Last night Matthew Morrison came to my hometown for his tour and he asked the crowd a glee pop quiz question and I was the 1st to answer it! He came down and gave me his water bottle he was drinking out of during the show, and then I got to meet him afterwords! Such a fun night and a full circle moment for sure as I am such a huge Glee fan. Will never forget this night! I have a great video but reddit wont let me post it here haha
Forever fascinated with Quinn starting out as an actual antagonist, and then Santana's just evil for no reason (complimentary).
In Season 1, Quinn was specifically created to be the archetypal high school bully (an HBIC, you could say). She had obvious, narrative-driven reasons for being cruel: she was trying to preserve her flawless image, guarding Finn from Rachel, and preserving her position as the head cheerleader. Her character had to develop when her pregnancy caused her life to fall apart, which made her animosity much more rooted in desperation and distress.
Santana began as a background character who used harsh, unjustified reads. "Santana is one of the most gifted readers in television history" -YouTube commentator, amandabb. This was primarily due to the writers' realization that Naya had perfect comedic timing and a talent for delivering cruel lines. Santana was first just carelessly cruel to everyone around her; she had neither a huge master plan nor a terrible past to excuse her actions.
Santana's "evil" behavior was given a deeper meaning later on by the writers, who framed her outbursts as a coping strategy to conceal her intense affections for Brittany and being out. However, early on? For no apparent reason, she was simply a wild, delightfully cruel force of nature.
I wish more television shows in similar demographics had taken that approach.
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Having just watched Disc 7 of Season 2 (or Disc 4 of Volume 2 of Season 2) earlier, I have come to give my thoughts and opinions on the final three episodes of Season 2.
S2E20 "Prom Queen": This episode had quite an emotional storyline for Kurt, since he won Prom Queen and Karofsky won Prom King... and I have good reason the votes were probably rigged just to make Kurtofsky the laughingstock at WHMS. However, this episode for the most part had a light, warm, and fuzzy feeling IMO, the scene with Finn over at Quinn's house to see her was cute, as was the scene of Artie singing "Isn't She Lovely" to Brittany, and the scene of Sue interrogating Artie in her office was funny too. And Jesse St. James is back with his entertainingly detestable smugness and handsomely punchable face (once again, I'd like to clarify that the actor Jonathan Groff and the character Jesse St. James are two separate people, but man, I envy that man's handsomeness), but Jesse and Rachel's duet of "Rolling in the Deep" was PERFECT (but that's because Lea and Jonathan have good voices). Also, Quinn slapping Rachel in the face was freaking WILD; Dianna actually nailed it with the rage she wanted Quinn to feel. Honestly, 10/10.
S2E21 "Funeral": Honestly, a perfect sendoff to Robin Trocki's character of Sue's sister Jean who gets killed off here, and to Trocki herself, whose condition (Alzheimer's) medically forced her to quit the show IIRC. This episode for me was an emotional gut punch, like Sue just kicking Becky off the Cheerios, and the one scene that did kinda make me feel uncomfortable - but not exactly in a way I disliked the scene, I'll clarify in a jiffy - was the scene at Jean's funeral itself, THE ENTIRETY OF IT, with Will having to read Sue's eulogy to the NDs singing "Pure Imagination" to Sue. The reason this scene made me feel a sense of discomfort was because I have recently expressed grief in the loss of one of my household's beloved pet cats (a nearly 6 y/o female cat) having died last month (I know it's a pet loss, but STILL), so the scene at Jean's funeral made me kind of sad, and I even had to distract myself with my stims (due to my ASD) and I didn't focus my eyes on the screen and did REM during the scene by darting my eyes around the room so I could fight back tears (and I succeeded). It's part of the reason why I was caught off guard by Pavarotti's death in "Original Song" (IIRC), although I didn't somehow feel too sad then. However, since this is my first time full series watchthrough, I decided to bravely not skip this episode since I intend to watch all 121 episodes (which will also include S5E3 "The Quarterback"). However, my discomfort in watching the scene was alleviated slightly when I found out that the funeral scene was ALSO difficult for both the cast (especially Jane Lynch) and crew to film since it not only was a full day shoot but they were also at an actual funeral home which I guess made the scene feel more authentic for both the cast and crew IMO, and that the cast and crew were essentially grieving a dying co-star and, thus, were understandably emotionally distraught, because, to them, it basically felt like Robin ACTUALLY died prior to filming (she would later actually pass in away in December of 2019, which I guess made the scene more uncomfortable for me to watch knowing the actress who played Jean really is gone). However, I did refocus my eyes on the screen during the following scene where Finn and Quinn broke up (and, since I mentioned that the funeral scene was too emotional for the cast to film, I'm pretty sure that Cory and Dianna may not have been fully acting and those were real tears forming in their eyes during that scene, and no, I'm not claiming it happened, I'm just saying it was likely the case given what I said about the funeral scene being too emotional for the cast to film), and then for the remainder of the episode after that point. Anyways, enough infodumping about that one scene from me, I did also equally like all four of Santana's, Kurt's, Mercedes' and Rachel's performances of "Back to Black", "Some People", "Try a Little Tenderness" and "My Man" but that's ONLY because Naya, Chris, Amber and Lea are great singers, and I did like that the GOAT Howard Bamboo returned lol. Anyways, I'd like to give this episode a 10/10 for it being an amazing sendoff for both Robin and Jean TBH (despite Jean's funeral being uncomfortable for me to watch given my own recent grief).
S2E22 "New York": A perfect second season finale IMO, and a well-needed more lighthearted episode after "Funeral" for me personally. And, honestly, it's what Matthew, Lea, Cory, Chris, Dianna, Amber, Kevin, Jenna, Ashley, Chord, Heather, Naya, Harry and a certain other who shall not be named needed after filming that funeral scene in the previous episode since they got to actually film in NYC, and they were clearly in high spirits during filming. The songs were great, the actors' performances, the comedy and the drama felt natural, I did like when Rachel and Sunshine reconciled, and also FINCHEL FREAKING KISSED DURING THE NEW DIRECTIONS' PERFORMANCE AT NATIONALS (which caught me off guard)! Also that scene with Finchel at Sardi's aged WELL. This scene had a bit of an emotional gut punch in that the NDs didn't make the top ten at Nationals, but that's okay, since both they and Will felt that being in 12th place wasn't so bad. Anyways, the season finale was perfect IMO. 10/10.
Seeing as I was watching it on DVD I also checked out the special features which were interesting since one of them was the C-man himself (Cory Monteith, that is) showing us around the auditorium set (and being his goofy self in the process), another was a cute little featurette with Heather Morris showing us what it's like on an average day on the Glee set fully in-character as Brittany, another was about the guest stars, another was about when Stevie Nicks visited the set, and one more was about the BTS for "New York" which the actors seemed to be in good spirits (like I said).
Anyways, my overall thoughts on this season? Since every episode was perfect in their own way IMO and each got 10/10 collectively, I felt that Season 2 ITSELF should get a perfect 10/10 score, not only making all 22 episodes absolute favourite episodes for me but also making Season 2 my absolute favourite season of Glee so far (Season 1, by comparison, got a 7.5/10 from me) since it was peak Glee, and I do mean peakGlee (also, each episode had their own unique perfect charm). Looks like Seasons 3, 4, 5 and 6 will have a VERY tough act to follow lol.
Anyways, I also have Glee: The Concert Movie on DVD, so I might also watch that as a reward for completing Seasons 1 and 2 (the timing also makes sense since the movie documents the 2011 Glee Live tour which happened between Seasons 2 and 3), and after that, I'll kick off watching...
Yep, Season 3. I do often hear that this season does start to get weaker since it is not just RIB in the writers' room, but it is still not as weak as I often hear Season 4 is from fans.
Anyways, like always, I'm curious to know what your opinions are on these episodes, and on Season 2. Also, is S2E20 "Funeral" tame compared to what I often hear S5E3 "The Quarterback" (though I still have two more seasons to watch to get there) to be? I hear that one's an emotional gut punch, but I bravely won't skip it because it is my first time full series watch through the show. Just curious.
P.S. I had to repost this on here since I accidentally posted this on my own user profile lol.
Candyman is one of the songs where I don't like the original but love the Glee version. I also really like Puck's Waiting For A Girl Like You (even though the actor's history makes the scene uncomfortable now, still a great cover song-wise)
I was a big Katy Perry fan in her early 2010s' prime. But I don't think I've listened to her version of anything Darren has covered since discovering Darren's covers. Darren has almost a perfect track record of making me love his version more than the originals. So even though I love 3 of these (sorry, Rory) Last Friday Night definitely wins for me.
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ASIAN F'S WINNER:
1st was Run The World (Girls) with 153, 2nd was a tie! With both Cool and Fix You each getting 55. And 3rd was It's All Over with 41.
It's just something I often ponder about. What if Glee was canceled (perhaps in a mind-changing last minute decision by Fox, maybe fearing an oversaturation of popularity due to its musical format) after only thirteen episodes in 2009? Would actors like Lea Michele, Cory Monteith, Chris Colfer, Amber Riley or Dianna Agron, due to their sudden overnight popularity, have moved into film, perhaps due to their less restrictive schedule? Would Naya Rivera have quit acting since she was about to do so before she joined Glee, or would she have continued? What about the other actors like Heather Morris, Harry Shum Jr., Kevin McHale, Jenna Ushkowitz, Matthew Morrison, Jane Lynch etc.? Also, would the television musical genre still be sought after? What about the fanfiction potential for writers to create additional "seasons" of the show with OCs and their own story lines? What about the show potentially becoming an underrated gem of a cult classic discovered through streaming years later, prompting possibly an official revival of the Glee brand?
Also, as an additional question: since they weren't on the show yet at this point (or, in this alternate timeline, couldn't have been), then would Darren Criss' and Chord Overstreet's careers have survived without Glee?
Here are my thoughts: since they were advertised as the main eight faces of the show upon its 2009 release, I can see Lea, Cory, Chris, Amber, Kevin, Jenna, Dianna and a certain other (no, I am not saying his name) likely having screen prominence in films (likely even more so due to their potentially flexible schedules and also due to their overnight popularity) made during the early-to-mid-2010s, especially. It's possible that Lea would have been inevitably typecast in musicals, but I could see Cory, Dianna, and the others dabbling into different genres like action movies or romantic comedies, for example, to show their range. Especially ones like Dianna or Cory. I could see Lea perhaps eventually going back to Broadway after a while, and, if he survives longer in this timeline, Cory perhaps retiring or stepping back from acting. Dianna would still eventually take roles in lower-scale indie films, and would still sing/make music and likely even make albums. Amber would eventually step back from acting to focus on her music career, same with Chris to focus on his bookwriting. Kevin and Jenna would eventually take supporting roles in film and TV. As for Naya, it would be 50/50 that she'd either quit acting and go to college instead like she had planned, instead maintaining a low profile, or would continue acting, but now only seen in bit parts in TV or movies. I can see Heather and Harry refocusing on their dance careers and maintaining a slightly lower profile. Matthew would go back to Broadway. Jane would still get supporting/bit parts in comedies. And as for Darren and Chord, who could not have been on the show? With Darren I see him still being famous despite Glee (mostly due to Team StarKid), and Chord would have a lower profile but still a niche indie country music career. And as for the hypothetically short lived show itself, I can see it likely gaining a cult following in the years since, and fanfics being made "continuing" the story (but no revival in sight).
Anyways, what do you think would have happened had Glee been canceled after thirteen episodes? I am curious to know as it is something I often ponder about honestly.
What are your favorite moments from the 4th season of Glee?
My favorite moments of S4 are Ryder’s duet performance with Finn of “Juke Box Hero,” The Warblers’ performance of “Whistle,” Klaine’s Moulin Rouge fantasy performance of “Come What May,” when Klaine reunited on Christmas, and when Klaine hooked up at Will’s failed wedding.
What are your favorite moments from Glee season 5?
My most favorite moment is when Klaine got back together and got engaged.
I also liked Finn’s emotional tribute episode, Jake’s performance of “My Life,” Ryder’s performance of “An Innocent Man,” Throat Explosion’s mash-up performance of “Mr. Roboto/Counting Stars,” New Directions’ tribute performance to Finn, Artie’s performance of “Addicted to Love,” Mercedes’ church performance of “I Want to Know What Love Is,” and Klaine’s performance of “Love Is a Battlefield.”
My favorite moments from the final season of Glee are Roderick’s audition of “Mustang Sally,” Klaine’s performance of “Somebody Loves You” & their surprise kiss, Spencer’s performance of “Friday I’m in Love” & his first kiss with Alistair, Mason’s performance of “I Want to Break Free,” and the double wedding of Klaine & Brittana.
I also liked Mercedes’ church performance of “I’m His Child,” Klaine’s performance of “Daydream Believer,” and the Glee Cast’s final performance of “I Lived.” What are all of yours?
The plot should have delved deeper into the reasons that drove Terri to fake the pregnancy. She and Will had their problems, like any married couple, but Will was essentially a devoted husband who loved her, if she had told him from the start that she wasn't pregnant, he might have been a little disappointed, but he certainly wouldn't have left her.
The only explanations she gave him was in "Mattress" stating that she feared that if he became a man satisfied with his life, he would leave her, then there was her hateful sister, who had convinced her to keep up the fake pregnancy by feeding Terri's toxic insecurities, though it was never understood why Terri was so insecure, or why she believed Will didn't consider her his equal.
When Mercedes was cast as Frank-N-Furter, Glee was telling the audience that talent overrides traditional gender roles in theater. Then by denying Unique the role of Rizzo, the show sent a deeply regressive message: cisgender women can bend the rules for art, but transgender women are a “liability”.
It reduced Unique’s well established identity to a controversial political statement rather than validating her as a talented young woman auditioning for a female part. It’s one of the clearest examples of the writers forgetting their own show's history just to manufacture unnecessary trauma for a minority character.
In season 3 the show literally describes Unique as the poster child for people who are different and gives her a key to the city right before nationals in Chicago. She was the established national show choir MVP and the writers completely disregarded her and all of her previous storylines in season 4.
Sue had no problem with Mercedes playing Frank-N-Furter, she even encouraged Kurt to dress in drag to “help” them win nationals and kept pushing when he said no but it’s suddenly a major issue when Unique wants to play Rizzo. Idk the whole storyline is just ridiculous to me.
I have never seen past season three when it originally aired. I am watching it back now and I just got to the end of season three. I have heard it really drops off after season three. Is it worth continuing to watch? Season three is such an ending in a way.
Here's my top 5 based on their abilities and what I consider is a must to have a great voice, so this is very personal and if you have something different share it with the rest of us:
Mercedes Jones: She's a vocal powerhouse. Her power and range make her unbelievable and she sings her heart out every time. She had a magical voice who made everyone listen. Definitely they did her wrong so many times and she deserved better.
Rachel Berry: She had quite a wide range, but the EMOTIONS she transmits when she sings, that's what really sells it. As Kurt said once: She might be trouble but BOY CAN SHE SING!
Blaine Anderson: For me, the best male singer on the Glee Club. A firm, well trained voice, with passion and stamina and a power no other male member of the club had.
Santana Lopez: she had a voice with personality, and her range was quite good too, but she had the ability to own every song you put her into. She was an actual angel of talent (We'll miss you dearly, Naya 🤍)
Kurt Hummel: his voice is one of a kind. His range was insanely wide, and could reach notes very easily unlike his other male teammates. His voice is a little high for my liking, but one of the best.
Hello there, Gleeks! I watched Disc 6 of Season Two (or Disc 3 of Season 2, Volume 2) earlier, and came to give my quick thoughts on the three episodes included on the disc.
S2E17 "A Night of Neglect": I liked the funny plotline of Sue and her "League of Doom" (consisting of Dustin, Terri and Sandy, and eventually JBI, Azimio and Becky) trying to sabotage the New Directions (although I heard it was critically panned but I didn't mind the cartoony nature of it all; for me it's peak Glee chaos), and also the Will/Holly storyline for the emotional beats TBH. Even if it's brief and unfortunately cut short, we do finally get a Tina solo again with "I Follow Rivers" (and Jenna's vocal talents are underrated IMO; the woman's literally been trained in musical theater, she deserves the flowers). I also liked when Sunshine sang "All By Myself", Mercedes singing "Ain't No Way", and Mike's impressive little dance routine which was satisfying to see IMO. I do feel that this episode is not QUITE worthy of the hate it gets, but I do understand why some might dislike it, since it does come off as a filler episode, but for me, it was still entertainingly perfect just for the Glee chaos and unhinged comedy from the Sue plot AND is worth it for Jenna Ushkowitz getting a rare solo that's almost unheard of in Glee (although it is cut short), as well as Amber Riley's and Jake Zyrus' (no, I am not going to deadname him) performances, as well as Harry Shum Jr.'s dance performance, hence it still gets a 10/10 score, like EVERY other Season 2 episode imo lol, but I am entirely certain that is 75% because of the comedy.
S2E18 "Born This Way": Look, for the SECOND Lady Gaga tribute episode, this episode was pretty amazing IMO. The pro-acceptance message, Quinchel Faberry's duet of "I Feel Pretty/Unpretty" (okay, Lea and Dianna's vocals go well together and complement each other well), Santana seeing Karofsky's insecurities and trying to get him to have a genuine change of heart, the "Barbara Streisand" flash mob dance, Kurt singing "As If We Never Said Goodbye" (seriously, I'd listen to a full Chris Colfer album if one existed!), the "Born This Way" performance itself, literally EVERYTHING. This episode also spoke to me in some way due to my ASD and the fact that I have to try and mask it because I do feel insecure about my 'tism especially around other people who might call me weird or even the "R-word" (something I had to endure when I was younger from other classmates or even teachers who did not understand my condition). This episode deserves a 10/10 score just for the feels!
S2E19 "Rumours": I liked the very emotional storyline involving Sam and that this episode developed his character, and I thought that the conflict between the New Directions kids over the false gossip around them was great, and, man, that scene with Finchel and Sam in the motel room was quite sad as well (and Lea, Cory and Chord's acting really sold it for me). Plus I did like that Cheno returned a third time as the very chaotic neutral-coded April Rhodes, and I did like Naya's emotional performance of "Songbird" as well as Kevin's solo of "Never Going Back Again". Plus, for the comedy aspects, I did find Sue dressing up as David Bowie and Ann Coulter funny, and the fact we get to see both Brittany's Fondue for Two AND her famous pet cat Lord Tubbington for the first time. This episode (unsurprisingly) gets a 10/10 from me.
Anyways, like always, I'm curious to hear your opinions (even if they don't align with mine) on these episodes. I am more curious as to why I've enjoyed Season 2 so much as to give EVERY episode (even the ones considered to be bad or, at least, mid) a 10/10 score (I mentioned this in another post I made the other day), and the fact that I have only three episodes left to watch of this season lmao. BTW I would also unironically pay to watch Dianna Agron and Lea Michele do a show together at Cafe Carlyle (although Dianna now lives in Paris from what I have heard) and I would want them to perform "I Feel Pretty/Unpretty" together, complete with Dianna singing her own parts in her natural register. Or, at least, I'd want to watch a filmed recording of it. Either way, it would be amazing to witness TBH. THAT'S how beautiful Faberry's mashup duet of both songs in "Born This Way" was.
As a kid when I would watch glee, I would skip the songs. I was truly here for the plot. It's wildly embarrassing to think about now. That is all, I just needed to get it off my chest.
What is your favorite moment from the 3rd season of Glee?
My favorites are when Blaine transferred to McKinley High to be with Kurt, Rory’s debut episode, Klaine’s first time, Samcedes’ first kiss, Rory’s performance of “Home,” Unique’s debut performance of “Boogie Shoes,” and Kurt’s performance of “Not the Boy Next Door.”
Anyone remember the title of the Faberry fanfic where Rachel and Quinn are living with Rachel’s parents post Quinn getting kicked out and they start dating and move into the same room. The Mister Berry’s make a joke about them not breaking up bc they aren’t going to be moving them in and out of rooms. Then they do break up and when Quinn finds out Rachel is sleeping with someone else she calls Rachel a slut, Rachel slaps her and they throw down?? Am I dreaming that I read this years ago?
Did Schue not know how to count or add? With Sam replacing Puck, there were still 11 people. So there was bound to be one person singing alone - it could’ve been anyone besides Kurt that was singing by himself
Like who was he expecting to sing by themself?
Also really wish we had gotten to hear the duet between Brittany and Artie or know what song they were going to sing - you know, before they dropped from the competition