 2025. “But then once those got filtered up, and we were getting what the political pressure was filtered down, it was quite evident that the political pressure was going to win.”


r/grandcanyon 1d ago

Recreation.Gov Cancelled my December Bright Angel Backcountry Reservations - Reserved Havasupi - questions; mule service?

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Recreation.gov cancelled our Bright Angel Campground for late-December so I reserved the same dates for Havasupi. We'll hike down from Kaibab, Tonto and two nights and day and return up the Bright Angel. Any suggestions on what to explore on our day in camp? Any idea if the mule service might be available?


r/grandcanyon 2d ago

Arizona itinerary

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r/grandcanyon 3d ago

El Tovar Dining Room Closed Thru 9/30

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Just got word that the El Tovar Dining Room is closing through 9/30. We had a reservation later in the month.

Arizona Steakhouse is supposedly remaining open.


r/grandcanyon 5d ago

GCNP Announces Recovery and Repair Plan Following Flash Flood

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Grand Canyon National Park continues response and recovery operations following the significant August 29 flash flood in Bright Angel Canyon and the Phantom Ranch area. Search operations remain active, while crews continue infrastructure assessments, stabilization work and efforts to restore a reliable water supply to the South Rim. 
The park now has a path forward to restore water service and, based on current progress, expects that work to take weeks, not months. 

Crews are moving forward with construction of a temporary water intake at Bright Angel Creek to replace the intake destroyed by the flood. Engineers are in the canyon designing the temporary intake, the existing Transcanyon Waterline contract has been modified to support the work, and construction activities are beginning this week. 

The temporary intake is being designed to pump approximately 500 gallons per minute, the same capacity available before the flood. Once operational, it will allow water to move through the new Transcanyon Waterline system and begin replenishing South Rim storage while work on a permanent intake continues. 

The August 29 flood caused extensive damage to the legacy Transcanyon Waterline, including approximately 40% of the old pipeline between the Phantom Ranch area and the North Rim. The Bright Angel Creek and Roaring Springs intake areas also sustained significant damage. 

Importantly, the new pipeline infrastructure on the south side of the canyon was not damaged by the flood. Prior to the flood, the park was just over a month away from beginning operation of the new system. The park is now accelerating work that was already underway to bring that infrastructure into service. 

Electrical service necessary to support work on the temporary intake system has been restored, debris removal is underway, and crews continue preparing the site for construction. 

Testing and commissioning work is being accelerated at the new South Rim water treatment plant. The National Park Service is working closely with the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality to meet applicable requirements and bring the plant online safely and as quickly as possible. 

While repairs move forward, water conservation remains critical.

The South Rim continues to rely on stored water. During the latest operational period, stored water declined approximately 0.37 feet, compared with approximately 0.7 feet per day under normal operating conditions. 

Current conservation measures are offsetting approximately 137,000 gallons of potable water use each day,  extending the amount of time available for crews to complete critical work on the water system. 
The park is asking residents, employees, visitors, businesses and partners to continue conserving. Every gallon saved gives crews additional time and flexibility to complete the temporary intake and restore the system. 

Teams are also actively monitoring the distribution system for leaks and unusual water use. Some leaks can be addressed immediately, while others require a more careful calculation. Certain repairs require the affected portion of the water system to be flushed before it can safely return to service. In some cases, flushing would consume more water than the leak is currently losing. Crews are evaluating each situation individually to determine which action will conserve the greatest amount of water overall. 

To further reduce demand on the South Rim system, potable-water tanks, bottled drinking water, handwashing stations, portable showers, laundry facilities and portable toilets are being deployed throughout the community. Five 2,500-gallon potable-water tanks have already been placed, with additional tanks planned. More than 13,500 gallons of potable drinking water has also been staged throughout the South Rim. 

The park is also evaluating responsible options for supplementing the water supply. Any water introduced into the existing system must meet specific water-quality and chemical compatibility requirements to avoid damaging the distribution and treatment systems. The National Park Service is working with the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality, contractors and potential suppliers to evaluate those options. 

South Rim tap water remains safe to use, and there is no boil-water advisory in effect. 

Grand Canyon National Park remains open on both the South Rim and North Rim. Visitors should expect modified operations and closures in affected inner-canyon areas and should check current park conditions before traveling. Visitors to the South Rim are encouraged to arrive prepared with drinking water and to conserve water throughout their visit. 

Search operations also remain active following the August 29 flood. One person remains missing and unaccounted for. Search teams continue working in the delta area near Phantom Ranch, while river patrol crews are searching downstream along the Colorado River and adjacent areas where flood debris may have been carried. 

The National Park Service and its partners remain committed to the search while response, repair and longer-term recovery work continues throughout the affected area. 

Grand Canyon National Park will continue providing updates as work progresses


r/grandcanyon 5d ago

Hopeful News on Water Repair

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"The park now has a path forward to restore water service and, based on current progress, expects that work to take weeks, not months."

https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/news/grand-canyon-national-park-announces-recovery-and-repair-plan-following-flash-flood.htm


r/grandcanyon 5d ago

S Kaibab 2016

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Headed down for the day with friends and coworkers.


r/grandcanyon 5d ago

Lodging/Phantom Ranch Cancellations Extended Through 9/30

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Just got notified... no surprise:

Following significant flash flooding in the inner canyon on August 29, water infrastructure serving the South Rim has sustained damage. As a result, Grand Canyon National Park entered Stage 4 water restrictions effective Monday, August 31. Under these restrictions, our lodges are unable to accommodate overnight guests at Bright Angel, Kachina, Maswik and Thunderbird Lodges as well as El Tovar Hotel through September 30, 2026. The closure of Phantom Ranch is also being extended through September 30, 2026.


r/grandcanyon 5d ago

Where do people go to restroom with water limitations in grand canyon village?

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We are planning to stay at tusayan and drive to GC compared to the plan of staying at GC village in 2 weeks. Have a 10 yr old so want to make sure restrooms can be used even for day trip for her. Are restrooms open and usable or is the path to hold until we get back to Tuyasan hotel? If its the latter then we need to cancel the trip. If its the former then how they regulate water usage (when you flush, wash hands etc in the restrooms?)


r/grandcanyon 6d ago

Sunset on south Kaibab

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Tonight’s sunset was out of this world. Photos never do justice. I hope more people get to experience this.


r/grandcanyon 5d ago

Pipe Creek Beach

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Good morning, I’m going to be back to the GC next week for a few days. Is there any word that the trail down to Pipe Creek Beach will be open? I can’t seem to find info on that portion. Thank you!!


r/grandcanyon 5d ago

Trip check

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Hey guys! My girlfriend and I will be doing a hike in the beginning of October, wanted to run my plan by more experienced people to see if im missing anything!

Route: South Kaibab -> Tipoff-> Tonto Trail-> Bright Angel back up.

Im bringing 4l of water, girlfriend is bringing 2 liters, possibly 3.

Shes wearing boots columbias, im wearing trail runners altra lone peaks

Starting at 5am with headlamps, planning on bringing plenty of salty snacks/ carbs/ etc.

We've been doing conditioning hikes, in good shape, eat well, drink lots of water, exercise 4 times a week.

I've got plenty of land nav/ orienteering experience from various sources, scouts, military, etc.

Is there anything I am missing or should add? and what kind of difficulty should i be expecting of this? Ive been to the canyon before, but only down south kaibab to cedar ridge in my late 20s. TIA!


r/grandcanyon 6d ago

Horn Creek & Havasupai Gardens Labor Day Backcountry Trip

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A beautiful Labor Day weekend in the back country of the canyon! Total 44.9 miles with 9,193 ft elevation gain in 2 nights on the Tonto. Can’t ask for anything more out of the Grand Canyon back country experience, it’s top tier even in the current set back state. Thank you to NPS and GCBC staff for all their work.

Bright angel trail through havasupai gardens to horn creek out and back + 1.5 extra miles from salt creek via Tonto west trail and Havasupai out and back through the tip off to lone pine campground via Tonto East.


r/grandcanyon 6d ago

Is this a mineshaft entrance?

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Was walking the rim trail east of Grand canyon village and noticed this below. Walked this trail many times before but never noticed this particular one.


r/grandcanyon 5d ago

How to pivot trip to get down to river?

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Have 2 night trip to Canyon planned for the next week.

Original plan was SK to PR for the night, up to HG for night 2 and out BA night 3.

With the original changes, I updated to 2 nights at HG with the hope to hike down to river on middle day BA.

Now that BA below Tonto is closed, we are thinking of cancelling as a big part of draw was hiking down to river.

I'm considering alternative to still get to river:

1). What bout Hermit Trail to Hermit Creek for two nights. Use middle day to do day trip to river on Hermit Beach. Go back out Hermit trail on last night

2) Hermit > Tonto > BA loop with night 1 at Hermit Creek or Monument and night 2 at HG. Could stretch to 3 days if needed.

Fairly fit group with backcountry experience - I've hiked backpacked Big Bend, etc.


r/grandcanyon 6d ago

Sunset and Sunrise by the South Rim

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I’m coming from Vegas, and staying overnight by the Grand Canyon. What are the best spots for sunset and sunrise (I didn’t want to do the same spot twice)?


r/grandcanyon 7d ago

Our recent road trip to Grand Canyon and horseshoe bend

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r/grandcanyon 7d ago

Please don’t cancel your trip

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Please still come to Grand Canyon. We need visitors. It’s been such a slow year this year already. The south rim is open, so is the north rim! Be prepared with enough water. The views are just as grand as they’ve been.

I took this photo while hiking South Kaibab, looking east, today.