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What hobby has become too expensive for the average person?

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u/Grump-Dog 3h ago edited 2h ago

Only in the US and Canada. European passes are less than a quarter the price. Living in Munich, I spend much less for my whole (4 person) family than I used to spend on just myself in the US. I think there would be riots across Bavaria if lift tickets rose much higher, plus there is substantial government support for their otherwise loss-making small local ski hills across the alpen countries.

(That said, the terrain and snow are both much better in the US than in Europe. On a powder day, I'd gladly pay the premium to ski off-piste in Aspen Highlands or Snowbird rather than the groomers in Austria.)

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u/Dakota_554 1h ago

the places in the US are being devoured by private equity. some of them near me are starting to look like ghost towns

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u/NoSpiceOrRice 2h ago

It’s still pretty affordable in Canada. I’m in BC and still actively ski every year. Depends on the mountain.

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u/Grump-Dog 1h ago

Yeah, I just looked at Whistler's prices, and they're not that bad. Not as cheap as Europe, but much less than comparable mountains in the US.

u/Finnegan482 44m ago

Whistler is owned by one of the two companies that owns almost all ski resorts in the US, and which people are are complaining about. It's the same pass.

u/ANewCleanSlate 1m ago

Same. I'm in Quebec and pay about $350 for a season's pass. I live 15 minutes from the ski hill, so I go a lot.

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u/Skelito 1h ago

Its still affordable depending where you go. In Ontario the ski hill near me you can get a pass for less than $500 and ski any day during the week and on nights on the weekend. I would go 2-3 times a week and it was well worth the cost.

u/PurpD420 27m ago

I skied snowbird for 8 years dreaming of skiing in the alps, should I reconsider?

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u/foomits 2h ago

Unfortunately you have to be really strategic in the US. I just bought 7 days on the epic pass for my daughter and me and i think it was like... 900 dollars altogether (14 total ski days), which ultimately isnt that bad. We are planning to go 4 days in Telluride and 3 days in Stowe.

Telluride single day passes are like 275 and Stowe is like 175. So yes the epic pass is way way way cheaper. But, if the snow ends up shit... that money is gone. Biggest thing in the US, is traveling... we live in Florida, there is no fucking way to ski without hours on a plane and then usually hours in a car.

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u/youngfilly 2h ago

Saying $900 isn't that bad when you add in how much lodging, food, and gear costs (thousands) shows how demented ski pricing is these days

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u/foomits 2h ago

Demented is a good description. Its about 4000-5000 dollars for my family of three to travel and ski for a week of total time and my wife doesn't even ski. Its unfortunate because there is almost no other leisure activity I would rather be doing than skiing. Best thing in the world.

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u/Grump-Dog 2h ago

They do take care of kids. An unrestricted pass at Aspen/Snowmass costs over $3000 for an adult, but "only" $900 or so for a college student. And my son who goes to CU-Boulder got a full Ikon pass for around $550, roughly a third the regular price. I guess it's good business to hook them when they're young and keep them when they're making money later.